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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
Don't think there isn't some small part of The Mark* that thinks he could still get back on television if only the right people were running a national wrestling company. Why else would he deign to grace a site like WrestleZone? He's gotta keep his name out there. Hell, it worked for Lagana!

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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.47
What ideas has Hogan even brought to wrestling in the last 15 years and does he even have any credibility with any wrestlers under the age of 40? I'm seriously asking, because other than his nWo turn and his reteaming with Vince I don't know of a single thing. You would think Spike's target audience would most likely associate the Hogan name with failure.

Also if they actually wanted their own company and have it be a bridge with whatever MMA they are doing then why not call up Paul Heyman who has some idea about both, has better wrestling connections, and a better pulse on that demographic.

I'm not even sure if the chuckle I'd get out of Dixie getting hosed by some oldschool carnies is worth a Hogan led promotion.

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.54
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    What ideas has Hogan even brought to wrestling in the last 15 years and does he even have any credibility with any wrestlers under the age of 40? I'm seriously asking, because other than his nWo turn and his reteaming with Vince I don't know of a single thing. You would think Spike's target audience would most likely associate the Hogan name with failure.


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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
      What ideas has Hogan even brought to wrestling in the last 15 years and does he even have any credibility with any wrestlers under the age of 40? I'm seriously asking, because other than his nWo turn and his reteaming with Vince I don't know of a single thing. You would think Spike's target audience would most likely associate the Hogan name with failure.


    The goofy manchild sidekick! Hillbilly Jim, Evad, hero-worshiping Abyss.
Don't forget about The Renegade, who was more the future of wrestling like Garrett Bischoff. Zack Gowen was another Hogan sidekick.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.88
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    What ideas has Hogan even brought to wrestling in the last 15 years and does he even have any credibility with any wrestlers under the age of 40? I'm seriously asking, because other than his nWo turn and his reteaming with Vince I don't know of a single thing. You would think Spike's target audience would most likely associate the Hogan name with failure.



At least he's probably come up with more ideas then Bischoff. Bischoff can't even take credit for the NWO angle - he just stole that from Japan.

The biggest thing Bischoff has come up with was the Glacier angle.
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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.93
In a way, I want to see Dixie get screwed over by Hogan and Bischoff just for the insanity of them actually using a wrestling angle in real life. That and Dixie is a dumbass that deserves it.

However, I think a Hogan/Bischoff company would make TNA look like 1998 WWF. Hogan has all of the stupid biases that Vince has, with none of the creativity or business know-how.

Could somebody get Steve Austin on the phone?
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
    Originally posted by wannaberockstar
      Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
      What ideas has Hogan even brought to wrestling in the last 15 years and does he even have any credibility with any wrestlers under the age of 40? I'm seriously asking, because other than his nWo turn and his reteaming with Vince I don't know of a single thing. You would think Spike's target audience would most likely associate the Hogan name with failure.



    At least he's probably come up with more ideas then Bischoff. Bischoff can't even take credit for the NWO angle - he just stole that from Japan.

    The biggest thing Bischoff has come up with was the Glacier angle.
Bischoff also brought in all he uber talented cruiserweights in 95-96 too bad he didn't push them to the top eventually. He turned Goldberg into a megastar before allowing Nash and Hogan to fuck it all up.

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If you actually sit and listen to Hogan talk about wrestling, the man truly has a creative mind for the business. Unfortunately, he needs a filter to put those out-dated ideas into modern reality. I truly believe that he deserves a "legends" role in WWE because that is where he deserves to be and where he belongs.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.93
    Originally posted by RecklessEric
    If you actually sit and listen to Hogan talk about wrestling, the man truly has a creative mind for the business. Unfortunately, he needs a filter to put those out-dated ideas into modern reality. I truly believe that he deserves a "legends" role in WWE because that is where he deserves to be and where he belongs.


Hogan is like an idiot savante with wrestling. He is brilliant in some areas, but he has no idea how to deal with anything that is outside of his narrow view of what wrestling is. He is a lot like Vince, but Vince isn't nearly as bad.
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.79
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Especially when [Bischoff] hitches his wagon to the Hogan name, and especially when he can point to one period of time when he succeeded big to people who don't necessarily understand why.
    But doesnt anyone ever ask what the hell happened between 1998-2012?? Not that he was running wrestling companies that whole time, but still.


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    The minute that we lost control and the brand shift occurred in July or August of 1998, that mandate, and then shortly thereafter we got Standards & Practices coming in and micromanaging the process. I had budgets that had been previously set the year before, mind you, the year before, were slashed in the middle of the year. All of a sudden now we couldn't promote the way we were promoting. We couldn't advertise the way we were advertising. We had to cut back on all of our production. Oh, by the way, we had to produce another two hour series for TBS. When those kinds of things started happening, that was the beginning of the end of WCW.

    The only thing that I could have done, in my opinion - and again this is really 20/20 hindsight, because believe me my DNA, none of my thought processes would have allowed me to even consider doing this at the time - but knowing now what I wish I would have known then, I would have embraced certain people corporately that I could have embraced. But instead I chose to fight those people because they were the very people who were forcing me to change things that were working.

    The goal, by the way, going back, back then all of the corporate executives - and this is true, well, not as much today as a result of the economic things going on - but back then everything was about stock options, everything was about the stock market, because all of these top executives were making millions of dollars off of their stock options. That was first and foremost their primary concern.

    Now, they were able to kind of clothe that, if you will, in the idea of fiduciary responsibility, and we need a 20 percent EPITA, and all that kind of stuff, all of those things weren't designed for the strength of the business, they were designed for the strength of the financial statements that enhanced their financial positions personally because if they reached a certain level of profitability, they made an extra two million dollars in stock options that year. So for me, when back again in July, August 1998, when I was being forced to change the structure of my company, the way I operated, the way the program played out on television, budgets that had been previously established the year before that I was still living under and well within in most circumstances were being slashed from underneath me, yet we were asked to product more programming. All of those things weren't designed to enhance WCW, but they were designed to enhance individual stock options and end-of-year bonuses.


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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
That guy talks in circles more than I do.
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