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Since: 3.1.02
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[CNN] CNN reports that at least 10 American soldiers were killed in combat today, adding to the 23 soldiers (9 American and 14 British) who have died since the war began.

Also, 12 American soldiers are unaccounted for, and the Pentagon reported earlier today (also on CNN) that some had been taken prisoner by the Iraqis.

So far, so good. They've taken key cities...but they've also lost lives doing so. Honestly, though, I say give Bush the benefit of the doubt and a tab of 3000 lives. That's how many could have been lost if he just let Iraq gather up weapons and whatnot and wait for another 9-11.



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Whats really troubling is that they say one of the captives is a woman. I dont think their has been a woman US POW before. Im not sexist or anything, I support women going to combat, but still I shudder when I think about it. And since the Iraqis dont seem to give a shit about Geneva I hope they can all be found and rescued soon.
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These motherfuckers have already executed six Allied POWs. Don't think for a second that they won't do that...



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#4 Posted on

    Originally posted by Freeway420
    I say give Bush the benefit of the doubt and a tab of 3000 lives


Do people remember that these are human beings and not just a statistic?



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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard

      Originally posted by Freeway420
      I say give Bush the benefit of the doubt and a tab of 3000 lives


    Do people remember that these are human beings and not just a statistic?



Yup. Hence we are putting our men in harm's way to end the slaughter and torture of thousands of Iraqi people.





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Hey, Im in the Army, when we sign up, we know what we are getting into, especially in a time like this. I joined before 9/11 and all of that, but most of the guys pver there have only been anytime between 9 months ago and 2 years. They know what they signed up for, especially the ones after 9/11. We are prepared to do what we have to do.





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You guys do realize that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 right? It was a bunch of Saudis that were responsible. You know, the Saudis that are "America's best friend"?
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    Originally posted by Rocket
    You guys do realize that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 right? It was a bunch of Saudis that were responsible. You know, the Saudis that are "America's best friend"?







I've stated repeatedly on this board that we should have gone after the Saudi's. Should have done it since the 70's when they tried to destroy the U.S. economy.



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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Do people remember that these are human beings and not just a statistic?


GOod Question. Heres my answer as to why it shouldnt matter.
http://www.drudgereport.com/md323.htm
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    Originally posted by rockdotcom_2.0
    Whats really troubling is that they say one of the captives is a woman. I dont think their has been a woman US POW before. Im not sexist or anything, I support women going to combat, but still I shudder when I think about it. And since the Iraqis dont seem to give a shit about Geneva I hope they can all be found and rescued soon.


There was at least one woman POW in the last war with Iraq. She was interviewed today on one of the networks. And yes her story is troubling. Iraq's promisses to uphold the Geneva convention's regulations ring hollow after their actions in this and the previous war.



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More casualties of war, only these are Iraqi civilians hit by the cruise missiles and bombs.

Warning: Graphic, graphic, GRAPHIC photos. Do not click unless you want to see the reality of war. Really. But I think it's important that we see this ... it's easy to sit sheltered at home and have an opinion on the invasion on an abstact level. But these human beings weren't effected on an abstact level ...

Click Here (aljazeera.net)






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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    GOod Question. Heres my answer as to why it shouldnt matter.


Uh-huh. And every Iraqi is responsible for this?

Newsflash, hero: War crimes happen all the time. We were responsible for a shitload of them in Vietnam. Does that mean every American is responsible for the disgusting actions of certain US servicemen during that war? Of course not. War criminals are responsible for war crimes, not the average citizens of their respective nations.

9/11 is not an excuse for us to kill a lot of random people because they live in the same general area as Osama bin Laden. Iraq is not connected to Al Qaeda, anyway, and even if it was, it's no excuse to act like savages. That's what the bad guys do, remember?



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    Originally posted by Jakegnosis
    Iraq is not connected to Al Qaeda, anyway, and even if it was, it's no excuse to act like savages. That's what the bad guys do, remember?



Heres one thing you have to remember. This is a war on TERRORISM not just Al Qaeda. There are hundreds of terror orginazations in the world that we are moving against. I mean didnt Saddam openly support the suicide bombers in Isreal? I remember him offering money and rewards for their families.
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Since: 2.11.02
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#14 Posted on

    Originally posted by Freeway420
    Honestly, though, I say give Bush the benefit of the doubt and a tab of 3000 lives. That's how many could have been lost if he just let Iraq gather up weapons and what not and wait for another 9-11.


Two things.

1. Is this 3000 lives total, 3000 US lives, 3000 coalition lives, or what? The idea that anyone should be given a tally of human lives to work with is just wrong. While casualties are inevitable you should never treat lives like they're a stat in an accounting book that you need to balance off.

2. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and links to al qaeda are at best loose.




You sir are a genius. I assume we in the UK should commence blitzing Ireland tomorrow after what they did in Omagh among other areas. Hey if one of them's capable of that then lets kill the lot. Better safe than sorry eh?




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    Heres one thing you have to remember. This is a war on TERRORISM not just Al Qaeda. There are hundreds of terror orginazations in the world that we are moving against. I mean didnt Saddam openly support the suicide bombers in Isreal? I remember him offering money and rewards for their families.


Exactly, when Bush gave that speech after 9/11 saying that we would battle ALL terrorists and terroist orginizations AND the indipendant states that supported them, everyone (well, not EVERYONE, but a majority) supported him. Saddam has openly admitted supporting anti-Israeli terrorists and thier orginizations. I think that, coupled with the non-compliance of two seperate UN resolutions over a span of 12 years is a reason to take Saddam out. Also, to counter the anti-war protest of the loss of civilian lives, with the amount of ordinance dropped on Iraq, there have been very very very few civilians lost.





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