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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
Seriously. Nothing? *I* have to start the thread a day later...

I think this episode was better than the Paintball episode... yeah... I said it.

And I have to say... if Small-freakin'ville gets a weekly thread, but NOT Community.... something is not right with the world. At all. Period.
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#2 Posted on
As the guy who started almost all the NBC Thursday night comedy threads last season, I'll explain the reason I stopped was I got bored of saying "I loved this joke, I loved that joke, this show is great!"

If you want a Community thread so much, go ahead and start one every week. What, you shouldn't have to start one?

Justin's already busted out the racist prover joke on Facebook and other threads, but that's also my favorite joke of the episode. (See? "This was my favorite joke." Boring.)

I never would have guessed Miss Piggy or Peggy Fleming. (Because I am a Chang-proven racist.)

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have Smallville thread to start.

(edited by John Orquiola on 30.10.10 0609)

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Now, if you'll excuse me, I have Smallville thread to start.


My fiancé loves this show... so...

And the fact that he doesn't fly or wear the suit makes me think of this (youtube.com)
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.72
Is there a blog or site that tracks all the references each week? I saw several this week which made me wonder if I had missed any.

Oh and why couldn't George Takeoff have made that voicemail greeting with MY name? That would have ruled!

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.95
I used to love this show. Then it went and got too cute with it's praise and totally changed it's style, I can't see this show going another season as it is currently constructed. This was a terrible episode, and really it's become a waste of what looked to be a really good series.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.81
I thought this episode was great! Not as good as "Modern Warfare" from last year but still pretty damn good.

My fear is that it may be too smart, too inside for the masses (yes I know how elitist that sounds). I'm starting to get Arrested Development concerns and that would upset me greatly.




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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
I miss the Thursday threads too but I'm in the same boat as John. Once we'd fully established that Community and Parks were the new best things in the world, there wasn't much left for me to write about them week-in week-out other than "I laughed a bunch at THIS."

Are they doing too many high concept gimmick episodes? I dunno. Dan Harmon said in an interview that he wanted to do more of them this season because they were the most ambitious and got the most attention, but that in order for them to exist, he had to balance them out with lots of character-driven content in the regular episodes. I thought Epidemiology was incredibly funny, but the notion that the entire Greendale campus came close to dying and the Dean was on the verge of being murdered by the Army did make me feel weird, kind of like the Arrested episode when Iraq was almost invaded because of a picture of Tobias' testicles.

    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Is there a blog or site that tracks all the references each week? I saw several this week which made me wonder if I had missed any.


My favorite callback was Chang returning to "YA BIT! YA BIT!"

    Originally posted by General Zod
    My fear is that it may be too smart, too inside for the masses (yes I know how elitist that sounds). I'm starting to get Arrested Development concerns and that would upset me greatly.


Welp. Outsourced is kind of successful and this kind of isn't. So.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.55
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I used to love this show. Then it went and got too cute with it's praise and totally changed it's style, I can't see this show going another season as it is currently constructed. This was a terrible episode, and really it's become a waste of what looked to be a really good series.


I've generally enjoyed this season, but I kind of agree. The premiere was the only real A-plus episode of the bunch thus far. The rest have been okay, but have featured some odd character regression (Jeff seemingly becoming distant again, Annie wanting to transfer out of Greendale, Abed becoming almost totally meta-driven) and somewhat uninteresting premises.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.48
This episode was awesome; last week's was the total opposite. My problem with the show as a whole is this: Shirley should never, ever say the word "meta." Let me expand that by saying Abed should be the *only* person allowed to say the word "meta," and sparingly.



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#10 Posted on
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    This episode was awesome; last week's was the total opposite.


I concur. Last week's episode did not humble me. First episode of Community ever I Did Not Like At All.

To add my two cents to the debate between this season and last season, I also feel this season is wildly uneven with the show becoming far too premise-driven and the characters not behaving as themselves whenever the plot requires. Jeff had a line in one of the first couple of episodes akin to: "Have you noticed how much more cartoony this place is getting?" Yes, and not in a good way. Last season's level of cartoony vs. reality was perfect. The reality of the series and the characters was like a rubber band that pulled the show back whenever it went in wild directions, but there are signs the rubber band is starting to get stretched out.

EDIT: I just read that Dan Harmon interview in The Onion A/V Club Justin liked to. I'm looking forward the heavy character stuff he talked to balance out these "paintball level" episodes of the zombie attack and KFC space ship.

(edited by John Orquiola on 30.10.10 1350)


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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.95
I loved so many things about this episode, but I still liked Paintball better.

1) The Zombie Apocalypse set to ABBA.
2) "What is up with that cat?!?" "Is someone throwing it?!?"
3) When Zombie Jeff 'awakened' and continued to behave exactly the same.
4) Zombie Annie studying.
5) I'd write more but I'm suffering from SLLLLUUUUUUURRRRRRRRREDDDDDDDDDDD SSSSSPPPPPPPPEEEEEECCHHHHHHHH.




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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    Last season's level of cartoony vs. reality was perfect. The reality of the series and the characters was like a rubber band that pulled the show back whenever it went in wild directions, but there are signs the rubber band is starting to get stretched out.


I didn't like this episode, for that reason. It streched too far into cartoony. I didn't expect the paintball episode to be a dream sequence, but I was sure something like that had to happen this time. The Dean just happened to buy taco meat which not only wasn't labeled taco meat but happened to turn everyone into Zombies? Everyone got bit or bit someone, and not only do they wakeup with no memory of it happening, but I guess the bite marks are all cleared up too?

Paintball had the five second bit of people cleaning up the next day, this one just waved a hand past it and that was that. (Except for the the ending bit.)

I don't really get the Zombie craze too and was hoping it'd be over by now. But besides that, this felt like they just wanted to do a zombie episode and weren't much worried about it making sense.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.72
    Originally posted by whatever
    I loved so many things about this episode, but I still liked Paintball better.

    1) The Zombie Apocalypse set to ABBA.
    2) "What is up with that cat?!?" "Is someone throwing it?!?"
    3) When Zombie Jeff 'awakened' and continued to behave exactly the same.
    4) Zombie Annie studying.
    5) I'd write more but I'm suffering from SLLLLUUUUUUURRRRRRRR‚ÄčREDDDDDDDDDDD SSSSSPPPPPPPPEEEEEECCHHHHHHHH.
All this. Seriously, that's my list. Every time I started paying attention to the background, I laughed my ass off.
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      Last season's level of cartoony vs. reality was perfect. The reality of the series and the characters was like a rubber band that pulled the show back whenever it went in wild directions, but there are signs the rubber band is starting to get stretched out.


    I didn't like this episode, for that reason. It streched too far into cartoony. I didn't expect the paintball episode to be a dream sequence, but I was sure something like that had to happen this time. The Dean just happened to buy taco meat which not only wasn't labeled taco meat but happened to turn everyone into Zombies? Everyone got bit or bit someone, and not only do they wakeup with no memory of it happening, but I guess the bite marks are all cleared up too?

    Paintball had the five second bit of people cleaning up the next day, this one just waved a hand past it and that was that. (Except for the the ending bit.)

    I don't really get the Zombie craze too and was hoping it'd be over by now. But besides that, this felt like they just wanted to do a zombie episode and weren't much worried about it making sense.
Well, everyone had serious bandages on their bodies, right? (I can't remember for sure the credits sequence, but we got a triage sequence post-Army, right?)



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.19
I've watched the episode a few times - I still think it is pretty great.

    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Everyone got bit or bit someone, and not only do they wakeup with no memory of it happening, but I guess the bite marks are all cleared up too?


I guess you could argue that everyone woke up just a little too okay with being mass roofied and with bite marks all over their bodies.

    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I thought Epidemiology was incredibly funny, but the notion that the entire Greendale campus came close to dying and the Dean was on the verge of being murdered by the Army did make me feel weird,


See, the first time I watched the episode, I thought they were going for a Men In Black mind easer flashy thing - I didn't see the butt of the gun until I watched it again. That was kind of f'd up.

I don't know - I guess I understand where people are coming from when they talk about the cartoony nature of the show (it did remind me of the early Simpson's Halloween episodes) - but I'm just not all that interested in the whole love-triangle stuff - and I think both Community and P&R are better off with not pursuing those storyline directly. Sure, *some* character development is nice, but just make it funny (ala the Drew Carey-Rob Corddry episode - and even that didn't really shed any new ground character-wise).

And I'll even take it so far as to say that Troy being the hero was a bit of a nod to Modern Warfare in which he was the first one eliminated. THAT'S the kind of stuff I really like about the show.

EDIT: Also, the Wilhelm Scream when Troy re-entered the building and punched one of the zombies.

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.95
    Originally posted by General Zod
    My fear is that it may be too smart, too inside for the masses (yes I know how elitist that sounds). I'm starting to get Arrested Development concerns and that would upset me greatly.



I don't think it's anywhere near Arrested Development level, in humor or in quality. Early on I thought this show had a shot at being that clever, but then they went to anything goes and here we are. AD was one long running joke with characters that were outlandish, but they all stayed within their realm.

Community feels more like how many pop culture references can we squeeze into one episode. Obviously this works for a lot of people and probably a lot of people here judging by the Transformer Raw threads and the early acclaim for Matt Striker.

Last year's Halloween episode was fantastic and original, this years was more like a live action episode of Family Guy. So, yeah maybe the show has drifted away from me, I wouldn't say it's because it got to smart. I get the jokes I just don't think they're that funny anymore.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.45
I respect the opinions of many (most, even!) people on this board, but having said that I think a lot of the naysayers are going a little overboard. If you have beef with Community in general, fine. Personally I don't agree as I think Community is the funniest show on television, but to each his own.

However, if you have beef with Community because they did a throw-away episode... about zombies... for HALLOWEEN... then I think maybe you are finding trends where there are none.

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#17 Posted on
Just to clarify, I thought the zombie episode was really good and perfect for Halloween and as a send up of zombie movies.

Abed to Troy: "You'll be the first black guy to make it through to the end."

I think, for me at least, three back to back wacky premise shows - KFC space ship, Abed as Jesus, zombies - may have been a bit too much (of a good/bad thing. Your milage will vary.)

Six episodes into season 2, any tacit declarations of Community jumping the shark are ridiculous. The show is still young and mega funny. Myself, I just miss the focus on the characters in lieu of the wackiness.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.81
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    I don't think it's anywhere near Arrested Development level, in humor or in quality.


I don't either, but that's because Arrested Development's level of detail and effort is pretty much impossible to match. I do think Community is the funniest show going today, and there are a lot of similarities to the spirit of AD. Aside from AD's performances being more reserved, they're both extremely self-reflexive, reference-based, and interested in sitcom tropes and history. And there was a tonal shift from Arrested season 1 to 2 too where it became a broader world and more of a live action cartoon, just an extremely smart cartoon.


    Myself, I just miss the focus on the characters in lieu of the wackiness.


I don't even mind the wackiness. I've really liked the two big premise/movie episodes. I'd just prefer them as special events over the course of the season, so two in three weeks within the first third of the season felt like too much, if that's the same pace they're going to occur all year. (Plus I think the other concept episodes went to much greater lengths to justify them happening as plausible events in the real world of Greendale beyond "magic meat"/"this never happened.")

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
There was a Dead Rising reference, with Jeff throwing a soccer ball at the "zombie's" head ... and that's good enough for me.





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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.86
I loved it. I thought it was a great Halloween themed episode and left it at that. I did not read too much into it (the Army esp.) because I treat Seasonal themed episodes of any shows as throw aways that usually have no link to the remainder of the season.

I still hail this as the funniest show on TV. But humor is subjective. For me, any sitcom that can get me to laugh out loud a couple of times a show is gold.

I even liked last weeks episode because it made Abed realize his boundries. I was glad that they had him acknowledge how crappy his movie was. It was not the best, but still I laughed. And I loved the last two scenes, the first where the professors yells, "OK now, you might as well open your textbook because Abed has broken the Internet" and the final scene where Abed and Troy come dressed as Jeff and copy him word for word. That was awesome!



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