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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
What a shame (news.yahoo.com). I hope there's someone in Congress ready to step up and fill the overwhelming void of arrogance and corruption Delay's resignation will leave. Not that many other congressmen are honest, hard-working people, but I don't know if anyone else can push individual- and friend-oriented agendas without regard for public concern or national well-being like Delay could.

I hope his quitting and walking away doesn't end the investigation into his bullshit redistricting of Texas and other shady dealings former employees have confessed to being involved in. He wasted the country's time in his campaign to smear Clinton, stole extra representation for Texas Republicans by remapping the Congressional districts and in general represents everything about politics that has made so many in this country so cynical. What a guy. Good riddance.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 4.4.06 0346)
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.37

    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    his bullshit redistricting of Texas ....stole extra representation for Texas Republicans by remapping the Congressional districts


Come on, this happens in every state by both parties.

    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    He wasted the country's time in his campaign to smear Clinton,


Clinton gave so much fodder, how could he resist?

That being said, I don't think anyone will miss DeLay.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      his bullshit redistricting of Texas ....stole extra representation for Texas Republicans by remapping the Congressional districts


    Come on, this happens in every state by both parties.


Can you name for me another congressman who had to resign due to a pending investigation into such practices? From the story:


    His trademark aggressiveness helped trigger his downfall, when he led a drive to redraw Texas' congressional district boundaries to increase the number of seats in GOP hands.

    The gambit succeeded, but DeLay was soon caught up in an investigation involving the use of corporate funds in the campaigns of legislators who had participated in the redistricting.


Maybe redistricting for unethical means happens all over, I'm not really sure, but DeLay got caught doing it illegally ("allegedly").
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"Well I guess if you say so, I'll have to pack my things and go."

"THAT'S RIGHT! Hit the road Jack, and don't you come back no more no more no MORE no more, hit the road Jack, and don't you come back no more."

Now if we can just get rid of all the other corrupt Republicans in government, maybe so many good people wouldn't hate the GOP so much.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.54
Good people HATE the GOP? That's a pretty strong word there isn't it. I don't know many good people that HATE the Democratic Party. They may really dislike certain Donkies, but hate the party as a whole?
We are all Americans and Westerners, why waste time hating each other? Why does everyone have the opinion that it is the GOP that is solely corrupt.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
    Why does everyone have the opinion that it is the GOP that is solely corrupt.



Probably because they're the ones in power at the moment. There's corruption everywhere, but the ones who are seemingly "in charge" get most of the backlash. Especially if you don't like what you're seeing in government at the moment.

You also have DeLay and Duke Cunningham as the two most recent big headline corruption cases to spur on the thought that the GOP right now is a bunch of crooks. Angry voters + bad headlines = whitewashing of the whole party.

Personally, I wouldn't trust anybody with the word "Congressman" in front of his or her name, no matter what party they're affiliated with. Of course, that means I'm buying into the government is corrupt hype, too.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.22
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by Eddie Famous
        Originally posted by TheBucsFan
        his bullshit redistricting of Texas ....stole extra representation for Texas Republicans by remapping the Congressional districts


      Come on, this happens in every state by both parties.


    Can you name for me another congressman who had to resign due to a pending investigation into such practices? From the story:


      His trademark aggressiveness helped trigger his downfall, when he led a drive to redraw Texas' congressional district boundaries to increase the number of seats in GOP hands.

      The gambit succeeded, but DeLay was soon caught up in an investigation involving the use of corporate funds in the campaigns of legislators who had participated in the redistricting.


    Maybe redistricting for unethical means happens all over, I'm not really sure, but DeLay got caught doing it illegally ("allegedly").


Eddie Famous was making the point specifically about gerrymandering, as the original post in this thread didn't mention the fact that what he's being investigated for specifically is campaign funding for representatives in that district (which the article you cited pointed out).

As for corruption...definitely not just a GOP problem. The highest profile case I can think of with a Democrat is James Traficant, who I believe is still serving his sentence. The point could be made, however, that Traficant was an eccentric who constantly bucked the Democratic leadership, while DeLay was Majority Whip.

(edited by Deputy Marshall on 5.4.06 1243)


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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.56
    Originally posted by Roy.
      Originally posted by ShotGunShep
      Why does everyone have the opinion that it is the GOP that is solely corrupt.



    Probably because they're the ones in power at the moment. There's corruption everywhere, but the ones who are seemingly "in charge" get most of the backlash. Especially if you don't like what you're seeing in government at the moment.

    You also have DeLay and Duke Cunningham as the two most recent big headline corruption cases to spur on the thought that the GOP right now is a bunch of crooks. Angry voters + bad headlines = whitewashing of the whole party.

    Personally, I wouldn't trust anybody with the word "Congressman" in front of his or her name, no matter what party they're affiliated with. Of course, that means I'm buying into the government is corrupt hype, too.


This is what the polls show. I don't think things are bad enough yet to cause them to lose control. Remember, they may all be bums but they like their bum. They are much more likely to lose control over Iraq than this unless it gets much worse. Also to be tossed, it would require the Dems to actually be coherent and have a plan, not just attacks.

(edited by DrDirt on 5.4.06 1227)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.36

    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
    Eddie Famous was making the point specifically about gerrymandering, as the original post in this thread didn't mention the fact that what he's being investigated for specifically is campaign funding for representatives in that district (which the article you cited pointed out)


Si.

DeLay is a dimwit, fer sure, but gerrymandering goes on all the time. Just look at the Illinois state districts...



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

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    Originally posted by Eddie Famous
      Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
      Eddie Famous was making the point specifically about gerrymandering, as the original post in this thread didn't mention the fact that what he's being investigated for specifically is campaign funding for representatives in that district (which the article you cited pointed out)


    Si.

    DeLay is a dimwit, fer sure, but gerrymandering goes on all the time. Just look at the Illinois state districts...


And the best part about it? Who's going to change the system? Never thought I'd say this, but Iowa's on to something.



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