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Since: 8.2.05
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hey Ive recently run into some trouble on my computer, well two of my computers, very strange, anyways i came across this thread where someone had a similar problem

http://the-w.com/thread.php/id=16118

i also read about a ntoskrl.exe file that may be corrupted, i replaced that still now progress...

the only difference is that when i select safe with command prompt is goes through a list of files or what ever,

"multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\windows\system32\drivers\(various).sys"

anyways the only difference(maybe that person didn't mention it)
but when i select any of the options including start windows normally it goes to a blank screen then goes to a blue screen with what I'm assuming is an error message? it flashes for less then a second and then restarts... does anyone know anything as to what is happening? what can i do? who would know.. I'm so lost i neeeeeed my computer

thanks in advance



PLEASE ANYONE?

(edited by emofck on 8.2.05 2011)
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Did you also mess with the boot screen for windows like the last guy did?



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emofck
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thanx for that.. honestly..
but can anyone help or not? just say so...
thanx
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1) You're pretty short on info. If you want help, you're going to have to give more info. Did you mess with the boot screen? If so, you may need to start there. I ask because you are referencing a post where the person asking for help had messed with the boot screen.

2) You aren't paying for any assistance, so be patient.

3) Hi, I run this board. That's what the administrator under my name means. Try not to piss me off.

Now, back to your problem. What did you do to start this issue? Things don't just break on their own, generally. Can you give me an idea of what you might have broken so that I can help you fix it?



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emofck
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anyways i installed new ram thats it.. it was the right type of ram, right speed, so on..i didnt mess with the boot screen, i did pull some wires(hd cords and drive cords, but i know how to install them and put them right back.. all is fine in there)

all i know is what i said.. it says windows didnt start properly previously, and then i have those options but they all go to a black screen and then flash a blue one with what i assume is some sort of error message, but because it flashes faster then a blink of an eye i cant read it.. and when i go to safe mode it loads all that stuff, the multi(0)disk(0)...so on then does the same, black screen then flash of blue then restarts.. i have no idea.. please help
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Alright, well, the first step is going to be removing the new RAM to see if it works. If it does, then you've limited the problem down a bit. Have you tried that yet?

If you have and it still doesn't boot into Windows, you're going to want to look at everything that it says during the power on self test. This is the first screen that comes up when your computer powers on - it shows the amount of RAM and what IDE devices are plugged in to your computer, generally. Does anything seem to be missing there?

Did you have a standard Windows set up with one hard drive, or were there mutliple drives? Did you have Windows on C: or was it on a different partion? Was this a multi-boot system or only Windows XP?

What kind of options do you have for support? Is this machine under warranty anywhere? Do you have an 800 number you can work with? I want to make sure that if you are doing this yourself that it is the best option.



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it was reading the wrong cpu but i fixed that(speed) the new ram is out its fine, and its windows xp alone, one drive, it was on c:/ and i whiped my hd and reinstalled windows. everything, no warrenty, built the computer up...dont know lots about it...
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I'm having a hard time understanding what you are saying. Is the computer fine when you take the new RAM out? Or is the RAM fine when it is out?

This appears to describe what you are seeing:

http://www.mvps.org/marksxp/WindowsXP/bsod.php

It sounds like your computer is hitting a BSOD (Blue screen of death - common name for the Windows crash screen). Unfortunately, you seem to be stuck in an endless loop of these.

Because of this, you may want to check out this link. BE SURE TO READ ALL OF THE WARNINGS.

Remember, this is just friendly advice I'm giving you. If there is irreplaceable stuff on the system (only copy of photos, tax info you can't replace, etc) DO NOT go forward and instead call someone local who can help you out.

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

//edit: Read this too before doing anything: http://www.digitalwebcast.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=8658

Then, decide if this is something that you think you should try to do yourself or if you should take the computer in for repair. Remember, you are making your own choices here, the liability falls on you.

(edited by Guru Zim on 8.2.05 2221)


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PS> Here's an Amazon link to a few Windows XP help books. Might want to pick one up for future use. If you buy something from Amazon after using this link, it gives us a small cut of the purchase.

Windows XP Help

//edit: That appears to have only put "For Dummies" books up. Huh. You could try this one too

Windows XP

(edited by Guru Zim on 8.2.05 2230)


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that seems to be what im experiencing exactly, except in that tutorial it says to turn the auto restart off in the settings, thats all fine and dandy but what do i do when i cant even get into windows to do that?which means i cant slow the reboot down which means i cant read the error which means i cant report and find info... and the reinstall thing.. isnt that the same as formatting the harddrive and reinstalling windows.. it should do the same result and i did that.. nothing.. the hd works its just that god for saken error i cant even get a chance to read...


thanx so much by the way its all been helpful(im getting closer and closer)

is there anyway to get into my computer to change those settings when i use the hd as a secondary in my other computer? i guess not eh.. i can access the files but i guess i couldnt go into my computer on my harddrive while im on the other harddrive if you get that? man o man..
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There were two more links in my last message. I guess you didn't see those after I added them.

Read this one. I'm not telling you this will work, but it seems to describe a problem similar to what you are trying to fix.

Please keep in mind that you may lose data trying this and that you should take steps to back up your irreplaceable data (like putting the HD in another system and copying the files) before trying this.

http://www.digitalwebcast.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=8658

And, always keep a current backup of your important files. That's not just important now when things aren't working, but in general.



Willful ignorance of science is not commendable. Refusing to learn the difference between a credible source and a shill is criminally stupid.
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ok that last link you gave me i went through and did all the steps coppyed the files, deleted the files, did exactly what it told me then it said restart and then go in to control panels and stuff, right then i realize i was suposed to have solved the problem(or atleast gotten into windows) but i didnt, i dont know whats left to do, its like my computer hates me...
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
Well, you are probably going to have to either take it in to a professional, or copy the files you need off of it and then reinstall Windows XP.

I don't think I can help you much more from here. Sorry.



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