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I talked to a guy in the office yesterday (we were actually talking about how boring the 600 was, which made me think of this. He had to go to Atlanta last tuesday morning, and of course, that was the day after Raw here in Louisville. Cena was in first class on the plane he was on - left at 6AM.

He said, first, that he was amazed at how big he was. (I have met Lesnar and Hogan close up, so I wish I could compare) And at how short his laegs seemed to be for how tall he was.

But he spoke at length about how friendly he was, how nice to everyone, even though he was being mobbed on the plane. So, there you go, my Cena report.

edit - be nice if I could spell Brock's name today :)

(edited by AWArulz on 27.5.09 0905)


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For all the people who bitch online about Cena should go heel or how Vince should stop pushing Cena, you can see why he does it. No one ever has a bad word to say about dealing with him in public, he moves insane amounts of merchandise, and he seems to never stop working to promote WWE. He really is Vince's dream employee.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.88
I remember last Jan. when MNR came down here after the show hanging out on the street by the loading dock when Cena came out and went straight to his rent-a-car. Cena backed out and was about to drive away when he heard his chants stopped the car, got out and signed autographs and posed for photos. One of the only wrestlers that did the crowd that night.

While he was in town for 12 Rounds, even though I never saw him in Quarter, people that I know that work at the Quarter bars would tell me that he would buy drinks for people, and he tipped well.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
    Originally posted by spf
    For all the people who bitch online about Cena should go heel or how Vince should stop pushing Cena, you can see why he does it. No one ever has a bad word to say about dealing with him in public, he moves insane amounts of merchandise, and he seems to never stop working to promote WWE. He really is Vince's dream employee.

I agree that you never hear bad things about Cena behind the scenes. But what does being a nice guy in real life have to do with maybe turning him heel at some point to freshen up his character?




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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.09
You don't turn a guy heel when there's still some juice left in his face character, or when there's no other major face who is there to oppose him. If Cena turned now, then you'd have an Austin-in-2001 situation where the fans a) didn't really want to boo him and b) with the Rock gone, Austin's biggest rivals were Benoit and Jericho, neither of whom had nearly the following with WWE fans as Austin did.

Hogan's turn with the NWO was much better conceived, since his Hulkamaniac character was totally worn out by 1996 and the majority of the WCW audience didn't like him anyways.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.57
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Hogan's turn with the NWO was much better conceived, since his Hulkamaniac character was totally worn out by 1996 and the majority of the WCW audience didn't like him anyways.


Isn't Cena kind of in this position right now? Right now his cheers/boos are split right down the middle. The people booing him are men, the people cheering him are women and children. The children are going to start booing him if he starts cheating to win, and so there you go. Women might still cheer for the hot guy, but they do that anyway a lot of times and it doesn't usually seem to matter.

I would say that the reason they're not turning Cena heel isn't because no one wants to boo him or there's some life left in his face character; it's because little kids' parents buy tons of Cena merchandise and they probably don't want to kill that cash cow until it's been completely milked dry.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.32

    The children are going to start booing him if he starts cheating to win, and so there you go.


They might just stop watching.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.15
Actually, some of the kids who cheered Cena early on are now starting to boo him, because they grew up. Cena will stay face until they start seeing his sales dip. Cena could turn heel and have HHH/Batista/Taker/MVP or so on to take him. I think people are sick of his character and not the guy. I am in that boat as well since all I have heard about people meeting him are good things.

You should also add Kurt Angle and Taker to the list of people who tried and failed to do anything with Austin in 2001. Austin was stuck in that position due to Vince wanting to pull the trigger on WM17 for a shock ending. Austin stated he would have knocked Vince out if he knew what was going to happen afterwards. Austin is the one person you really can't make heel anyway, because he is already heel. People liked Austin cause he did heel things like swearing, beer drinking and cheating. He was a man of his era. I do think back in the 80s and even now, he would still be cast as a heel. The problem with Austin's heel turn was they didn't turn HHH too. If they did it would be enough to carry them to Invasion where they could turn Austin back to face if wanted too and make HHH the heel again. I just don't think heel Austin was that bad, because he did have great matches and was very entertaining on the mic, I wish I could say the same about Orton, Cena and 80% of the current roster.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.16
If John Cena turned heel he would instantly get back in the good graces of half the fans. Problem is those would be the fans who don't spend nearly as much money on WWE as his current fans do.

I understand the frustration with the character, hell I miss the old Cena heel who would mock John Ritter's passing. But when according to Meltzer the guy sells more merchandise than anyone outside of Austin in his heyday, I cannot fathom why anyone would reasonably expect WWE to turn off that money pump.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
Possibly because of judicious editing, I'm seeing much more Jeff Hardy merchandise in the crowd shots than anyone else's. Punk and Rey are a close second.

I wonder if a Cena turn would make any difference to a polarized audience. If the pro and con halves are fairly equal, wouldn't they remain equal if he goes heel?



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.94
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker

    I wonder if a Cena turn would make any difference to a polarized audience. If the pro and con halves are fairly equal, wouldn't they remain equal if he goes heel?


Not really, because the Anti-Cena people may just not like the guy, whether he is face or heel. Whereas the Pro-Cena fans like him because he's a face and given the demographic makeup may not like him anymore if he turns.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.27
    Originally posted by spf
    If John Cena turned heel he would instantly get back in the good graces of half the fans.
I don't know about that. I think a lot of people have fun booing Cena because he's pushed down everyone's throats as a babyface, plus a lot of people don't think he's any good as a wrestler. Turn him heel and it's no longer fun to boo him, but I don't think he'll become someone they'll want to cheer.

Personally, I like that he works hard, I usually enjoy his matches, and he seems like a decent human being - but I don't care at all about his character and if he disappeared off TV tomorrow, I wouldn't really miss him.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.13
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Possibly because of judicious editing, I'm seeing much more Jeff Hardy merchandise in the crowd shots than anyone else's. Punk and Rey are a close second.



I think you see more Hardy merchandise because his stuff is more visible. The pink gloves and such.
Cena's are usually still just black tshirts with a print.
And sweat bands. Lots of those.

I don't think there's more punk than Cena stuff in the crowd.







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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.64
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker

    I wonder if a Cena turn would make any difference to a polarized audience. If the pro and con halves are fairly equal, wouldn't they remain equal if he goes heel?

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but i for one would will say it would make a difference. I loved Cena from 2002-2004, but I also know that eh can't become that character again. It's the PG era, and that ship has sailed. But I would be willing to give him a chance if there was a heel turn. Anything to distance himself from this pandering wannabe he has become. I know he sells tons of merch, that's why i said turn him heel "at some point to freshen his character". Some point does not have to mean the next PPV, but perhaps when the merch slows down and they want to actually do something with the guy besides milk him for merch money while half the audience hates him.




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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.32

    they want to actually do something with the guy besides milk him for merch money while half the audience hates him.


You say "besides" like putting a superstar wrestler in a prominent position to make a bunch of money is something wrestling companies do for funsies if they feel like it. What will happen when he turns, the people who pay to boo him already will start buying two tickets apiece out of gratitude?
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.88
They already did the Cena heel thing a couple years ago at the ECW vs WWE PPV in that ballroom in New York City. Look it up on YouTube. They need to do another one of these PPV's again.

(edited by CajunMan on 28.5.09 1847)
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

      they want to actually do something with the guy besides milk him for merch money while half the audience hates him.


    You say "besides" like putting a superstar wrestler in a prominent position to make a bunch of money is something wrestling companies do for funsies if they feel like it. What will happen when he turns, the people who pay to boo him already will start buying two tickets apiece out of gratitude?

Are you saying I am wrong, and they actually are doing more with him than what I said? Tell me one thing they have done to advance his character since he won his first World Title. Of course you make money however you can in the "sports entertainment" biz, but don't tell me his character is anything more than a guy who dresses like a kid, who they are afraid to tweak one iota in fear of selling one less bit of merch. Yes, the name of the game is putting an ass ever 18 inches and make money. But at one point, it also seemed to be about creating compelling characters and telling intriguing stories. That more than anything is what is lacking in today's product, and one of the reasons if you miss a month of Raw or SD, you really didn't miss anything you didn't see last month, or last year, or 5 years ago. [End Cornette Mode]




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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.03

Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but someone on the writing staff brought up turning Cena heel in a meeting and Vince chewed him out.

So, it's unlikely to happening anytime soon.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.19
    Originally posted by kentish
    But at one point, it also seemed to be about creating compelling characters and telling intriguing stories.



... so the companies could put asses in seats and make loads of money. If doing something different puts asses in seats and make loads of money, it's equally worthwhile for the company.

EDIT: Which isn't to say I agree with your implication that nothing Cena has done since winning his first title has been compelling. I do agree that his Superman act got old a long time ago, though.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 29.5.09 0948)
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.13
I wonder what John Cena-the person thinks about this.

He is indeed the dream employee, and works his ass off as far as promotional work/movies etc etc goes.

He is not incompotent in the ring. He is just not interesting, mostly due to the Superman-style way he has to wrestle.

Every now and then he shows that he is better (both in ring and promos) than he is supposed to be.

On the latest Rock dvd he talks about how he begged the writers to make him heel (when he first showed up) and how he jumped on the chance when he finally got the nod by joining the Nation. Perhaps John Cena secretly hopes the same?





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