is it just me or does everything Bischoff do in terms of trying to one up his enemies (Everyone)devalue something else.
Hell in a Cell has been billed as the be all and end all when it comes to brutality in WWE and only recently has it gotton over the stigma of needing a big bump to make it seem complete (Thereby shooting Jeffs career to bits). jericho/HHH and brock/taker had great matches in HIAC without the bump and still entertained like all buggery and instead of consolidating, he says that he will again take it up a notch with this Chamber of Elimination.
I have no problem with this in theory but long term this stuff always hurts. i thought they were on the right track when they split the brands and began reducing the amount of titles. this brought them back to a stable stage where they could build them as two seperate codes.
then as soon as they get it down to a manageable level they begin expanding again. ladder matches and cage matches were once the staple for intensity and 80% of the time produced awesome matches but it still came down to the talent in the ring.
We've seen our share of crap in a cage and there must've been a bad ladder match somewhere. but one thing was always constant. each new innovation made it harder to appreciate a normal match. for every sunsetflip-powerbomb eddie does over a ladder, a normal powerbomb cringes.
for each debuting talent who soakes up tv time and then gets fired cause they sucked in the first place, there is a Christian who falls down a rung even though he could carry Jackie Gayda to a good match(Probably not possible but bare with me a few seconds more)
i have no doubt the way everyone is yelling about this being another name for the "awesome War Games "(Whatever that is can someone give us a flashback cause i didn't watch wcw) that it's gonna rock but just think. unless it's needed for the storyline to settle a fued, don't you get bored with those normal matches even though you remember somewhere deep inside that you would've likeds them a few years back.
Find the tape with WAR GAMES when it was the Dangerous Alliance vs WCW. If they would actually let them have at it, and JUICE all over, it could be a highly entertaining match. The match is, two rings, surrounded by a cage (with a cieling on it) and two guys start from two different teams. Every few minutes they add ONE member from another team. So, every few minutes, you have a double team opportunity going to happen before it evens out. Superb match, but only if done right, and BRUATALITY is allowed.
As far as bitching about new people coming in, and pushing other people down the ladder, remember, Edge still has a job. Edge still is on TV, so stop crying about how somebody is getting pushed "a rung down the ladder".
the fact you got Christian and Edge mixed up proves my point. besides what i'm saying is that if you have a roster with a good to great amount of talent and a stable of matches that equals it then why not just get what you've got to a level that is above par and then see how expanding it goes. aw well... this thread was just to say what i needed to say.
Hell In the Cell is the most brutal match WWE can offer (or so it is being sold to us) Now here is Eric Bisschof..the man that constantly yells that he ups everyone one. The man that said that he upped the ante of TLC the week after by having a (wtf was so special aboutit????)lumberjack match..
It is his character to say that the chamber thing will be more special.
As for the gimmick matches. I believe they are using them pretty well right now. Bisch has to come up with shocking stipulations in order to provide an entertaining show. SD! Usually gives you wrestling, with a few exceptions ofcourse.
And the good thing is about the most recent bunch of ladder, cage andwhatnot matches that there weren't usually death defying stunts in there. They don't go even more crazy with the bumps. They use them better I think. ofcourse TLC is an exception, as the whole idea is nothing but spots for this match.
The only person who is capable of carrying a broom to a five star outing is none other than.... Torri Welles
In order for Raw and Smackdown to be seen on equal ground in the eyes of the viewers, they have to be played up as equals by WWF management. However, you can't have a situation where Raw and Smackdown's big blowoff show for both is Wrestlemania. Too much will be going on and it will be easy for one brand to overshadow the other (in the probable case, SD overshadowing Raw).
So how do you do this? Simple... you set up a similar pattern on different shows as a way of elevating those shows' importance. We've always had the #1 contender winning his title shot in the Royal Rumble, then getting his shot at Wrestlemania. Since the Smackdown belt is the same belt, let Smackdown keep that pattern and then for Raw... see where I'm going?
Have the big title match for Raw at ROYAL RUMBLE, as a way of counteracting the Rumble itself and not letting one show overshadow another... and have the Raw challenger win his title shot at... that's right. SURVIVOR SERIES. That way, things stay balanced, and Survivor Series is elevated in importance. Right now, all it's memorable for is a type of gimmick match - make it a way for Raw wrestlers to win a title shot, and it's got credibility with the Big Four (RR, WM, KOTR, Summerslam).
And this Chamber of Elimination just might be the way to do it. Sure, the name sucks, but honestly... the first thought that came into my mind when Uncle Eric suggested it was "Small Royal Rumble inside a cage".
"It looks like those so-called "out-of-date rules and regulations" you mentioned may not be so out of date after all, since they've drastically cut back on the ridiculous bumps that Foley had a big hand in making popular.