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Well, i was looking at the rankings page here at Weinerville and saw that we have 12 cruiserweights. I guess that means we have a better cruiserweight division than the WWF.



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And I'm sure that number will continue to grow!

I read over at WWF.com that Malenko's new focus as a road agent is going to be building up the cruiserweights. Lets hope he's successful.




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I wish I had a dollar for every time Jim Ross or someone at Titan makes noises about reviving the Cruiserweights.

Unfortunately, the American fan has been conditioned not to care about the juniors.

I don't even pretend to think it's going to happen anymore. I'm content to get tapes from Japan or Lucha.





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i hope dean is giving the air time and personel to make a serious start at cruiserweights....but, yeah, i'm not going to hold my breath either...



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If WWF seriously wanted to start a legitimate cw division, they would have done it by now. They have the talent for it, and yes they do have the air time they waste hours upon in a week. Its just that the lucha cw style defined in Japan, WCW, and elsewhere would probably be seriously hindered and crappified in WWF. Anyway, I've stopped caring about it in WWF, and I think everyone there has too.




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When I wrote a column a few months ago, one of the things I thought the WWF should do, if they were serious about pushing the juniors, was to give them enough time to get over and not just be seeing a quick-moving jobbers.

This could easily be accomplished by taking either 1/2 or all of Access and give it to "alternative programming." Have an hour of the cruiserweights and an hour of classic matches.

There's no audience at 10 on a Saturday nights for the casual fan, but the dedicated fan would watch or tape or Tivo it.





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Since: 6.1.02
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#7 Posted on
They do (or at least they did) that with Jakked. Jakked was always good for at least a 5-10 minute TAKA or Esse Rios match.

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#8 Posted on
It's more like 3-4 minute cruiserweight matches nowadays on Jakked/Metal, which downright sucks.



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I think part of the problem is that any cruiser that is good enough to get a good reaction from the fans gets pushed as a heavyweight. After all, why waste someone like that in a mid-card division.

A few names that have been pushed in the heavyweight division and have won heavyweight titles (i.e. World, IC, Euro, and Hardcore if held for more than 24 hours)

Chris Benoit: IC
Chris Jericho: World, IC, Euro
Christian: Euro, IC
Crash Holly: Euro, Hardcore
Jeff Hardy: IC, Hardcore
Maty Hardy: Euro, Hardcore
Hurricane: Euro
X-Pac: Euro
Lance Sotrm: IC

I think they should just dump the idea of a sperate division and just push the guys based on how well they can draw. If you insist on a sperate divison for light heavyweights, then you are just begging for a bunch of talented workers to get held at the midcard level. Guys like Nash and Hogan will replace the phrase 'he's too small to draw' with "you can't put the World title on him, it'll hurt the cruiserweight division."

Unless you want Chris Benoit as WWF Cruiserweight Champion...



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I think the CW division is a good so guys who will never be world heavyweight champions can have something to compete over, like in boxing. Guys like Spike Dudley, Jerry Lynn, Shane Helms, Tajiri, and the other cw hiding in OVW will never hold the WWF title. I remember, WCW at least made their CW division pretty prestigious and legitimate in its hey day and even in the end of WCW's run. But that won't happen unless WWF takes a cw division seriously enough, and that little brain fart they had with the cw division last summer was far from serious.




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Since: 4.1.02
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#11 Posted on

Well, it could still happen.
But to build something you have to start somewhere.
Even if it is on Jakked and places like that.
You give two guys some heat or push, and build from there..
When will this happen? *Shrug*

I don't think all CW's that are good get pushed to the heavyweight.
Guys like Benoit, Jericho are too good for it. I mean, their (mic)skills and all put them up there with the big guys. Lance and Jerry Lynn are border line, sure they could work the high fly stuff but can also deliver a nice solid match with a big guy. Could be good contenders for the IC title.
Hardyz are mostly a tag team. All their solo wins were to advance some angle.
All others should be in the CW division.


I think they should just dump the idea of a sperate division and just push the guys based on how well they can draw.

Isn't this what they are doing?
However, guys that COULD draw don't get a chance without the CW division, thus we need one.



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Originally posted by Tragic1
A few names that have been pushed in the heavyweight division and have won heavyweight titles (i.e. World, IC, Euro, and Hardcore if held for more than 24 hours)

Chris Benoit: IC
Chris Jericho: World, IC, Euro
Christian: Euro, IC
Crash Holly: Euro, Hardcore
Jeff Hardy: IC, Hardcore
Maty Hardy: Euro, Hardcore
Hurricane: Euro
X-Pac: Euro
Lance Sotrm: IC

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I respectfully take to task some of the names on that list, b/c Jericho and Benoit barely fit into the "Cruiserweight" category. Matt & Jeff Hardy, too. You can still be a "high-flyer" but just barely make it into the heavyweight ranks.

But, more importantly, the Cruiserweight title should be a building-block type fo belt for guys who are small, but have great skills. A guy like the Hurricane, maybe could be in the upper mix in a few years, but right now he's just a jobber. If he had a cruiserweight title (taken seriously) to fight for, it could help establish him. There's nothing that says you can't go from Cruiserweight to Heavyweight, or back. Right now, X-Pac is the Light Heavyweight Champion, and if he dropped the belt to Hurricane in a sold match, it would really elivate the Hurricane, since X-Pac's been in the ring (and beaten) big guys like Kane.





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#13 Posted on
Jericho was announced tonight as being 277 lbs.

Yeah, right.



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#14 Posted on

That's him plus his Ego. And maybe his lifts?
And how much do the belts weigh combined?



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277?? Christ, did he get weighed on Crash Holly's old scale or something?



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.87
Jericho was announced tonight as being 277 lbs.

And HHH is 290... The fed seriously needs to look at themselves and ask "does this make sense?"

The one that always bugged me was Rhyno at over 300, if, again, HHH is at 290.




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