Originally posted by Doc_whiskeyI wonder if this is Lucas's way of putting the property in the hands of people he trusts. He isn't getting any younger.
Lucas has put Kathleen Kennedy in charge of Lucasfilm. (In much the same way that Kevin Feige is in charge of Marvel films.)
This is very good news. She is a smart woman.
Also, it was Marvel's decision to hire Joss Whedon not Disney's and that worked out very well for them. Disney's plan with Pixar, Marvel, The Muppets and now Lucasfilm seems to be to let those units make their own creative decisions and that plan seems to be working quite well based on box office results.
I'm too lazy to find it, but someone at Lucasfilms has already said the new films will not have anything to do with the expanded universe. No Thrawn, no Rogue Squad, no Dark Empire. None of that, all original content taking place after Return of The Jedi.
I can actually see this as being a good thing, mostly because of how much I loved Tron Legacy. Someone at Disney had the balls to throw over $100 million dollars to people to make a sequel to what, for decades, was considered their biggest flop. Not only did they make this movie, but it was respectful of it's predecessor and it didn't have the Disney kid friendly stench to it. And it was really, really good.
If they can do this with Tron, and the way they've handled Marvel and The Muppets... Star Wars under Disney has the potential to be great.
Also, all these years, Disney has been trying to get the young male demographic to like their films, but it's always about females as the lead characters with princesses and shit. Finally, in the last couple of years, they've just bought characters that boys can get into, like Marvel Comics and now Star Wars. Very smart business sense.
I am a little worried for Dark Horse Comics. When Disney bought Marvel, they transferred all the Disney comics to Marvel. They will probably do the same with Star Wars. If I were in charge, I'd consider just buying out Dark Horse and making it a Marvel imprint. Bah! Too early to be thinking about that just yet.
There's no way humanly possible everyone is going to be happy regardless of if Lucas kept it, sold it to Disney, etc. That's the beauty of the Star Wars series & why people are so passionate about it ... it's a part of us.
However, I will say that I am beyond happy about the possibilities. I would rather have a mediocre Episode VII made by Disney than to not have one at all. As a dad, I can't tell you how happy I am to be able to experience a whole new Star Wars trilogy with my son (who's 7 now). In fact, upon telling him the news that a new Star Wars movie would be out in 2015, his response was "what month & day?".
If Disney wanted to get as many fans as possible on board, Episode VII would start out with Boba Fett somehow crawling out of the Sarlacc pit.
Originally posted by MayhemHowever, I will say that I am beyond happy about the possibilities.
What he said. I do not see the downside. It never occurred to me Lucas would ever let go of his stranglehold over creative control of the Star Wars movies. I thought he'd have to die before he let anyone else direct or write Star Wars without his strict guiding vision. All it took was a measly four billion dollars.
Guys, other people will make Star Wars movies now. Real ones, not fan films. Whatever they become, Star Wars movies of the future are free of George Lucas' idiosyncracies and personal tastes. The potential of what could be is definitely exciting.
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Maybe it's for the best if they don't include Rogue Squadron. Then I can accept The Unifying Force as my personal end to the series (although Mercy Kill was very, very good), and don't need to throw a shit biscuit if they kill off Wedge (spoiler alert; I probably still would).
Then again, I see how some properties are handled like Avengers: EMH, the Avengers film, and Young Justice from a creative standpoint....and I want them to do that to my favorite characters.
I consider the films a fairly significant part of my childhood, but I actually wouldn't mind if Disney scrapped Episode VII, gave the series to someone who really cared about it (and who had brains and could actually write and direct), and just hit to big ole' fat reboot button on the whole shebang.
Nix all of the crappy, nonsensical stuff Lucas added while keeping the spirit and soul of the universe and create some plots that actually make sense. If done right with the right person behind it, they could really re-invent the universe for a whole new generation.
They are buying these properties and this goes for Pixar, too, because creatively they are dead. They lucked out with Pirates. Minus that, they haven't really done anything original in a long time. So, they are buying studios that have a built in fanbases to get more money, because their fanbase is pretty much gone. Epic Mikey 2 is one of the few Disney things out there. They don't do the afternoon cartoons anymore to showcase their talent. They haven't done a straight Disney film in years. However, its a great plan. It just won't shock me to see them re-cast Luke, Leia and Han, Ford would be happy about it, with Disney teen stars. If people thought Hayden's acting was wooden wait til you get a load of the kids from Wizardly Place.
It's incredible. I can't think of a single sentence in that post that I agree with, with the possible exception of, "However, it's a great plan."
Disney's releasing new animated films every year or so, and I think Tangled and Winnie the Pooh were fantastic. And I'm looking forward to seeing Wreck-It Ralph.
Disney's fanbase ain't dead, and the company's not even sick. And there's no way they cast Disney teen stars in the Star Wars roles.
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In addition to everything else listed under "Disney's not dead", how about "Phineas & Ferb"? The Mouse House is making some good money off Agent P from not only kids but also their parents who love the show and people (like me) who don't even have kids. The Tinkerbell/Pixie Hollow franchise brings in a good bit with their direct to DVD movies and merch, too. They've introduced three princesses in the last few years (Rapunzel & Tiana - both in great movies - and the kid one, Sophia, that we don't really know about yet).
Even without that or anything new, the re-releasing of movies on DVD and now for the first time on blu-ray is bringing in plenty. And worldwide in 2011, the top EIGHT theme parks attendance-wise in the world are all Disney. There is not a hint of trouble right now. Star Wars, Marvel... just MORE cashflow for Mickey.
Originally posted by lotjx They haven't done a straight Disney film in years.
The Princess and the Frog wasn't that long ago, only three years.
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All in the past three years.
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To clarify, when someone says "straight Disney film", I take it to mean one of their classic animated musicals (The Lion King, The Little Mermaid) and not one by one of their acquired studios like Pixar.
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Originally posted by andy1278In addition to everything else listed under "Disney's not dead", how about "Phineas & Ferb"? The Mouse House is making some good money off Agent P from not only kids but also their parents who love the show and people (like me) who don't even have kids.
Co-signed. I have no clue how many kids I saw walking around Disney World in the six days we were there (as well as Universal Studios, which just has to be one of the biggest dick-slaps in their face) wearing Agent P shirts. I had no clue what he was from, but Disney's license to print money appears to be in good standing.
Speaking of which...
Originally posted by andy1278And worldwide in 2011, the top EIGHT theme parks attendance-wise in the world are all Disney. There is not a hint of trouble right now. Star Wars, Marvel... just MORE cashflow for Mickey.
I'm sure they wouldn't be undertaking a major expansion to one of their flagship parks (New Fantasyland, which, from what we saw when we were down there, is going to be amazeballs) if Disney was hurting for money. Even if they were, these new additions are going to keep bringing in tons of people, as well as tons of cash.
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If "spoiler" is in the title, probably don't need to use spoiler tags too. It would be difficult to talk in this thread without spoiling the situation, leaving the entire thread filled with "highlight text to read.