Originally posted by BigDaddyLocoThis is on the Observer site, ESPN has something similar on it's as well ...
Originally posted by The ObserverA Fox News Channel report said that records obtained by investigators show that between May 2006 and May 2007, Dr. Phil Astin prescribed Chris Benoit "a ten month supply of steroids" every three to four weeks. The report stated that every three to four weeks, Benoit would get a new ten-month supply.
If true this is just insane. How was he able to keep the cool, calm demeener everyone talked about and how the hell was he passing any kind of test?
This is one of the things Vince had to fear the most. Maybe these amounts are more common among this sort of crowd than I think. I sure wouldn't want to be this doctor.
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Dr. Astin has been charged with improperly dispensing drugs to patients.
Given what he apparently did for Benoit, I imagine this was a pretty easy call to make for the DA. Well that, and the fact that he had written prescriptions for "about 1 million doses of controlled substances over the past two years." Yikes!
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Originally posted by cranlsnYeah, I get that, but I thought the prescription excuse only covered the presence of steroids up to their existing "baseline". If so, how high was the baseline to cover that kind of usage?
I am under the impression that it was 10-to-1 without a prescription, but if you HAD a prescription you could be a a billion-to-1 and still be OK, by the letter of the law.
Holy fuck shit motherfucker shit. Read comics. Fuck shit shit fuck shit I sold out when I did my job. Fuck fuck fuck shit fuck. Sorry had to do it....
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Originally posted by JustinShapiroBelieve it or not, the crossface story actually is in the Observer. Well, sort of. It says he police's belief is that Daniel was killed with "something approximating the crippler crossface," because they were perplexed by the bruising on Daniel since it wasn't consistent with choking someone with your hands, whereas the bruising on Daniel was on his arm and face. Then someone saw footage of Benoit doing the crossface and realized the bruising patterns matched the application of the hold.
Here's what I don't get. Last week I actually considered that Benoit might have used his finisher, but decided that he must not have because the police were calling it a "choke hold". The crossface--even the modified version theorized by the police--pulls the head back by applying pressure to the, well, face. Now, I have no doubt that a grown man could kill a child with the hold, but wouldn't it have broken Daniel's neck before it asphyxiated him?
Guys, something "approximating" the crossface could also be a sleeper hold, or any variation of a sleeper/chokehold with his knee on Daniel's arms to keep him from moving.
I don't want to get into too many more visualizations to be honest, but remember that the people investigating the murders aren't wrestling fans. They could see a northern-lights suplex and confuse it with a piledriver (I know I know, blasphemous to us).
The truth is, any well-trained wrestler probably knows dozens of different variations of headlocks that could kill someone. Telling them all apart isn't something anyone other than wrestling fans is going to care about though.
Originally posted by FreewayMore questions arise: -Does the "liquification" of Benoit's body hinder the progress of toxicology reports?
Though it probably wouldn't hinder the progress of the tox report in the sense of how long it will take (a crimelog backlog will be more of a factor in that), it could effect the results. Though not a tox expert (i worked as a forensic scientist, but i analyzed the actual drugs themselves), a lot of drugs can be very sensitive to conditions (heat, possibly bacteria, etc) and could breakdown, thus changing the level of drugs detected.
They would also have to do a specific test for GHB because (at least in our system) it is not usually done as part of a routine tox screen. GHB is a different kind of beast to analyze--not impossible, just different.
The DA is now questioning whether Daniel had Fragile X. He said they can't find anything in the medical records they have reviewed so far. Also, WWE is beginning to distance themselves from the statement made by their attorney (Jerry McDevitt) about Daniel having Fragile X.
The whole Fragile X thing is really strange to me. Someone has to know something about this kid don't they?
Also this is a little unnerving for the neighbor now ...
Originally posted by ObserverThe Boston Herald at thetrack.bostonherald.com/... has a story about Holly McFague, Benoit's next door neighbor who actually was the one who found the bodies, hiding out in Boston while the media from around the world is staking out her home. Officers were at first afraid to go to the house because of Benoit's attack dogs, and since she knew the dogs, she actually went in first. She also said she talked to Benoit on Saturday, while his was likely between murders, and he told her in great detail about Nancy and Daniel having food poisoning. McFague actually was surprised at the detail he went into about their illness. She said she liked Nancy but didn't particularly like Chris.
... so he was just kicking around the yard and still able to keep his cool enough to at least not alarm her that anything was wrong.
Oh yeah, this is a video of Mark Furman (uhh?) spreading doubt that Benoit actually did the murders... Well, he'd certainly be an expert if the crime scene had been staged or if evidence had been planted, that's for sure.
I actually think Warrior managed to not come off as a complete whack job insano for once (tho I may just think that because I happen to agree with him on the difference between steroid use and abuse), but he def had his volume set on shout for the whole thing and didn't want to cooperate at all.
Hogan saying Nancy worshipped Satan was weirder than anything Warrior said, quite frankly...
“She was into devil-worship stuff. It was part of her [wrestling] character, but [she was] somebody who gets so close to their character, someone who gets into their character too much. Sometimes these people believe their own publicity.”
Originally posted by BDLhow the hell was he passing any kind of test?
Dr. Phil Astin prescribed Chris Benoit
Yeah, I get that, but I thought the prescription excuse only covered the presence of steroids up to their existing "baseline". If so, how high was the baseline to cover that kind of usage?
Last night on Between The Ropes there was an interview with Brian Alvarez of F4WOnline. They talked to him for about an hour on all the topics relating to the Chris Benoit death. He confirmed that if you have a prescription your levels can be absolutely anything and you'll be excused. Of course he also pointed out this makes no sense because if somebody needs to be prescribed steroids for a lack of testosterone then the drugs should only take their levels back to the regular 1 to 1, not make it go over like 6 to 1 or 10 to 1 or whatever.
I don't have any idea if he or his site is a good one, I don't keep track of those things but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
Originally posted by QuezzyI don't have any idea if he or his site is a good one, I don't keep track of those things but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
I'm a subscriber. I generally like his audio shows, even if he's technologically retarded and can't handle the daunting challenge of Winamp. The TV show recaps with his friends are fun (MORE BRENT) and the frequent interviews with Dave Meltzer and Lance Storm are always good.
There's a free Raw recap audio show posted every Tuesday morning (here's this week's) if you feel like checking it out.
Originally posted by QuezzyLast night on Between The Ropes there was an interview with Brian Alvarez of F4WOnline. They talked to him for about an hour on all the topics relating to the Chris Benoit death. He confirmed that if you have a prescription your levels can be absolutely anything and you'll be excused. Of course he also pointed out this makes no sense because if somebody needs to be prescribed steroids for a lack of testosterone then the drugs should only take their levels back to the regular 1 to 1, not make it go over like 6 to 1 or 10 to 1 or whatever.
Standard "no expert" disclaimers here, but I don't think that objection is valid.
My understanding: The numbers are the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone. Click Here (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov) Your body makes both of those more or less in parallel. If you have an actual "Low Testosterone" condition, you'll most likely have low values of both numbers, but likely still about in a generally 1:1 ratio. The testosterone supplements prescribed for low testosterone conditions are testosterone only -- they don't supplement the epitestosterone at all. So, yeah, if you start with an actual low testosterone condition, you'll have low values for both numbvers. Supplementing the testosterone so that the value is normal, the epitestosterone will still be low, causing the ratio to show testosterone supplementation.
So, that ratio is a screening device, but what actual values are appropriate for an individual patient is a whole lot more complex -- hence requiring doctor's evaluation.
You got a good show right? Isn't that what matters.. If you only watch it for finding out who the #1 contender at WM will be then you get ripped off no matter what as about two and a half months of hyping his name are in between those matches..