Originally posted by Guru ZimThis will be the game to watch this week. I can't imagine what the stands are going to be like for this one.
I'm thinking about leaving town... I expect at least 1 person to be killed at the stadium this weekend.
I'm going to duck. My brother is one of the un-incarcerated Raider fans Tim Sullivan wrote about in this morning's edition of the San Diego Union-Tribune. We'll be screaming obscenities at each other in the comfort of our own home! It's got to be the game of the week. As a die-hard Charger fan, I hope they win, but the realist in me says they have to play better than they have to win this game.
"Ensign Kodos, set coordinates for the obscure, T-shirt producing planet of Earth. We are going to visit... MY DAUGHTER!" -- Kang
Is there rivalry between Tampa and Atlanta? San Diego and the Raiders have a history of brutal games against each other. I had a friend who actually told Spanos one time that he only needed the Chargers to win 2 games a year - the games against the Raiders.
We weren't allowed to have straws at the stadium for a few years because - no joke - Raiders fans used them as weapons.
While the Vick show might be entertaining, the SD/Oakland game is going to be a huge emotional ride.
Your analogy is similar to:
"They already have cars that you can drive, why not blenders?" "I can already write with my hands, why not my pancreas?" "They already have beef that I can eat, why not granite?"
now that you mention it, what are some of the rivals in the NFL?
of course there is Skins/Cowboys, Battle of the Bays, Pac/Bears, Skins/Colts when they were in balti, Skins/Ravens battle of the Beltways, Browns/Ravens, Ravens/Colts, Texans/Titans i would imangine too...
Texans/Chiefs (new texans vs. old texans) could be brought up, Giants/Jets too (Subway battle)
those are just off of the top of my head...
DDP: Well, there's this little passage I got memorized, Diamond Dallas 25:17. Sort of fits this occasion:
"The path of the bookerman is beset on all sides by the inequities of the talented, and the tyranny of workrate freaks. Blessed is he, who in the name of tradition and sports entertainment carries the stiffs through the matches of Nitro, for he is truly the workrate's keeper, and the finder of lost quality. And I will lay the smack down upon thee with great vengeance and furious roid rage those who attempt to outwrestle and expose my brothers. And you will know my name as the Bookerman, when I lay my catchphrase upon thee!"
and as a diehard Broncos fan - I HATE the raiders - I'm glad that they were in LA for the two years I lived in the East Bay area - I also have absolutely no love for the chiefs - those are Denver's two big rivalries
Growing up in a J!E!T!S! JETSJETSJETS household, I know that the Jets have their biggest rivalries with the patsies and the fish
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Originally posted by hazNo problem with the assertion that the Raiders/Chargers is a big rivalry game.
It is the game of the week if you are from California, probably. (except for San Fran may be)
As for the entire NFL, the game of the week is, to me, the one that will be the best game, with the most excitement and importance and thrill.
Regardless of whether Atlanta/Tampa have a rivalry, that is the game for me this week. The Chargers/Raiders game is a close second...
For rivalries, add the Bills/Dolphins to the list. They are saying on Buffalo radio this week that Greg Williams won't be fired as coach after this year because he beat the Dolphins twice.
Agreed, the Bucs and the Falcons are 2 of the form teams in the league right now. I still dont see the Chargers as Superbowl contenders in spite of their record. On top of which, Vick's worth tuning in for regardless of the opposition.
As for rivalries, we Birds have always enjoyed whuppin the Cowboys and the Giants. So sad to see the glory days of Dallas behind us.:)
Originally posted by Guru ZimI think the rivalry is probably more from the LA / SD days than the Oakland / SD days. Maybe it hits harder down here in SoCal where the two groups intermingle a lot more.
LA/SD is always bad though - baseball or football. At least when it is here... I haven't gone up there to watch any games.
The rivalry goes all the way back to the old AFL. The entire AFC West is that way now that Seattle is in the NFC. 40+ years of playing each other twice a season and the occasional playoff matchup. There is too much history here. The Immaculate Deception, when Oakland QB Kenny Stabler puropsely fumbled, Mark Van Eeghan kicked the ball forward, and Dave Casper recovered to score the winning TD. Kellen Winslow scoring 5 TD's in one game in Oakland. The Oakland Raiders beating the Chargers in the 1981 AFC Championship game in San Diego. Tim Brown blew out his knee against the Chargers on a punt return in LA. Junior Seau was ejected from his very first NFL game against the Raiders in LA. Al Davis was an assistant coach with the Chargers in the AFL before buying the Raiders. John Madden has San Diego roots as well, as an assistant under Don Coryell at SDSU before becoming the Raiders head man. One thing is for certain after taking a trip to the Bay Area last month. The Raider fans hate the Chargers as much as we hate the Raiders, and the players love it too. Don't think so? Drew Brees, after the Chargers beat the Raiders in OT earlier this season, was hit by a water bottle thrown by a Raider fan. He said, "It was the hardest I was hit all day."
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Epic fail on not getting the Raiders. That would be Must See TV. I think the NFL's network Top Ten is a great idea and done very well mainly for the fact that the old Raiders are crusty hardass old bastards who have entitlement issues.