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| #1 Posted on 17.5.11 2005.11 | Instant Rating: 9.85 | ...oh, but they traded that pick. Oops.
The results: 1. Cleveland (from LAC) +++++++ 2. Minnesota - 3. Utah (from NJN) ++++ 4. Cleveland -- 5. Toronto -- 6. Washington -- 7. Sacramento -- 8. Detroit - 9. Charlotte 10. Milwaukee 11. Golden State 12. Utah 13. Phoenix 14. Houston
Cleveland had a 2.8% at #1 with the Clippers' pick (19.9% with their own, but it moved down two).
This is the highest the Timberwolves have ever picked and, consequently, the lowest that their "pay the pick" gimmick season tickets will have ever been ($86 - not bad for bad seats!)
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| #2 Posted on 17.5.11 2011.40 | Instant Rating: 9.04 | The Clippers failing to include a #1 protection on that pick is such a typical Clippers move that it's pointless to even joke about it.
Honestly, I'd be more outraged about it, but it isn't like there's anyone worthy of being a #1 pick anyway.
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| #3 Posted on 17.5.11 2155.27 | This is the first year watching the Draft Lottery where they explained it in a way that made any sense to me, as far as how the ping pong ball process works.
Congrats Cleveland, the first and fourth overall picks....and it's highly likely that this #1 won't go on to star in "The Decision Part Deux" so you have that to look forward to.
Is it too soon to think of Wolves' President David Khan as the Elgin Baylor of our generation? Or do we need to wait 'til he drafts another point guard?
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| #4 Posted on 17.5.11 2216.45 | Instant Rating: 5.96 | Originally posted by Packman V2
Is it too soon to think of Wolves' President David Khan as the Elgin Baylor of our generation? Or do we need to wait 'til he drafts another point guard?
That is awfully generous comparing Khan to Baylor. Elgin was a legend in Secaucus. They even had Elgin Baylor Day Parade's to mark the lottery. Now, had Isiah Thomas stayed with the Knicks, he would have made a serious run at Elgin, assuming he ever went a year without trading his picks. The Clippers PR campaign on losing the #1 pick: Hey, we got rid of Baron Davis, it was well worth it. | Rudoublesedoublel
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| #5 Posted on 18.5.11 0935.13 | Instant Rating: 6.00 | He won't be the #1 pick, but Enes Kanter will make some team (and fanbase) very, very happy.
Watching clips of his workouts have made me and every other Kentucky fan sad that he was never eligible to play NCAA ball. Big man with an unrelenting motor and a great jumper. He'll be very good.
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| #6 Posted on 18.5.11 1034.38 | Instant Rating: 9.72 | Should Cleveland find a way to trade it and maybe end up with three #1s this year or two this year and one more the next?
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| #7 Posted on 18.5.11 1132.29 | Instant Rating: 6.66 | Originally posted by DrDirt Should Cleveland find a way to trade it and maybe end up with three #1s this year or two this year and one more the next?
This strategy might work if there was one uber-star that everyone wanted at #1, but this is a pretty weak draft year overall. I guess the first pick is Irving, almost by process of elimination, and I can't see any team moving up to get him.
(Although, the T-Wolves do love their point guards. And, David Kahn is indeed an idiot: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/David-Kahn-hints-at-lottery-malfeasance-remains?urn=nba-wp3409 )
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| #8 Posted on 18.5.11 1142.11 | Instant Rating: 3.53 | | Whatever the Cavs do with the picks, they will be taking their talents to South Beach in 5 to 8 years. | whatever
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| #9 Posted on 18.5.11 1226.48 | Thanks, Clippers! Great to see Bernie, Cribbs, and Haden there with Gilbert for the lottery. So far, the consensus 'round town is Irving at #1 and maybe Jonas Valanciunas at #4.
This and the Tribe's hot start have definitely perked things up 'round here this Spring.
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| #10 Posted on 19.5.11 0241.31 | Instant Rating: 3.06 | So, how the hell did the Clippers not include a first-pick or top-three protection on this pick? Isn't that kinda thing standard operating procedure? Or are they really just that stupid?
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| #11 Posted on 19.5.11 0958.27 | Instant Rating: 8.51 | Originally posted by ekedolphin So, how the hell did the Clippers not include a first-pick or top-three protection on this pick? Isn't that kinda thing standard operating procedure? Or are they really just that stupid?
Your question is a trap, because if the Clippers were dumb enough to not include Top 3 protection then they'd be dumb enough to screw up their selection if they kept it.
What were the odds of going from eight to one? Low enough it was worth trading Baron Davis away.
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| #12 Posted on 19.5.11 1009.31 | Instant Rating: 7.76 | Originally posted by ekedolphin So, how the hell did the Clippers not include a first-pick or top-three protection on this pick? Isn't that kinda thing standard operating procedure? Or are they really just that stupid?
Maybe the Cavs wouldn't have accepted it? The Clippers aren't allowed to unilaterally agree to trades with teams. I mean, why didn't they include a billion dollars in cash from Cleveland to LA? | hansen9j
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| #13 Posted on 19.5.11 1044.35 | Instant Rating: 9.56 | It's clearly not THAT much of a SOP, since the Nets didn't protect their pick either.
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| #14 Posted on 19.5.11 1350.03 | Instant Rating: 9.04 | Originally posted by El Nastio What were the odds of going from eight to one? Low enough it was worth trading Baron Davis away.
Baron Davis was just starting to get back to his old self and once he realized what he had in Blake Griffin, he actually started to give a crap again. He really wasn't all that bad.
Trading him for Mo Williams felt like a push, but now that the #1 pick was thrown in, Cavs got the better of that deal. Mo Williams was not worth Baron Davis AND a #1.
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| #15 Posted on 19.5.11 1526.27 | Instant Rating: 8.51 | Originally posted by It's False
Originally posted by El Nastio What were the odds of going from eight to one? Low enough it was worth trading Baron Davis away.
Baron Davis was just starting to get back to his old self and once he realized what he had in Blake Griffin, he actually started to give a crap again. He really wasn't all that bad.
Trading him for Mo Williams felt like a push, but now that the #1 pick was thrown in, Cavs got the better of that deal. Mo Williams was not worth Baron Davis AND a #1.
Baron wasn't his "old self" because he was lazy. He had a couple of million reasons every year why he shouldn't need Dunkbot 3000 to be motivated.
So the Blakers get rid of someone who is only motivated when it pleases him and a terrible contract, and get in return another terrible contract, but one that is shorter.
On the surface, a great deal. And the odds were in their favor that they wouldn't have the #1 pick. The fact it became that doesn't change that, at the time, it was a good deal. And like someone else mentioned, the Nets did the same thing.
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