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Today marks the one year anniversary of Cena winning the WWE belt. I believe that is the longest WWE reign since Savage in '88-89.




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Looks that way

Diesel held it for almost a year from 11-26-94 to 11-19-95

Savage Held it for just longer than a year from 03-27-88 to 04-02-89

And then of course Hogans 4 year reign prior to that



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.07
Cena's current reign is the seventh longest after:

1. Bruno Sammartino: May 17, 1963 - January 18, 1971
2. Bob Backlund: February 20, 1978 - December 29, 1983
3. Hulk Hogan - January 23, 1984 - February 5, 1988
4. Sammartino again: December 10, 1973 - April 30, 1977
5. Pedro Morales: February 8, 1971 -December 1, 1973
6. Randy Savage: March 27, 1988 - April 2, 1989

(Damn. Imagine ANYONE holding a belt for almost eight years in this day and age.)

Of course, he wasn't originally booked to keep it this long, according to a Meltzer update a while back. I think plans called for him to drop it to Lashley at one point.

EDIT: In another fun bit of math, if you take out Edge's title reigns, Cena's had the belt for 778 of the last 875 days.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.94

    Originally posted by kentish
    Today marks the one year anniversary of Cena winning the WWE belt. I believe that is the longest WWE reign since Savage in '88-89.
I wonder if WWE mentions any of this tonight on RAW.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.83
    Originally posted by DJ FrostyFreeze
      Originally posted by kentish
      Today marks the one year anniversary of Cena winning the WWE belt. I believe that is the longest WWE reign since Savage in '88-89.
    I wonder if WWE mentions any of this tonight on RAW.


I hope so. This should be mentioned because it probably won't happen again for a decade.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.13
    Originally posted by Dahak
    This should be mentioned because it probably won't happen again for a decade.


Depends on what booking strategies WWE goes with in the future. Judging from the long reigns of Cena, JBL, HHH, and Batista in recent years, I think WWE is well past the days when the top titles had to change hands every other month. As I understand it Undertaker and Edge were each meant to have long Smackdown title reigns before their respective injuries. And barring another blown quad I can easily see HHH going a year with the Raw belt. That is, if Cena ever drops the title to Orton to start the Orton-HHH feud.
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Barring injury, I really can't imagine Cena dropping the belt until WM to HHH. I have no problem with that, considering Hunter has not held a belt since WM 21. But it would be nice if they made a new star by beating the unbeatable Cena. I guess Kennedy could be an x-factor in all of this.




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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.36
Just curious, but why is it a foregone conclusion that HHH gets the belt at WM? Hasn't he been unstoppable in fueds, but beatable in title matches for a few years now?
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Just curious, but why is it a foregone conclusion that HHH gets the belt at WM? Hasn't he been unstoppable in fueds, but beatable in title matches for a few years now?


That just seems to be the scuttlebutt we have heard over the last few months, but at this point, who knows? Let's hope he doesn't, but in his mind, he probably feels like he is due.




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I've heard two different scenarios as the tentative Wrestlemania main event. One is the Cena/Hunter rematch, displaced from this year, as the long-held-off win back for Triple H. The other is what that ol' school hero mentioned, which is Cena/Batista as an interbrand dream match, Hunter/Kennedy with the McMahon family feud (which I am assuming is still going to occur after the suspension), and Edge/Undertaker for the world title. In the description of the second one I read (which was from Figure-Four Weekly), Kennedy and Hunter would be the title match, even if that'd be the one match I'd think would be the least in need of the title to make it meaningful.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
I could get behind a WM featuring 3 potential main events of Taker/Edge, Cena,/Batista, and HHH/Kennedy. But I don't really like the idea of HHH and Taker both going over, and they probably would in that scenario.

Kennedy needs a HUGE push to belong in that match, as he is nowhere near the level of those other 5 guys. I'm not sure there is time to get him built up, not being on the same show as HHH (and even Cena).




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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    I've heard two different scenarios as the tentative Wrestlemania main event. One is the Cena/Hunter rematch, displaced from this year, as the long-held-off win back for Triple H. The other is what that ol' school hero mentioned, which is Cena/Batista as an interbrand dream match, Hunter/Kennedy with the McMahon family feud (which I am assuming is still going to occur after the suspension), and Edge/Undertaker for the world title. In the description of the second one I read (which was from Figure-Four Weekly), Kennedy and Hunter would be the title match, even if that'd be the one match I'd think would be the least in need of the title to make it meaningful.


Given the booking scenarios currently playing out, I do think this seems most likely. The recent HHH/Vince interaction seems to be laying some groundwork for a long-term angle, and unless they're gonna shoehorn Cena into that mix I can't see them heading to 'Mania with an HHH/Cena match. Smart money says Cena drops the belt to Orton at No Mercy, who drops it to Hunter around the Rumble.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      I've heard two different scenarios as the tentative Wrestlemania main event. One is the Cena/Hunter rematch, displaced from this year, as the long-held-off win back for Triple H. The other is what that ol' school hero mentioned, which is Cena/Batista as an interbrand dream match, Hunter/Kennedy with the McMahon family feud (which I am assuming is still going to occur after the suspension), and Edge/Undertaker for the world title. In the description of the second one I read (which was from Figure-Four Weekly), Kennedy and Hunter would be the title match, even if that'd be the one match I'd think would be the least in need of the title to make it meaningful.


    Given the booking scenarios currently playing out, I do think this seems most likely. The recent HHH/Vince interaction seems to be laying some groundwork for a long-term angle, and unless they're gonna shoehorn Cena into that mix I can't see them heading to 'Mania with an HHH/Cena match. Smart money says Cena drops the belt to Orton at No Mercy, who drops it to Hunter around the Rumble.

I think you give them too much credit for patience. If Kennedy returns first week of October and really is going to be the son, he goes against HHH at Survivor Series, maybe if they are really patient they hold off until Royal Rumble. More likely to me is HHH/Kennedy at SurSer, HHH/Kennedy gimmick match at the next ppv, then HHH wins the Rumble setting up the mega-showdown of Cena/HHH at WM24.
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I think they've shown remarkable patience with their big programs in the past couple of years, particularly with Cena/Michaels and Batista/Taker, which were very slowly and deliberately built towards. Ditto the Orton/Cena feud. There are many things that WWE does wrong, but jumping the gun hasn't been part of their repertoire for a while.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I think they've shown remarkable patience with their big programs in the past couple of years, particularly with Cena/Michaels and Batista/Taker, which were very slowly and deliberately built towards. Ditto the Orton/Cena feud. There are many things that WWE does wrong, but jumping the gun hasn't been part of their repertoire for a while.


Agreed, the top of the card does not really have a problem when it comes to a slow build. Except maybe when SD had to reshuffle when their champs were injured. It's the mid card that needs more attention, but with the recent treatment of the tag division and Carlito, I won't hold my breath.




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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I think they've shown remarkable patience with their big programs in the past couple of years, particularly with Cena/Michaels and Batista/Taker, which were very slowly and deliberately built towards. Ditto the Orton/Cena feud. There are many things that WWE does wrong, but jumping the gun hasn't been part of their repertoire for a while.

While they have shown patience, I simply can't imagine what the hell they will have these guys do for six months until WM. I suppose I could imagine it starting now and going 3 months until Royal Rumble. As for the build, the build for Cena/Michaels started only after HHH tore his quad, and that was Jan. 7. So the build for HBK/Cena went about 3 months, and really closer to 2 months, since it didn't kick in full throttle until after Royal Rumble. Same with the Undertaker, as he was preoccupied with Kennedy until the end of 2006 and into early 2007. So even the angles we point to as being well-thought out patiently delivered ones went on for 2-3 months tops.

I could be totally mistaken, as either they could build for months, and have WM be a culmination of a feud, but you don't see that often at WM these days. So unless they either plan to hold off a few months in tying Kennedy back into the angle, having his feud with HHH have nothing to do with the lineage angle, or they think the feud has some 8 months of juice in it, I can't see it being a top card WM match.
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What actually makes Cena/Batista a 'Dream Match' anyways? Even by WWE logic I'm not seeing it.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.17
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    What actually makes Cena/Batista a 'Dream Match' anyways? Even by WWE logic I'm not seeing it.


Have they really fought each other much since the brand extension? Not that they're Austin/Rock, but they're the closest the company has to it these days (which says a lot about the company.)



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    What actually makes Cena/Batista a 'Dream Match' anyways? Even by WWE logic I'm not seeing it.


While maybe not a dream match exactly, they have both carried their respective brands for the better part of two and a half years. It is something we haven't seen before, and I would pay to see it.




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