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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.59
Sad to see Candido go. Am somewhat surprised that he wasn't a drug death due to his past.
33 year old dies due to complications from an injury at the workplace. I don't think it is going to far out on the limb believing someone or many people are going to get sued. FLEA probably would know Florida law in terms of this. A question is whether the hospital/doctors are liable due to the complications. Even if so, that is what malpractice insurance is for.
Now, the problem in terms of a 2nd wrestling company: Due to their being in wrestling for so long, it is a safe presumption that any money the Jarrett's have is buried in coffee cans in the backyard so no one can get to it. However, does Universal Studios get sued due to an injury that resulted in death occurred on their premises? Even if a lawsuit gets filed and tossed out, does that lead to Universal pulling out just not to deal with the aggrevation? And, Panda Energy is a place that would have the money for someone to go after in a lawsuit. Much like Universal, and even more important, does the threat of a lawsuit cause Panda to jump out of the wrestling business?
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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.16
redsoxnation: Sad to see Candido go. Am somewhat surprised that he wasn't a drug death due to his past.
33 year old dies due to complications from an injury at the workplace. I don't think it is going to far out on the limb believing someone or many people are going to get sued. FLEA probably would know Florida law in terms of this. A question is whether the hospital/doctors are liable due to the complications. Even if so, that is what malpractice insurance is for.

Now, the problem in terms of a 2nd wrestling company: Due to their being in wrestling for so long, it is a safe presumption that any money the Jarrett's have is buried in coffee cans in the backyard so no one can get to it. However, does Universal Studios get sued due to an injury that resulted in death occurred on their premises? Even if a lawsuit gets filed and tossed out, does that lead to Universal pulling out just not to deal with the aggrevation? And, Panda Energy is a place that would have the money for someone to go after in a lawsuit. Much like Universal, and even more important, does the threat of a lawsuit cause Panda to jump out of the wrestling business?


Wreslters are independent contractors, unless otherwise (related to / married into the company) specified. That's a tough one to beat. After that, Florida is a "right to work" state. Even the unions go broke fighting that one. No lawsuit. Or a waste of time lawsuit, which most are. Saying "not a leg to stand on" is cruel, even by my Wrestling Dead Pool standards.

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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.67
I don't think that Universal would be involved in this. The injury itself wasn't life-threatening, and the cause of death (so far as anyone knows) is listed only as 'complications from surgery'. The original injury wasn't listed as a cause, or even side cause, so I would believe that they are in the clear even assuming that there aren't wavers galore signed by all wrestlers when they join.

On a related note, I know that he had gotten himself clean in the last little while, but how much damage did he do to his body over the years before that? Just because you stop partying so hard, it doesn't mean that your body recovers right away. It can take years. I'm sure that ups the chances of a problem with any type of surgery as well.

Too bad he's gone. Like someone else here said, I haven't seen him other that internet pictures since he left the WWF back way when. 33's certainly not old, and although too small for the WWE's upper card, I remember him as a solid performer. If he really did get his act together he could have had plenty of really productive years to have a successful career with TNA to go out on.


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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.19
Caught the last 40 minutes and was very shocked seeing that he passed away. I did not check the wrestling sites today, so IMPACT! was my first sight. The Heaven Wrestling League has a new addition to the roster.

We will miss you.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.16
How horrible must this be for Tammy Sytch? (obviously)

I mean, they've been together since their teens, and been through a shit-load together. I really hope that she has the strength to carry on in a positive fashion.

Someone mentioned Between the Ropes earlier and I remember listening to the show and thinking about how awesome of a story it was that Candido refused the drugs, true or not. I was also thinking about how hard it would be to be an indy wrestler with an injury. What the hell do you do?

Anyway, for some reason this wrestling death has bugged me more than any other since Owen Hart. Shitty stuff...

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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
I wasn't sure if WWE would do a write up about it on the website, but they did...I'm really just still speechless since this broke yesterday, I mean I wasn't a big fan of the guy by any means, but knowing he's passing like many said, after he looked like he had battled his demons just seems so unfair. He looked like he was having fun in TNA, and then in an instant it's gone. Sometimes it sucks being a wrestling fan, because lately, so many of the guys you grow up watching don't make a long life out of it, and go way too soon, always leaving the question what might have been. From guys you idolized, to guys you didn't really like, it seems like every wrestling death hits home a little bit.

Once again, condolences to his family, if anything, when we go, there will be one helluva wrestling promotion in the afterlife.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.88
Candido was one of my faves when he came up. I thought he'd be a big star.
Like others, I liked his ECW work.
Like, his entrance was so cool. With the strut on the ring apron, it was so cool.
This is a really sad thing and just cruel irony.
He loved wrestling so much.
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
A couple of people here have mentioned lawsuits and liability, but I have to wonder if that's really valid. I wonder if the fact that Chris checked himself out early, and apparently was concerned about drugs, may had led to the complications. Maybe he inadvertently refused to take a drug that would help with the blood clotting. Or maybe he didn't allow for the normal observation time that could have caught the problem before he ever left the hospital.

I can't say for sure, but just wanted to throw out some other possibilities other than just assuming it was the doctor's fault.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.06
    Originally posted by ges7184
    A couple of people here have mentioned lawsuits and liability, but I have to wonder if that's really valid. I wonder if the fact that Chris checked himself out early, and apparently was concerned about drugs, may had led to the complications. Maybe he inadvertently refused to take a drug that would help with the blood clotting. Or maybe he didn't allow for the normal observation time that could have caught the problem before he ever left the hospital.

    I can't say for sure, but just wanted to throw out some other possibilities other than just assuming it was the doctor's fault.


I'm not sure a blood clot is even detectable until it kills you.



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.88
Question for the legally schooled out there: Might TNA be at fault? He did die from complications resulting from a stunt gone wrong in their ring.
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.38
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Question for the legally schooled out there: Might TNA be at fault? He did die from complications resulting from a stunt gone wrong in their ring.


No, no, no! 1000% NO! When you start wrestling "YOU" know or assume the risks. If you are 18 or older you can walk into any wrestling school to start training. Injury comes with this profession.

He'd been doing it since he was in high school if you remember when the WWE(F) or was it PWI before they were stars? Anyways, one of the magazines, it had Sunny(Tammy) and Skip(Chris) featured with pictures dating back to there prom and high school days.

Wow...talk about a shocker. It just continues to show how fragile life is...one minute you're here the next you're gone. Wisked away to take that eternal celestial dirt.

If somebody deserved to die I wouldn't wish on Chris Candido. In fact I don't wish it on my worst enemy. If that tells you anything about my mentality.

RIP Chris Candido

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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.13
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Question for the legally schooled out there: Might TNA be at fault? He did die from complications resulting from a stunt gone wrong in their ring.


I think, as someone said before, Wrestlers are typically independent contractors and, if they have it, maintain their own disability/dismemberment insurance (I think we can all recall Curt Hennig's policy and its restrictions on him for many years). Chris didn't do more than the typical performer does, and obviously, they agree to it. I'd guess the answer is no.





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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.58
    Originally posted by Kevintripod
      Originally posted by ges7184
      A couple of people here have mentioned lawsuits and liability, but I have to wonder if that's really valid. I wonder if the fact that Chris checked himself out early, and apparently was concerned about drugs, may had led to the complications. Maybe he inadvertently refused to take a drug that would help with the blood clotting. Or maybe he didn't allow for the normal observation time that could have caught the problem before he ever left the hospital.

      I can't say for sure, but just wanted to throw out some other possibilities other than just assuming it was the doctor's fault.


    I'm not sure a blood clot is even detectable until it kills you.


All depends on where the clot is. I've got a friend who, when he was 24 or 25, noticed that his leg was starting to swell up. Took him to the emergency room and they discovered the clot. They told him then that if he hadn't come in and had it checked out, he wouldn't have made it through the night. It's easy to get a clot that is never detected until it's too late. It's all luck...
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    Wreslters are independent contractors, unless otherwise (related to / married into the company) specified. That's a tough one to beat.


It might be a different case this time, as TNA had been talking about giving it's wrestlers health insurance at various times, and I thought they got it at one point. At the same time, there's been notes about TNA shorting people on pay, and it wouldn't be surpising if they cut insurance before they cut payoffs.

The situation will probably work itself out before long.



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.72
I work on an orthopedics floor where we see lots of broken ankles, legs, hips, etc. The main thing they do is assess for a prior history of clotting problems, and if any of the indicators are met, the patient is placed on a blood thinning agent, typically a drug called Coumidin or one called Heparin. If Candido was at the hospital and had surgery, regardless of his drug abuse past, the Doctor who was the attending is responsible for determining his need for anticoagulant therapy.

AND, a doctor will NOT typically skip over pain meds solely based on patient history of drug abuse, but, instead will order a theraputic dose of painkillers administered via a PCA machine which gives a monitored dose, and will not allow for the patient to become 'high' on the pain killers. In fact if the patient shows signs of overmedication, the nurse will generally contact the doctor and have the dosage lowered.

That being said, if ANYBODY gets a lawsuit, it isnt TNA or Universal, its the hospital and the attending physician, and even then, if the patient leaves AMA (Against Medical Advice) they are required to sign paperwork releasing the hospital from liability if further injury, illness or death which may occur.

(edited by StaggerLee on 30.4.05 1759)
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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.19
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    I work on an orthopedics floor where we see lots of broken ankles, legs, hips, etc. The main thing they do is assess for a prior history of clotting problems, and if any of the indicators are met, the patient is placed on a blood thinning agent, typically a drug called Coumidin or one called Heparin. If Candido was at the hospital and had surgery, regardless of his drug abuse past, the Doctor who was the attending is responsible for determining his need for anticoagulant therapy.

    AND, a doctor will NOT typically skip over pain meds solely based on patient history of drug abuse, but, instead will order a theraputic dose of painkillers administered via a PCA machine which gives a monitored dose, and will not allow for the patient to become 'high' on the pain killers. In fact if the patient shows signs of overmedication, the nurse will generally contact the doctor and have the dosage lowered.

    That being said, if ANYBODY gets a lawsuit, it isnt TNA or Universal, its the hospital and the attending physician, and even then, if the patient leaves AMA (Against Medical Advice) they are required to sign paperwork releasing the hospital from liability if further injury, illness or death which may occur.

    (edited by StaggerLee on 30.4.05 1759)


Sorry, but talk of lawsuits against surgeons in a case like this really winds me up. Shit happens.

On British consent forms (which legally must be signed before theatre) the risks of the procedure are listed and the patient has to sign to indicate that they are aware of the risks and wish the surgeon to proceed. For pretty much every procedure, the "standard" risks are infection, excessive bleeding and deep vein thrombosis. In a culture so excessively litigious, I would be amazed if the same isn't true of US practice. StaggerLee?
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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.72
Oh absolutely, everybody signs a consent before surgery, however, teh lawyers in this country sue anyway and a lot of the time, win, despite the facts. But, thats another discussion for another time.
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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.07
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Oh absolutely, everybody signs a consent before surgery, however, the lawyers in this country sue anyway and a lot of the time, win, despite the facts.


Kinda like pre-nuptial marriage agreements.....most of the time their not worth the paper their printed on.



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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.55
This a tough one to take. I really enjoyed his early work in Smoky Mountain just as much as anything else later. From all reports, it sounds like he'd straightened everything out. It doesn't seem like much of a payoff. Guess I'm just a bit down thinking about it, forgive me.
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