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I got the latest edition of SI Extra in my e-mail today, and Michael Farber had an interesting idea about how to salvage the season, that is if a CBA is signed before March. I like this idea an awful lot, and think it's a more logical route than trying to force a half-assed regular season:

The NHL and the players' association will meet today (sans commissioner Gary Bettman and NHLPA executive director Bob Goodenow) in an effort to create some headway in the current lockout. The sides have not met since Dec. 14, when the league rejected the union's proposal—and don’t expect a new collective bargaining agreement to come out of this meeting. “Conversation is better than entrenched silence,” says SI senior writer Michael Farber. “But I think it's pretty much too late to have a season. If they settled on Sunday, for instance, you would have to get people back from Europe and get a ton of free agents signed. The season could not start until about Feb. 2. Then maybe you could think about a 36-game season or so.” Farber says there is a better way. He calls it April Madness. Under Farber’s plan the league would forego an abbreviated regular season in favor of a 30-team Stanley Cup playoff beginning in April. The first round would consist of best-of-three series followed by a best-of-five series in the second round. Then he’d have best-of-seven series all the way to the Stanley Cup Finals. Farber would give opening-round byes to the Stanley Cup champion Lightning and the runner-up Flames and seed the teams based on last year’s final standings. “The advantage of this is it would give both sides another four to six weeks to work out a CBA if they are so inclined,” says Farber. “Is it any less legit than a 36-game season? Well, it’s different, for sure. But it would definitely draw attention to the league. And certainly every game would count. But most of all, it would be a great gesture to the fans.”




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I liked the idea on ESPN.com that had a 24-game ALL intra-division schedule (play each team twice at home and twice on road) or a 28-game schedlue with each team playing their intra-conference opponents one at home and once on the road.

The intra-conference model is probably better now that I think about it, since there would be a bigger possibility that there a could be a divison with a 5-team logjam with the purely intra-division model.

Of course, at this point I'd take a Champions League-style 8-game group stage for each division, with the top four teams from each division advancing. Eliminate the six last-place teams to get to 24, give the six group winners and the next two best teams a bye, and have a 16-team "play-in" round, with eight teams advancing to the 16-team tournament. They could even do draws like Champions League does, just gimme some NHL, DAMMIT!

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For the curious, the seedings based on the Farber concept:

THE WEST:
1. Flames [Bye]
2. Red Wings vs. 15. Blackhawks
3. Sharks vs. 14. Blue Jackets
4. Canucks vs. 13. Coyotes
5. Avalanche vs. 12. Mighty Ducks
6. Stars vs. 11. Kings
7. Blues vs. 10. Wild
8. Predators vs. 9. Oilers

THE EAST:
1. Lightning [Bye]
2. Bruins vs. 15. Penguins
3. Flyers vs. 14. Capitals
4. Maple Leafs vs. 13. Rangers
5. Senators vs. 12. Panthers
6. Devils vs. 11. Hurricanes
7. Canadiens vs. 10. Thrashers
8. Islanders vs. 9. Sabres



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I'd take that in a heartbeat, my Wings against the Blackhawks. Might as well start such an abbreviated season with an old rivalry, even if it is one forgotten since the whole "Claude Lemeuix and the Avs are a bunch of cheap-shotting n00bs" rivalry.
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    Originally posted by Freeway420
    For the curious, the seedings based on the Farber concept:

    THE WEST:
    1. Flames [Bye]
    2. Red Wings vs. 15. Blackhawks
    3. Sharks vs. 14. Blue Jackets
    4. Canucks vs. 13. Coyotes
    5. Avalanche vs. 12. Mighty Ducks
    6. Stars vs. 11. Kings
    7. Blues vs. 10. Wild
    8. Predators vs. 9. Oilers

    THE EAST:
    1. Lightning [Bye]
    2. Bruins vs. 15. Penguins
    3. Flyers vs. 14. Capitals
    4. Maple Leafs vs. 13. Rangers
    5. Senators vs. 12. Panthers
    6. Devils vs. 11. Hurricanes
    7. Canadiens vs. 10. Thrashers
    8. Islanders vs. 9. Sabres


The storyline to THAT series writes itself... :)



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The 30 Team Tourney is a fun idea and great for speculation & discussion (Brian Leetch vs the Rangers in Round 1) but I couldn't see any owner in the league signing off on the possibility of their only playing one home game.

I wonder if they could work a double elimination tourney like they do in the College Baseball World Series ? That would at least give a team that fell on it's face in Round 1 a shot at re-grouping and making a possible dramatic run to the Final 4



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The 30 team tourney would never work. I mean Rangers, in the playoffs, it would mean the end to life as we know it.
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I'm far more in favour of the argument proposed by http://www.freestanley.com

This way, my hometown London Knights might actually have a shot at winning the Cup, which would quite literally be the biggest thing to ever happen to London.



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