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|#21 Posted on 22.10.02 0937.53 |
Originally posted by dMp
WAR games? Yeah, thats the name to use right now..
With GW still yelling he wants Iraqi's blood, Bali bombings, middle east threats by both Israel and the Islam/Palestine people..
Now I am not very PC but I *can* imagine someone saying 'war games is NOT a good name in this age'
We'll just wait and see what that chamber is..
We all know Vince is sympathetic during wartime, oh wait, he's the one who put the world title on Iraqi sympathizer Sgt. Slaughter during the opening days of the Gulf War on a PPV sent to armed forces. Now, back to the match. I love Wargames, but was there really a classic Wargames match after the Dangerous Alliance one of '92? Now, who had control of WCW for all the Wargames after '92, Uncle Eric. So, if they consult with him about Wargames, we might get the moronic Wargames stip that was '98.
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|#22 Posted on 22.10.02 0941.09 |
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|ICQ: || ||#23 Posted on 22.10.02 1458.13 |
| "Chamber of Elimination"|
Chamber: A cage has to be involved. Hell in a Cell, WarGames, or WarGames 2000.
Elimination: This must indicate that there will be a lot of participates. And if it's elimination, it can't be the ACTUAL WarGames, cause it doesn't involve eliminating people.
I kinda agree with Tragic1 in thinking it will be based around a Survivor Series type match. Plus, I really don't think that it can be a real bad match considering the wrestlers in todays WWE. There is no really reason for large PPV match to stink considering that there aren't any BAD uppercard wrestlers on RAW (that I can think of right now).
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|#24 Posted on 22.10.02 1531.33 |
|My Take on the Chamber.|
It will be a Reverse War Games.
Ten Men enter, youre eliminated by Tapping out, or dying.
Last man standing wins the chamber match.
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|#25 Posted on 22.10.02 1539.02 |
|Ten men in a cage, in two teams of five.|
Nine midgets are dropped in.
Whoever fails to capture a midget is eliminated.
Subtract one midget, and repeat until one team is wiped out.
Tell me you wouldn't want it on pay-per-view.
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|#26 Posted on 22.10.02 1610.24 |
|BEST. MATCH. EVER.|
Of course, there has to be music playing during the midget capturing phase. The person without a midget when the music stops is out. This way, we can have time to fight over the midgets
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|#27 Posted on 22.10.02 1611.02 | Instant Rating: 6.41|
Isn't Wargames actually an anti-elimination match, since they add people to the match until the end?
On the surface, it just sounds like the traditional Survivor Series format inside a cage.
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|#28 Posted on 22.10.02 1617.50 |
|They won't do WarGames, simply because it's not a McMahon idea. Especially since its a Dusty idea.|
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|#29 Posted on 22.10.02 1622.27 |
|Maybe its a huge thing that they used to pick ping-pong balls out of to determine the number of entry and put all the wrestlers in and whoever doesn't fall out wins.|
He may be a sick afterwords but hey thats what the casual fans want.
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|#30 Posted on 22.10.02 2130.51 |
1) If Arquette showed, wouldn't HHHHHH have to job to him if Pissoff brought him back?
2) More seriously (Really hope for fan's sake I'm wrong)
Elimination Chamber--Bunkhouse Battle Royal in a cage......
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|#31 Posted on 22.10.02 2152.11 |
|To consider- How big is the Raw roster? At this point, Smackdown isn't involved in the chamber, so I'm thinking there's only 20 or so total possible entrants inside. Likely some or all of HHH, RVD, Kane, Jericho, Christian, Book, Goldust will be involved in one or more title matches at the show. That lowers the crowd to a handful of ppv wrestlers and a bunch of guys who wouldn't usually be on a ppv- Dreamer, Al Snow, Nowitski and the low midcard crowd. |
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|AIM: || ||#32 Posted on 22.10.02 2152.45 |
|I'm sorry but I started watching WCW when the logo change happened and never caught any of there ppv's,care to explain war games?|
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|#33 Posted on 22.10.02 2330.20 |
|2 teams of usually 5, but sometimes 4, square off. There are twon rings beside each other, with traditional steel fence/cages around them complete with a roof. One man from each team enters and every 2? 5? i forget...minutes one man enters. At the next interval, the man from the other team enters. The running joke is that the heel team always wins the coin toss that decides which team gets to add a man first. This results in extended 2-on-1, 3-on-2, 4-on-3, etc., beatdowns. When all members of each team have entered, War Games begins. The only way to win (under traditional rules) is when someone submits (or passes out, I believe). Scott Keith wanted it for settling the WWF/Alliance feud at Survivor Series last year. I just want to see one. I was never a WCW follower so I never saw one. I believe it first debuted at The Great American Bash 1987, live on PPV from Baltimore in July 1987. Anyone out there who has more info, feel free to fill in the blanks.|
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|AIM: || ||#34 Posted on 23.10.02 0811.39 |
|Strangely, the first idea I had upon hearing "Elimination Chamber" was the Thunderdome (was that the name?), the "electrified" cage from early 90's WCW. Unlike Wargames, its first (and only, I believe) appearance was under Bischoff's regime. But since that was a singles match, it's probably not that.|
Actually, I won't be shocked if it's just a traditional Survivor Series match in a cage. Wargames would indeed rock, though.
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|#35 Posted on 23.10.02 2354.03 |
|Darryl the Hitman is pretty close.|
There are 7 periods in Wargames.
The first is 5 minutes and the others are 2.
Just to throw it out, my favorite Wargames is the first 2. the crowd in the Omni in good old Hotlanta Georgia for the first match. That was just awesome, even good old JJ Dillon took a bump that kept him out of the 2nd WG. Boy, a match designed to kill off the Horsemen, didn't work out well, did it???
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|#36 Posted on 24.10.02 0011.56 |
|See, I love WarGames, but if its a traditional Survivor Series match inside of a cage, then DAMN!!!!!|
Instead of having one guy pass out or submit, you have to knock out the entire team. It would be long, but fairly brutal. If this is the match they are going for, I'm all for it as long as HHH jobs to someone, I don't care who, just as long as he loses.
A Fan- HHH has to win this match, because the Horsemen used to own WarGames.
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|#37 Posted on 24.10.02 0053.25 |
Originally posted by Rush4Life
my favorite Wargames is the first 2. the crowd in the Omni in good old Hotlanta Georgia for the first match. That was just awesome, even good old JJ Dillon took a bump that kept him out of the 2nd WG.
I was in the Omni in Atlanta that night as a birthday gift for my 12th birthday. That was easily the best live event I've ever seen, at least once we got past the boring concert featuring Michael Hayes and the Bad Street Band. Along with the Wargames, there was also a classic Rock & Roll Express vs. Midnight Express match.
Anyway, the Wargames match was awesome. I will never forget that match. The problem is, I'm affraid the WWE would screw the match up even worse than WCW did in later years. Maybe Paul Heyman could step in and make it work.
But, as others have said, the rules for War Games just don't fit the classic Survivor Series formula or the name Elimination Chamber.
However, the Wargames would have been perfect for the 10 man "Winner takes all" match that ended the Invasion angle.
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|#38 Posted on 24.10.02 0122.15 |
|""Ten Men enter, youre eliminated by Tapping out, or dying.""|
i don't know why Galidor but the way you put that was Hunter Hearst Hilarioius
Onward to mediocrity!!!
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|AIM: || ||#39 Posted on 24.10.02 0157.40 |
|I didn't get to see the first few War Games, but I really enjoyed the nWo vs. Horsemen one in 1997, where Curt Hennig turned on the Horsemen in one of the classic finishes of the nWo era.|
And yes, the descriptions given so far for WarGames have been accurate. Both teams stand outside the double cage. One man from each team enters, and they compete for 5 minutes. A coin is then flipped (and the heels win the coin toss), and a member of the winning team is allowed into the cage. Two minutes later, the sides are evened again. Two more minute go by, and the heels get person #3 in the cage, etc.
Once everyone is in the cage, "The Match Beyond" begins. Anything goes, and the only way to win the match is to make one member of the other team submit or surrender by being unable to respond to the referee.
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|#40 Posted on 24.10.02 0338.38 |
|Since this thread has slowly turned into "My favorite WarGames is..." I'm putting in my 2 cents.|
Sting/Brian Pillman/Steiner Bros. -v- Flair/Windham/Vicious/Zbyszko -- WrestleWar '91
Sid finishes off Pillman with two powerbombs for the only KO victory I know of in a Wargames.
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