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I was watching the 1990 Royal Rumble last night. It's a really good Rumble. But beyond that, while watching it I was thinking. My girlfriend's 10 year old boy is new to wrestling. When we watch old stuff, I try to compare the older guys to guys on the current roster to give him a perspective on the matches. So while watching the 1990 Rumble, I started trying to compare the 1990 roster to the 2013 roster. Some parallels are easy, such as Big Show = Andre and John Cena = Hulk Hogan. But then when it got deeper in to the mid-card it was more difficult.

It's not exactly matching up the personas and gimmicks with their modern counterparts, but more of their current spot on the card. In 1990, Earthquake just debuted as some big ass dude who was kicking people's asses and hadn't really established himself much past that at this time, thus Earthquake = Big E Langston. The Hart Foundation were a mid-card tag team at this point, so = The Usos. I'm trying not to compare the actual ability of the guys, because saying Bret Hart = Jey Uso is almost sickening, but their placement on the card at this time is similar.

Anyway, here's what I got. Thought it might be fun for discussion

Ted Dibiase - Alberto Del Rio (but with his recent face turn, kind of makes that one a bit more difficult)

Koko B Ware - Santino Marella

Marty Jannetty - Justin Gabriel

Jake Roberts - Randy Orton

Randy Savage - CM Punk

Roddy Piper - Sheamus

Warlord - Titus O'Neil

Bret Hart - Jey Uso

Bad News Brown - Wade Barrett

Dusty Rhodes - Brodus Clay

Andre the Giant - The Big Show

The Red Rooster - Zach Ryder

Ax - Kane

Haku - Mark Henry

Smash - Daniel Bryan

Akeem - Tensai

Jimmy Snuka - Rey Misterio

Dino Bravo - David Otunga

Earthquake - Big E Langston

Jim Neidhart - Jimmy Uso

Ultimate Warrior - Ryback

Rick Martel - Cody Rhodes

Tito Santana - Kofi Kingston

Honky Tonk Man - Heath Slater

Hulk Hogan - John Cena

Shawn Michaels - Tyson Kidd

Barbarian - Darren Young

Rick Rude - Antonio Cesaro

Hercules - Christian

Mr. Perfect - Dolph Ziggler




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Bret Hart = Jey Uso might be one of the greatest disservices to one of the biggest stars of the 1990s I've ever seen.*

(*Obviously, I get what you're doing, comparing the Hart Foundation as they were in 1990 and their spot on the card with the Usos today. It was just jarring to see.)

I do find this list pretty spot on.

(edited by John Orquiola on 22.1.13 1325)

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I think Bret Hart and Daniel Bryan is the better fit. Some good comps though.
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I greatly wanted to do the Daniel Bryan/Bret Hart comparison, but I was going based on where they are in the card. In 1990, The Hart Foundation were a mid-card face tag team. The only mid-card face tag teams now are The Usos and Kidd/Gabriel, and Kidd/Gabriel are the high flyers, thus they're The Rockers. Hell No is the top face tag team, so they become Demolition.

I miss plain old kick-ass tag teams like Demolition or the Powers of Pain. Just two big dudes who are there to fuck you up. There is nobody like that now, except for maybe Ryback.

I guess what I'm trying to say is wrestling needs more kick ass guys wearing face paint :)



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Man, it really puts it into stark contrast how much better 1990 WWF (also a PG-rated endeavour) was at creating distinct 'characters' than the modern-day company, eh? Say what you will about gimmicks or character hooks, but they definitely make the wrestlers stick out more in your mind.



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You did a great job. I like your list, and idea.



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Make the Hart Foundation into Team Hell No and you win.

(edited by lotjx on 22.1.13 1653)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.95
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Bret Hart = Jey Uso might be one of the greatest disservices to one of the biggest stars of the 1990s I've ever seen.


Does that mean that Stu Hart = Rikishi?
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#10 Posted on
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Make the Hart Foundation into Team Hell No and you win.

    (edited by lotjx on 22.1.13 1653)


Then who is Demolition??



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    Originally posted by MonteCarl
      Originally posted by lotjx
      Make the Hart Foundation into Team Hell No and you win.

      (edited by lotjx on 22.1.13 1653)


    Then who is Demolition??


Who the fuck cares? Honestly, you could make that the USO Brothers.



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    Originally posted by lotjx
      Originally posted by MonteCarl
        Originally posted by lotjx
        Make the Hart Foundation into Team Hell No and you win.

        (edited by lotjx on 22.1.13 1653)


      Then who is Demolition??


    Who the fuck cares?



Those who know a little bit about tag teams in the WWF in early 1990?

Demolition were a huge deal back then! A few weeks after the Royal Rumble they became the (then) first ever three-time tag team champs in history by defeating Andre The Giant (!) and Haku at Wrestlemania (!).



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.76
You could slot The Shield in as Demolition and then that would make room for Hell No as the Hart Foundation.

Typing this up made me realize that I want them to change their name to "Hell Yes" and have them be Steve Austin's enforcers.



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MonteCarl
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In my list, I was trying to keep with the face/heel lines as well. With Demolition as the top face tag team, that's why I slotted them as Hell No.

Either way, this was just something I did for fun to spark a little conversation. Obviously nothing to get upset or angry over. :)



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