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Monday
8pm: "Everybody Hates Chris"
8:30: "Aliens In America" (a 16-year old Pakistani Muslim lives with an unpopular 16-year old and his family in Wisconsin; with Amy Pietz and Dan Byrd)
9: "Girlfriends"
9:30: "The Game"

Tuesday
8pm: "Beauty And The Geek"
9: "Reaper" (a slacker learns his parents sold his soul to the devil before he was born; now he's the Satan's bounty hunter; wih Bret Harrion, Tyler Labine)

Wednesday
8pm: "America's Next Top Model"
9: "Gossip Girl" (battle for social supremecy among teens in Manhattan; with Blake Lively, Leighton Meester)

Thursday
8pm: "Smallville"
9: "Supernatural"

Friday
8pm: "Friday Night Smackdown"

Sunday
7pm: "CW Now" (reality series blending news and entertainment, bringing you what's hot right now)
7:30: "Online Nation" (reality series taking bizarre and hilarious videos from the 'net and putting them on TV)
8: "Life Is Wild" (blended family from NY moves to South Africa; starring Andrew St. John, Brett Cullen)
9: "America's Next Top Model (encore presentation"

At Midseason: "One Tree Hill," "Pussycat Dolls Present," "Farmer Wants A Wife," (reality series where a farmer searches for a big city wife), "Crowned: The Mother of All Pageants" (reality series where mother/daughter teams work together to win a beauty pageant).

Cancelled: "All Of Us," "Gilmore Girls," "7th Heaven."

TBD: "Veronica Mars"



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.37
    Originally posted by geemoney
    TBD: "Veronica Mars"

It's pretty determined. From the Ausiello Report on the CW upfronts:

    Originally posted by Ausiello
    12:47: The press conference is over. I tackle Dawn just as she tries to escape and I ask her to level with me. Is Veronica dead? "Veronica Mars is over, but we're talking about something else. I don't know if it's going to be anything. I'm being honest with you. It could come back in some form, but I don't know what form that would be." She confirmed that the deadline to make a decision is "somewhere around" the June 15 date I referred to previously. Long story short: mystery still not solved!

    ...

    I forwarded Veronica Mars creator Rob Thomas the comments Dawn Ostroff made at the CW upfront (read 'em in my live blog) regarding the show's fate, and below is the response he just sent me:

    "No one has talked to me about a new, non-Veronica project. All my writers have been offered jobs elsewhere, and I believe they will now all accept these jobs. Very, very, very sad day around the VM offices.

    "I assume that anything Dawn would be talking about in the realm of a Rob-Kristen project would involve a new from-scratch pilot as they don't have me in a deal, and they'll lose Kristen in a couple of weeks."

    Bottom line: It's over.


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X-E's co-Worst Poster of all time! JKyle.com says:

The exact reason I didn't want to read this thread was to find out Veronica Mars was gone.

The reason I smiled when Gilmore Girls was axed was because it gave Veronica Mars a fighting chance.

And now I find out Veronica Mars is gone too.

And One Tree Hill has AGAIN survived.

The CW Network has apparently not learned from the WB's mistakes (Everwood, Angel, Do Over, etc...).

Edit~! Changed the ending to sound less like an angst ridden 15 year old.

(edited by AngryJohnny on 17.5.07 0900)



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I'm fine with Veronica Mars being over. I was absolutely in love with that show in its first season but it gradually became less essential viewing as the show hit season 3. I still like the characters of Veronica, Keith, Wallace and Mac a whole lot. But my friend put it best when I told him Veronica was done: "I feel like I already finished a great story but the characters are still hanging around for some reason." I thought that was an accurate assessment of the show's current creative footing. Nothing came close to matching that Lilly Kane mystery in season one and the past season, especially these last few episodes, feel like the show is hanging on for the sake of hanging on. The FBI direction could have been interesting but Veronica Mars's best days were when she was an angry loner in high school solving mysteries while tracking down who killed her best friend. I'll miss Veronica Mars but there's always the DVDs.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.72

I think Veronica Mars is the perfect example of an American TV show that would have been great with the British Tv model.

6 or 13 episodes and then boom, you're done.

IF you have another GREAT idea, you can bring it back for another season.

Shows like The office and Ultraviolet and Blackadder would not be nearly as great if they had to crank out 22 episodes every year.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    I think Veronica Mars is the perfect example of an American TV show that would have been great with the British Tv model.

    6 or 13 episodes and then boom, you're done.

    IF you have another GREAT idea, you can bring it back for another season.

    Shows like The office and Ultraviolet and Blackadder would not be nearly as great if they had to crank out 22 episodes every year.


I agree with everything you said but something tells me the Office undermines your point.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.72

I don't necessarily think the success of the american office (which I admittedly do not watch) would equate to the same kind of success for the british office.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    I think Veronica Mars is the perfect example of an American TV show that would have been great with the British Tv model.

    6 or 13 episodes and then boom, you're done.

    IF you have another GREAT idea, you can bring it back for another season.

    Shows like The office and Ultraviolet and Blackadder would not be nearly as great if they had to crank out 22 episodes every year.


By series 4, I cringed every time Baldrick would say "I have a cunning plan." and they go so lazy with their writing that they were relying on "You are as _____ as a ____ which has ____." every episode.


I'd have to say that Mr. Bean would be a better example. I don't see how could do 100 episodes with him and stay fresh.




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Yeah but you see that was in World War I so it was fresh and different
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.76
    Originally posted by odessasteps

    I don't necessarily think the success of the american office (which I admittedly do not watch) would equate to the same kind of success for the british office.


Well, there are differences to be sure, based off culture and format, but the point is that the Office concept was able to survive the transition. Really, given all the other examples, its quite surprising. It will be interesting to see how the IT Crowd does next year.

If you're arguing that more American shows should follow a British 'less episodes/season' format, I think HBO is proving just how successful that can be.



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    Originally posted by EddieBurkett
      Originally posted by odessasteps

      I don't necessarily think the success of the american office (which I admittedly do not watch) would equate to the same kind of success for the british office.


    Well, there are differences to be sure, based off culture and format, but the point is that the Office concept was able to survive the transition. Really, given all the other examples, its quite surprising. It will be interesting to see how the IT Crowd does next year.

    If you're arguing that more American shows should follow a British 'less episodes/season' format, I think HBO is proving just how successful that can be.


agreed. there have been plenty of times when friends of mine have said as much. I think this is especially true with the mini-series concept.

As for Blackadder, I know a number of folks who think Four is the best season of the show. (I rank them 2-3-4-1.)



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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    "I feel like I already finished a great story but the characters are still hanging around for some reason."


That's a good description if the characters in question are Veronica and Logan but one of the reasons this season was so horrible is because the other characters WEREN'T hanging around. There was hardly any Wallace, Weevil, Mac or Sheriff Lamb and Piz was introduced, used for the first episode and then didn't really do anything until the last couple of episodes. The loss of Wallace was especially hurtful because Wallace was almost like a moral barometer for Veronica and without him she just became a total ass so the whole season was two unlikable character breaking up and getting back together every other episode.

(edited by Quezzy on 17.5.07 1927)


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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.28
So I've never seen Veronica Mars, but will have access to episodes and am thinking about watching it to kill some time this summer. Should I just go for the first season and call it quits?



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.51
This season was hardly horrible, not with Paul Rudd and Ed Beg. But it didn't feel like the real deal with no season-long mystery and nothing doing for the supporting cast. Those weren't really independently-made decisions, though, so I don't hold it against them specifically.


    Should I just go for the first season and call it quits?


Season one is a masterpiece, but season two still rules. Its payoff was even better than season one's.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
Yeah, let's clarify something about Veronica Mars: This is not a case of season one being excellent and the other two seasons sucking. For all three seasons, Veronica Mars is a very good show. Always well written, well acted, entertaining and enjoyable.

Season one happens to be GREAT. Great television. A masterpiece as Justin said. A complete story that clicks from beginning to end and delivers everything it promises and more, with a heroine at its center who you totally root for because she's smart and has guts. When it's said that seasons two and three aren't as good, it's a reflection of just how good season one was that "very good" becomes a bit of a letdown by comparison.

Season two was very good. It was a little unwieldy and sometimes it was hard to follow but the payoff is also excellent. It's not as consistent and fresh and novel as season one, more muddled, but still very good.

Season three is also good, has some great moments, but doesn't follow through like previous seasons because the 'season long mystery story arc' of seasons 1 and 2 were abandoned in the failed attempt to garner more viewers and make the show more accessible. There are two smaller mystery arcs and then a series of stand alone episodes to end the season/series. The things you come to love in previous seasons, such as a big honking mystery with numerous red herrings to wrap your head around and Veronica's interplay with her supporting cast, are seriously downplayed. The mysteries are never as personal or gripping as in seasons one and two. But again, this is because the show was so good initially that 'still good but not as good' is a letdown.

As a whole, Veronica Mars is worth seeing start to finish if you're so inclined. If you love season one, you're likely gonna want to see the series through to its end.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.10
I agree with John. Better that VM burn out than fade away. I was fine with them replacing the one uber-mystery in a season for the 2-3 mini-mysteries (the Hearst rapist case this season was particularly well done), but if it's just going to be one-case-per-show from now on, it just won't be the same. I also haven't cared for the increased focus on Veronica's love life -- it's a detective show, dammit.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.92
I continue to be the only person in the world watching Smallville.. and I don't care! Last season picked it up from season 5, going from "fairly sucky" to "fairly tolerable." The writers must know how to keep their jobs though. They have one, maybe two, jaw-dropping episodes in the middle of the season and fit those between a pretty good season premiere and a just completely RIDICULOUS season finale.

The first three seasons were filled with quality episodes, but they've used this formula for the last three seasons in a row. I'm particularly fond of this season's finale, what with the introduction of Bizzaro Superman and the possible deaths of at least two characters. Fall can't get here soon enough!

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