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Since: 6.11.03
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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.53
    Originally posted by Grimis
    I wouldn't have a problem with airing an ad, but they do reserve the right to use good judgment. Since it is MoveOn.org, I know the spot will be in poor taste because they don't have any actual legitimate points to make...

Exactly. They showed how "sorry" they were about the ads that horrified the Jewish community by mocking the hoopla it created at their awards dinner. The ad they'd have run would probably have made the CBS standards and practices department say "Couldn't we just show that wrestling commercial with urine spraying the walls instead?"

As a sidebar: I'm what the politically correct call a "homophobe", but there are men out there that are less of a turn-off than Margaret Cho. I'd have to imagine the day Tarantino climbed the Hollywood ladder enough to dump her for Mira Sorvino would be among the happiest of his life.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.72
Kind of funny how nobody's actually addressing Leroy's point about the whole double standard issue.

Either dump on the Post for comparing Dean to Goebbels and his fans to the Brownshirts like you're dumping on MoveOn.org for their breaking of Godwinn's Law, or ignore BOTH of them because neither one is a paragon of journalistic integrity.

It's only fair, right?



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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.53
    Originally posted by Nate The Snake
    Kind of funny how nobody's actually addressing Leroy's point about the whole double standard issue.

    Either dump on the Post for comparing Dean to Goebbels and his fans to the Brownshirts like you're dumping on MoveOn.org for their breaking of Godwinn's Law, or ignore BOTH of them because neither one is a paragon of journalistic integrity.

    It's only fair, right?

If the Post tried to buy time during the Superbowl to exclaim Dean was a Nazi I SWEAR I'd be just as happy to hear that CBS refused to air it.

EDIT: And something said on the op-ed page is a hell of a lot different from something that's supposed to represent the overall view of the organization. Anyone unable to grasp that need only read any newspapers' opinion page disclaimer.


(edited by Barbwire Mike on 16.1.04 2100)

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.78
Take a look at the way the media handled the Trent Lott comment about Strom

What, you mean ignoring it for nearly a week until the political blogosphere made such a noise about it that The Daily Show started making jokes about it and THEN the national media really started to roll with the story?

The Trent Lott comment would have been completely passed over if the mainstream media had been the arbiters of its newsworthiness - largely because "Trent Lott is a bigot" wasn't news to them, but rather just the usual state of affairs.

and compare it to the way they reacted to Hillary's "joke" about Ghandi (what? That got zero coverage?,)

Because A) she immediately apologized and B) Hillary Clinton, unlike Trent Lott, doesn't have a history of racist comments, accepting campaign donations from the Council of Conservative Citizens, and making appearances at Bob Jones University.

Prior behavior counts for a lot in these sorts of things. Anybody can say something stupid and not mean it, and if they apologize immediately, no harm done beyond them looking like a dumbass (which she did). If someone says something stupid and has a history of saying that same stupid thing over and over again, and moreover a general reputation for possibly sympathizing with the sentiments of the something stupid, that's a different ball of wax.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.72
    Originally posted by Barbwire Mike
    If the Post tried to buy time during the Superbowl to exclaim Dean was a Nazi I SWEAR I'd be just as happy to hear that CBS refused to air it.


Except, of course, that MoveOn didn't submit that commercial to CBS. The one they submitted had no Godwinn-worthy material at all. The Hitler comparisons showed up on a website that they'd set up that was taking commercial submissions for later voting.(http://moveonvoterfund.org/smear/release.html) The CBS ad was one that implied that today's kids would wind up paying off GW's insanely huge national debt. Your basic political attack ad, essentially. (Which CBS was, IMO, right to shoot down. Who wants to see that during the Big Game?)

    Originally posted by Barbwire Mike
    And something said on the op-ed page is a hell of a lot different from something that's supposed to represent the overall view of the organization. Anyone unable to grasp that need only read any newspapers' opinion page disclaimer.


The Bush = Hitler commercial was made and submitted as part of a contest by someone who wasn't affiliated with MoveOn, was voted down as a possible entrant for that contest (thus implying that it does not represent their views) and subsequently removed from the website it wound up being posted on and apologized for.

The Dean = Goebbels column was made and submitted by a regular contributor to the Post, and has never been apologized for.

Both were opinions. Both were completely reprehensible and off-base. Both passed through their respective editorial processes. One was approved, one was not. One's been apologized for, one hasn't. One's surrounded by a shitstorm of complaints, one's essentially been ignored.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.51
    Originally posted by godking
    Because A) she immediately apologized and B) Hillary Clinton, unlike Trent Lott, doesn't have a history of racist comments, accepting campaign donations from the Council of Conservative Citizens, and making appearances at Bob Jones University.

    Prior behavior counts for a lot in these sorts of things. Anybody can say something stupid and not mean it, and if they apologize immediately, no harm done beyond them looking like a dumbass (which she did). If someone says something stupid and has a history of saying that same stupid thing over and over again, and moreover a general reputation for possibly sympathizing with the sentiments of the something stupid, that's a different ball of wax.


Hillary doesn't have a history of racist comments?? This is the same Hillary that was quoted as calling someone a "F***ing Jew Bastard", right...?

I know that NewsMax is unapologetically Right, & some of the stuff in this piece are a bit over the top, but it goes into some of the double-standard in the way the media reports these things as well as shedding light on the way Hillary at least views Jews.
http://www.newsmax.com/ showinside.shtml?a=2000/ 7/16/101106


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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.50
The liberal media accusation is something I never got. The names I heard being put in the liberal media are people who dare to look at both sides. They might have a slight leaning to the left, but they keep some integrity which is something that the Conservative accusers don't... The thing is on the conservative side you go up and down the AM dial it's show after show of over-the-top, exaggerative Pro-Right hosts and some extent in Cable as well. But when these guys then call out someone in the media for having a liberal bias because of something subtle he said. Sorry it doesn't hold any water for me when the Pro-right host has the three stooges theme playing whenever he talks about a democrate member.

This whole thing reminds me of someone on a message board who ALWAYS TYPES IN CAPS AND USES LOTS OF EXCLAMATION POINTS !!!! calling another posters writing annoying because he accidently used a period instead of a comma.



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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.19
You guys are right. There's no difference between networks pushing a political agenda under the guise of "news" and talk shows that let you know right up front they are giving their own opinion. There's no difference between slanted reporting on the front page of a newspaper and statements made on the section that has "opinion" in bold letters right at the top.

My bad, no bias exists... except at Fox News of course. Those Nazis.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
So what *exactly* is that agenda that the news media is pushing? I try not to watch CNN or Fox all that much because they both have so much time to fill that they air the most ridiculous (penny-arcade.com) theories as news.

-Jag

Of course, FOX News has Bill O'Reilly (The W) so even if their reporting is fair and balanced, it just slews the whole network (and dare I say Fox Sports as well!) to the right.



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Since: 6.1.02
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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
The media that is somewhat leftiest isn't "red meat" leftist like the right-wing media. Whatever station you want to say has a left-wing bias has one like the Wall Street Journal or CNBC has a right-wing bias.

You have to go to the alternative weekly city papers (like the Village Voice) or the internet rags to get the left-wing bias you see on FOX or even MSNBC. Really. Once CNN has a prime-time show dedicated to blatently ridiculing conservatives maybe I'll buy it. CNN does not have the Barney Frank show on every night at 8:00. That would be an equivilant left-wing bias to FOX's right-wing bias.

It seems like the right says the traditional media is "biased" because they don't report exactly what they want. Well, guess what, they don't report exactly what the left wants either. The aforementioned alt weeklies and internet rags are full every issue of stuff that the mainstream media has decided not to cover.

Now, I'm down with stuff like the New York Sun, or even the Washington Times. I read them both (Well, I don't really read the Wash Times or Wash Post anymore sine I left DC). That's a far cry from the NY Post or HANNITY and colmes, or Bill O'Reilly or Michael Wiener or Joe Scarborough or the other propoganda shows.

The right wing bias in the News is actually not my biggest bias complaint though. Now that the internet's here, one can find the news with whatever kind of spin they want, and I read both left and right leaning publications. My biggest problem is the non-news bias. The Post's biggest problem isn't its right-wing bias, it's its ridiculous emphasis on celebrity gossip and sensationalized headlines. The NY Times biggest problem isn't its (supposed) left-wing bias, it's that every non-news article is written exclusively for residents of West 72nd street (they had one recent lead lifestyle article on how hard it is to know how much to tip the doorman, maid, nanny and masseuse. Seriously). And my biggest problem with the right-wing propaganda shows isn't the right-wing propaganda they spew, it's the ridiculous "voice of the common man" bullshit the rich, elitist, Ivy-league Ivory Tower hosts do while spewing it.





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