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Tenken347
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
Sorry I took my time putting this up. Been a bit busy lately.

Starlord #3: Starlord continues to be the best of the Conquest minis. The best thing they're doing with this series is continuing to make me guess at who is going to survive. This issue features a couple bait & switches, which some people make take issue with, but I enjoyed them.

Cable & Deadpool #45: Deadpool and Bob are sent back in time to fight Arnim Zola alongside Captain America and Bucky. It's a good issue, and it takes some time to explore some of Deadpool's self-worth issues, which I always enjoy. I only have one problem with the issue. I thought Zola was completely human during the war, and his classic face-inside-a-viewscreen-on-his-chest appearance was a post-war thing. Maybe I'm wrong.

Avengers Initiative #6: Okay, you really can see who attacked Gauntlet coming a mile away. My favorite part of the issue, though, is Justice explaining exactly how he would have attacked Gauntlet, and letting the MPs spend all their time checking out his story. Justice is a great character.

Iron Fist #9: Iron Fist spends most of this issue getting his face mashed in by Fat Cobra, then he takes off to discover the secrets of Orson Randall. Which he does in...

Iron Fist Annual #1: Which is a very fun piece of pulp storytelling. We honestly don't learn that much about Randall, but it's a fun read and the mix of art styles in the book is pretty cool.

X-Men #203: It's a good thing that the Marauders are going to be players in Messiah Complex, because this arc did not deliver the one thing I really wanted from a Marauders story: The Angel beating the hell out of the men who once crippled him. That said, Iceman and Cannonball do a pretty good job here, even if they go down a bit easier than I think they ought to have. Certainly, with all the water around them, Iceman should have been almost unstoppable, even after his run-in with Sinister.

Uncanny X-Men #491: Storm has not been a good character in about 15 years. In this issue, Storm is awesome. That's really all that needs to be said here.

Sub-Mariner #4: After last issue's surprising strong showing for Venom, the rest of his fight with Namor goes exactly as expected. He is just not in Namor's league. The issue ends with the reveal of who is behind the coup, although since he's in disguise I'm not quite sure if it's who I think it is.

Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
I think it's supposed to be Lyron, of Fathom Five, Namor's half-Deviant son.
I could be wrong about that one, too.

Detective Comics #837: I don't normally read Batman comics, but like all right-thinking people I loved Batman the Animated Series. In this issue, Paul Dini (one of the chief writers for that show, if you didn't know that) writes a story where Bruce Wayne hires the Riddler, who joins forces with Harley Quinn, to solve a mystery. That's just fantastic.

Atom #16: Eh, this issue wasn't bad for a one-off story, but it didn't have anything that would bring me back for more. Xotar, who I believe was the Justice League's first foe, turns the people of Ivy Town into hippies. If that sounds like it's up your alley, the issue is as good in all other regards as any other in the series.

Lobster Johnson - the Iron Prometheus #2: I'm not sure what I can say about this issue. Lobster fights Nazi mystics and Nazi robots and Nazi cultists. He did that last issue, and I'm pretty sure he'll do it next issue as well. It's fun, but I'm not expecting anything terribly fresh from the series.

Gumby #3: This issue seems a little bit more age-appropriate than the last issue. Which is not to say that it's less fun. In this issue, Gumby does battle with cannibal salesmen, a giant angry porkchop, and an Indian named Geronimo. There's just a lot less here that I think would confuse a smaller child. The series really seems like something that, if I had children (don't concentrate on that thought for too long), would be something I would read to them and we could all enjoy. I'm really looking forward to the next issue, where Gumby is kicked out of school because he has restless leg syndrome, and is forced to investigate the House of Bloggers.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
This month's Detective Comics left a little something to be desired, but that can't be said for Dini's run at-large. If you're interested in the rest of his run, pick up the trade that's in stores. It's worth the price of admission for the one-shot in which Robin gets taken on "Mr. Joker's Wild Ride".

I've been very, VERY down on Dini's Countdown recently, but last week's issue is worth it for the origin of Zod. Kneel before this origin!

Agreed that it wasn't a matter of if, but a matter of how gruesomely Namor would dispatch Venom. EEEEEYOWTCH!!!

EDIT: I seriously can't believe I forgot to recommend the Tales of the Sinestro Corps one-shots. The Cyborg Superman issue, in particular, is a must-have for those not well-versed on the Cyborg's origins, but also a must-read just to see the Cyborg hand Big Blue his ass.

(edited by It's False on 9.10.07 1523)



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
How could you skip HOWARD THE DUCK?

I'm gonna take a guess and say you missed out on the GROO 30TH anniversary issue as well from two weeks ago.

Most of the X-Books have been kinda crappy for a while, with the exception of X-FACTOR. I have been reading the whole Beast storyline, cause I like him, but I just can't seem to get into it.I don't see it leading to anything and it's just feels like a waste of time, but damnit, I'll stick with it until the end.



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Tenken347
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by Cerebus
    Most of the X-Books have been kinda crappy for a while, with the exception of X-FACTOR. I have been reading the whole Beast storyline, cause I like him, but I just can't seem to get into it.I don't see it leading to anything and it's just feels like a waste of time, but damnit, I'll stick with it until the end.


How long have you been reading the X-Books for? I ask because, if you think the books are crappy now, you must have missed a lot of bad years of X-books. Clairemont's second run, Chuck Austin, Grant Morrison (a lot of people really, really, really liked his run, but I thought he almost totally ruined the X-Men. It's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.), Clairemont's third run (on X-treme X-men), The Twelve, I really could go on, and I haven't even mentioned books like the second Excalibur series (Clairemont again). This is literally the best the X-books have been since Onslaught happened, which was like ten years ago. Personally, I like both Brubaker and Carey's runs, but both seemed a bit rushed, probably so that they could get to Messiah Complex on time.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
    Originally posted by Tenken347
    How long have you been reading the X-Books for? I ask because, if you think the books are crappy now, you must have missed a lot of bad years of X-books. Clairemont's second run, Chuck Austin, Grant Morrison (a lot of people really, really, really liked his run, but I thought he almost totally ruined the X-Men. It's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.), Clairemont's third run (on X-treme X-men), The Twelve, I really could go on, and I haven't even mentioned books like the second Excalibur series (Clairemont again). This is literally the best the X-books have been since Onslaught happened, which was like ten years ago. Personally, I like both Brubaker and Carey's runs, but both seemed a bit rushed, probably so that they could get to Messiah Complex on time.


(I looked at your profile cause I really wanted to use this line on someone and YOU give me the opportunity to do it... THANKS!)

Kid, I've been reading X-MEN since before you were even BORN! Believe me, I remember the bad (pretty much the ENTIRE ninties! Eve Of Destruction! Marrow and Maggot! STACY X!) along with the good (Extinction Agenda? X-Force with Pete Wisdom? Most of Generation X?). I've seen them bring in writers and artists both good (Lobdell & Bachalo, John Byrne's HIDDEN YEARS, Peter Milligan's X-Force/X-statix) and bad (Liefeld! Joe Casey! HOWARD (fucking) Mackie!!).

I like both the current writers. Mike Carey's LUCIFER is an EXCELLENT series and Brubaker's BOOKS OF DOOM is quite enjoyable.

Having said this, I just don't think either of thier's writing styles fit the X-Books.

I felt MUTANT GENESIS was way overblown and slapped together making no sense and Careys XMEN work hasn't really done anything for me.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.88
I just want to second that comment about Morrison's run on New X-Men being way, way awful. I hadn't been reading comics for a while, but heard great things about this title, so I bought the big hardback collection of it. The characters looked like X-Men (except for Beast. I'll never forgive them for making him look like a damn lion), but they didn't act like the X-Men. It really felt to me like Morrison already had a story plotted out and just changed the character names to X-Men names. I really couldn't have been happier when they started retconning his whole run as soon as he left.

I'm reading his run on Batman, because its Batman. It hasn't thrilled me, but I haven't been turned off by it, either. But really, I just don't get all the love for Morrison.
Tenken347
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.03
    Originally posted by Caliban
    I just want to second that comment about Morrison's run on New X-Men being way, way awful. I hadn't been reading comics for a while, but heard great things about this title, so I bought the big hardback collection of it. The characters looked like X-Men (except for Beast. I'll never forgive them for making him look like a damn lion), but they didn't act like the X-Men. It really felt to me like Morrison already had a story plotted out and just changed the character names to X-Men names. I really couldn't have been happier when they started retconning his whole run as soon as he left.

    I'm reading his run on Batman, because its Batman. It hasn't thrilled me, but I haven't been turned off by it, either. But really, I just don't get all the love for Morrison.



THANK YOU. That is exactly what I thought when I read it, and it's nice to finally hear someone have the same opinion.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
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Cerebus
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.48
    Originally posted by It's False
    I'd just like to note for those who took the "wait-and-see" approach on Black Canary/Green Arrow, it's looks like it's confirmed. Ollie's dead...again. The Green Arrow in Black Canary/Green Arrow is Connor Hawke.

    It speaks volumes about Judd Winick's alleged skill as a writer that he butchered a character so bad that said character needed to be killed off less than a decade after he was resurrected.

    What baffles me about it is that there's been plenty of Ollie exposure over the past few years when you look at the Ollie's inclusion in Smallville and the upcoming prison flick set to center on the character. So of course now is the best time to kill him. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

    (edited by It's False on 11.10.07 1245)

(Not to steal the thread here, but...)
I take it you haven't actually READ the book yet, have you. You might want to read in and then delete this post.

...I'm just saying.



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