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PalpatineW
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Now me being an XFL fan



HAHAHAHAHAHA





I told "Michaelangelo" that not only was their a similarity of zero between our columns, that neither one of us came up with this so called infamous "GB&U" idea, but lastly that the entire thing was written solely to fit in the joke of "time honored tradition" of wrestling ideas getting stolen (and if Vince McMahon and the nWo doesn't put an exclamation point on that, nothing does)



First off, Chief, it's "there," not "their." And secondly, stolen or not, the words "good, bad and ugly" are in both columns. Though perhaps Derek Burgan, who clearly is too cool for the internet wrestling scene, is also too cool for making sense. But who needs to make sense (or use a spell-check) when you're an INTERNET WRESTLING PERSONALITY!!!111





Now picture this. I'm from the Northeast, so maybe American History is just a little more personal up here than out in cyberspace, and maybe you may think this is petty, but I don't give a shit.



he's a dangerous mind. Like Coolio, or Jodie Foster. Truly, Mr. Burgan's struggle is much like the American fight for Independence. A modern day George Washington is this man, and not only is he SUPER KNOWLEDGEABLE and PATRIOTIC, but Derek Burgan is DANGEROUS, and doesn't care about what you think! Hot damn...





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over·re·active adj.





"Zim", you can't even imagine the amount of stupid things I had to read over the last couple of days, but your theory on "hit count" is by far and away the dumbest of them all.



Having waded through this editorial, I think we ALL have a good grasp of stupidity! Thanks, Derek Burgan!









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(edited by PalpatineW on 27.1.02 1610)
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Far be it from me to judge what CRZ puts on his own site, but I have to believe that this piece of trolling crap and threats disguised as a "message" has to be the worst thing ever on Slashwrestling.

I also love how he (derek) refused to post it on Weinerville to avoid an instant rebuttal from Guru.





(edited by CRZ on 28.1.02 1021)
pieman
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I think way too many electrons have been wasted on Derek already.



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I don't know...This all sounds like BS.

I'm not taking sides or saying anyone copied anyone, but imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Still think the whole thing is silly, though.




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Since: 28.1.02
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Originally posted by Y2Disco
I don't know...This all sounds like BS.

I'm not taking sides or saying anyone copied anyone, but imitation is the highest form of flattery.

Still think the whole thing is silly, though.


I agree, and to me, it's not as if either of them are particularly interesting writers to get worked up over anyway. I've read Michaelangelo, and it seems to be a constant stream of one-liners that aren't funny. I read that Burgan article just to see what he was talking about, and it looked like a very uninspired, incomplete recap.

Is saying that I enjoy neither guy's articles taking sides or taking my own?



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I don't have any control as to whether people like my column or not. I do what I do and I do it as well as I can. If you don't like it, you don't read it and that suits me just fine.

The situation here was not about drawing attention to me or Burgan's columns. It was one of principle. He accused me of copping his style. I asked him to retract that comment. He refused and we are where we are.

Regardless, I will comment on his retort in my column this week and that will be the last I speak on this matter so we can all get on with our lives.





Michaelangelo
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pieman
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That sounds like a good plan, Mich. Take your column to make a statement, then forget about it. High road is always better.



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DAMN, doesn't anyone take the LOW ROAD like *me*?!?!

;-) I'm joking...



OMG. Shut Up. ALL of YOU.


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Since: 23.1.02
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Originally posted by pieman
That sounds like a good plan, Mich. Take your column to make a statement, then forget about it. High road is always better.





I may be mistaken, but didn't "Michaelangelo" already use a column to "make a statement"? Isn't that what started all of this? Let me ask a better question, do you have any idea what "high road" means?

As for a person above who tried to insinuate that I posted a Guest Editorial as a way to avoid dealing with "Zim" on the message board all I can say is this: I tried twice to post a response and was quickly redirected to the main page with some sort of message telling me my post wasn't put on. I wrote a letter to CRZ asking him if I could just send a Guest Editorial so that everyone could just read what's going on and that I know a word document would make it to CRZ.

/edit: fixing table tags only.

(edited by Guru Zim on 28.1.02 1629)
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Derek - all he said was that he was going to comment on your retort and then let it drop. I think both of you ought to take the high road and be done with this already.



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Merc
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Since: 3.1.02
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#11 Posted on
How can anyone claim a "high road" here? One guy has reacted to a statement that may not ven have been referring to him. One guy has responded to that with childish taunts to a guy expressing his opinion. There is no high road to be had.

This could have all been avoided with an email in the first case simply asking if Derek was taking a shot at him, not accusing him of it and asking for a retraction. The great escalation could have been avoided if Derek could post on the weiner, heck if I can do it anyone can, and when he couldn't, avoided the holier than though crap in the "editorial".

Both guys are guilty of being a tad too self important and should stay after class and write lines.



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Since: 9.12.01
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The only limitation was the inability to post following your own last post in a forum.

He was able to edit his post the whole time.

He could have posted at any point after someone else posted in the thread. He could also have started a new thread.

The inability to post following your own post is a feature which is in place to keep people from bumping their own posts. I'm not going to take it out.



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Merc,

I did write him an e-mail asking him if he took a shot at me. He verified that he did amd offered a backhanded apology there.

My SECOND e-mail asked for the retraction. It was ignored and that is what eventually got us to where we are now.

It surprises me how my motives have been repeatedly misinterpreted here. I did not ever claim to have invented the GBU style. I simply did not wish to be accused of having stolen it from another writer.

The retraction I asked for could have been as ambiguous as the original comment. I never asked that I or the site be mentioned by name. I simply wanted some sort of acknowlegement of a mistake posted in the same place that the error occurred.

I guess it's all moot at this point anyway, since I will make a brief final comment about this in my column tomorrow and that will be the last I speak of it.



Michaelangelo
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http://slashwrestling.com/

(edited by Michaelangelo on 28.1.02 1955)
Merc
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If you guys would just get with the 'net wrestling hive mind there wouldn't be these useless differences of opinion. Everyone would think the same thing and the world would be a happy place. Poor Aussies would not get confused about the timeline of events in "IWP fueds" either.



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