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Since: 20.6.02
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#1 Posted on
The Ross says:

"Mike Tyson is set to fight again, February 23, in Memphis. I hope this fight comes off as planned, but I’m not holding my breath. Boxing is crazier than our business, but I know Mike needs this payday and a victory to set up another bout with Lenox Lewis. There is really no one else for Lewis to face as boxing does not have an over abundance of heavyweight stars. Sounds familiar."

Sounds like an inside bash to me. I guess even JR knows that things are starting to get bad at the top.

And before people start whining that JR should stop whining and do something about it, you people need to remember that JR IS NOT THE BOOKER!! JR recruits talent, but he doesn't push them! That's up to the McMahons and the bookers!




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Since: 23.5.02
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#2 Posted on
I really don't see how that's cryptic or metaphorical.



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#3 Posted on
Ok, let me clear it up.

JR's saying that for boxing, there isn't an abundance of heavyweight stars and points out that the situation sounds familiar.

Apply that same statement for Raw.

Other than Triple H, none of the other heavyweights have really been credibly built up and those that have were quickly pushed down the ladder after getting taken down a few pegs by either Triple H or stupid booking.

Thus, crypitical and metaphorical.




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Since: 9.7.02
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#4 Posted on
I don't think it was cryptic or metaphorical; I think it was a shot. A shot at Vince and WWE in general. It was also stupid of him to say. WWE has, at its disposal, right now:

Triple H (WWE Title: 5+ WCW/World Title: 1)
Chris Jericho (WWE: 1 WCW/World: 2+)
Booker T (WWE: 0 WCW/World: 5, 5, 5, 5, 5)
Kane (WWE: 1+ WCW/World: 0)

And that's JUST on Raw, and it's NOT counting the current World Champion OR the guy who is going to challenge him for it Monday! That's not counting Steiner! That's not counting the list of guys who are one phone call away! How can JR say that WWE is lacking big name talent? Wait, I know what it is. Austin's gone, Rock's shooting a movie and Triple H isn't champion. All of JR's hosses got hurt, so instead of trying to talk with guys in charge, he's going to bitch and whine. The problem here is politics. Booker T's a WCW guy, and he will be until he shuts up about the WCW Title and starts winning it. Jericho's Jericho, so he can't possibly be big name. Kane's too big. This is absolutely ridiculous!



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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by It's False
    Ok, let me clear it up.

    JR's saying that for boxing, there isn't an abundance of heavyweight stars and points out that the situation sounds familiar.

    Apply that same statement for Raw.

    Other than Triple H, none of the other heavyweights have really been credibly built up and those that have were quickly pushed down the ladder after getting taken down a few pegs by either Triple H or stupid booking.

    Thus, crypitical and metaphorical.






The Klitschko brothers are heavyweight talent. Only Lewis keeps ducking them.



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Since: 26.8.02

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#6 Posted on
Personally, I liked this quote better:

Most NBA and NHL teams, with a few exceptions, are not drawing as well as their ownership would like. It’s probably their “writers” fault.

And why would Mike Tyson want to fight Lennox Lewis again? Does he actually think he had a chance or is it purely for the money?
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Since: 25.6.02
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.21

    Originally posted by InVerse
    Personally, I liked this quote better:

    Most NBA and NHL teams, with a few exceptions, are not drawing as well as their ownership would like. It’s probably their “writers” fault.

    And why would Mike Tyson want to fight Lennox Lewis again? Does he actually think he had a chance or is it purely for the money?



What does quoting JR on the attendence thing have to do with Tyson???





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Since: 26.8.02

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#8 Posted on

    Originally posted by Socks
    What does quoting JR on the attendence thing have to do with Tyson???


Isn't it obvious? Mike Tyson is in charge of designating the attendence figures for professional basketball and hockey games in the US.
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Since: 23.5.02
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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by It's False
    Ok, let me clear it up.

    JR's saying that for boxing, there isn't an abundance of heavyweight stars and points out that the situation sounds familiar.

    Apply that same statement for Raw.

    Other than Triple H, none of the other heavyweights have really been credibly built up and those that have were quickly pushed down the ladder after getting taken down a few pegs by either Triple H or stupid booking.

    Thus, crypitical and metaphorical.



Cryptic: Having ambiguous or hidden meaning. If this was meant to be cryptic it was very shoddily done. I think just about any fan that read his statement understood what he was trying to say (but thanks for the explanation anyway). If he had said, "The green butterflies surround the moon at midnight." Now THAT would have been cryptic.

And there is a difference between an analogy and a metaphor.

By the way, this is all in good fun and jest so don't get too upset with me.



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Since: 21.9.02
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#10 Posted on

    Originally posted by Socks

      Originally posted by InVerse
      Personally, I liked this quote better:

      Most NBA and NHL teams, with a few exceptions, are not drawing as well as their ownership would like. It’s probably their “writers” fault.

      And why would Mike Tyson want to fight Lennox Lewis again? Does he actually think he had a chance or is it purely for the money?



    What does quoting JR on the attendence thing have to do with Tyson???




It has nothing to do with Tyson. He was just saying that he found that quote more interesting/fun/whatever. Then, new topic/idea, he started talking about Tyson.



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#11 Posted on
J.R. sounded a bit drunk on this report. A lot of incoherant rambling towards the end. I always get a kick out of Ross reports because he takes the time to discredit internet rumblings/opinions and yet he's writing an internet report to the very same audience.



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#12 Posted on
Well I think Ross is right about the lack of HEAVYWEIGHTS. Sure you got Jericho, RVD, Rey, Benoit, Eddie but those guys aren't HEAVYWEIGHTS, they're lightweights. Are they main event contenders? Maybe, but they're still not Heavyweights. I would say the only big name Heavyweights they have are Triple H, Angle, and Steiner. And I suppose Lesnar is there now as well.



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#13 Posted on
I don't think this is cryptic at all, or a dig at any of the performers. JR's attitude in the Ross Report for a while now has been "We need to build talent to the main event level, but this is a slow process and we are not there yet." This is just the same old, same old with new phrasing.
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#14 Posted on
JR is saying "We got more talent than anyone else in history, but we are booking as if we are very thin. Yet Angle and Benoit, Mysterio, RVD and Booker have been curtain jerking the past few weeks. What gives?"
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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by The Amazing Salami

      Originally posted by It's False
      Ok, let me clear it up.

      JR's saying that for boxing, there isn't an abundance of heavyweight stars and points out that the situation sounds familiar.

      Apply that same statement for Raw.

      Other than Triple H, none of the other heavyweights have really been credibly built up and those that have were quickly pushed down the ladder after getting taken down a few pegs by either Triple H or stupid booking.

      Thus, crypitical and metaphorical.



    Cryptic: Having ambiguous or hidden meaning. If this was meant to be cryptic it was very shoddily done. I think just about any fan that read his statement understood what he was trying to say (but thanks for the explanation anyway). If he had said, "The green butterflies surround the moon at midnight." Now THAT would have been cryptic.

    And there is a difference between an analogy and a metaphor.

    By the way, this is all in good fun and jest so don't get too upset with me.



The day I hear Jim Ross say "The green butterflies surround the moon at midnight" is the day I sell all my worldly possessions and use the money to build a really big hammer to kill people with.:)



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#16 Posted on

    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Well I think Ross is right about the lack of HEAVYWEIGHTS. Sure you got Jericho, RVD, Rey, Benoit, Eddie but those guys aren't HEAVYWEIGHTS, they're lightweights. Are they main event contenders? Maybe, but they're still not Heavyweights. I would say the only big name Heavyweights they have are Triple H, Angle, and Steiner. And I suppose Lesnar is there now as well.




In other words, he thinks they need to push more 'hosses'. It must really kill JR for Bradshaw to be hurt, that keeps him from saying 'hoss' at least 3 times a show.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
At least they moved Big Dave to RAW so JR can still say Hoss once or twice.




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Since: 7.1.02
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#18 Posted on
Reading some of the quotes from various people in the WWE, and it doesn't sound like in their mind that Jericho, Kane, or Booker T are stars.
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Since: 5.10.02
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#19 Posted on
Yes but that hoss Test is the future, by God. He's sure to turn things around.



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Since: 4.1.02
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#20 Posted on

    Cryptic: Having ambiguous or hidden meaning. If this was meant to be cryptic it was very shoddily done. I think just about any fan that read his statement understood what he was trying to say (but thanks for the explanation anyway). If he had said, "The green butterflies surround the moon at midnight." Now THAT would have been cryptic.


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Smithers: Uh, actually sir, we found the jade monkey. It was in the glove compartment.
Mr. Burns: Along with the maps and emergency flares?
Smithers: Yes sir.
Mr. Burns: Ex-cellent.





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