The W
Views: 98552535
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Calendar | Color chart | Log in for more!
30.8.14 1948
The W - Movies & TV - Casino Royale
This thread has 6 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Thread rated: 4.03
Pages: 1
(3761 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (19 total)
The Vile1
Lap cheong








Since: 4.9.02
From: California

Since last post: 1959 days
Last activity: 1691 days
#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.04
No icon for Casino Royale? What's up with that?

Alright, saw the movie tonight here in Houston. I'm still processing some of it. But I think Craig was a fantastic Bond, and I think the haters who really aren't even Bond fans and just a bunch of whiney housewives obsessed with Brosnan need to get over it. This story is not a Brosnan Bond story, it required a new Bond.

I liked seeing a return to live stunts instead of blue screen CGI shit from the last few movies. The action is very well done for the most part, and I don't think they over-edit it like say . . . the shit that's called The Marine.


Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
One sort of action sequence I think should've been cut entirely is when Bond is poisoned during a card game and has to go to his car to mess with some doohickeys or he dies. It could've been totally cut from the movie and they would've lost nothing for it.


Also, about *THAT* scene:


Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
A knotted rope, not a carpet beater. BOO!
Promote this thread!
Excalibur05
Knackwurst








Since: 19.1.02
From: Minnesota

Since last post: 13 days
Last activity: 1 day
AIM:  
#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.69
    Originally posted by The Vile1


    Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
    One sort of action sequence I think should've been cut entirely is when Bond is poisoned during a card game and has to go to his car to mess with some doohickeys or he dies. It could've been totally cut from the movie and they would've lost nothing for it.




No, they needed that because....


Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
It proves that Vesper really did have feelings for him, which validates Bond's feelings for her at the end. James was supposed to die so that Le Chiffre could walk away with the rest of the game and the money to cover "The Organization's" investment in him. When she screwed that up and Bond survived and won, The Organization had to keep Bond alive and around long enough to get the code and the money from him.

What they DIDN'T need was that extended Retired Bond scene there in the third Act. It really broke up the pacing of the movie. If they'd gone straight from sex at the hospital to him quitting to her doublecrossing him, then ok, but that felt like forever to develop. Also the scene of them in the shower could have done without him licking her fingers. That was just creepy.


Other than that though, I really enjoyed it. Craig isn't nearly as suave as Brosnan, but that's really the point. Without the special effects and things, it felt much more real and gritty, which is exactly what the series needs. I'm going to miss Q and the goofy gadgets, but I like the new direction. I'm not sure I'm a fan of Bond waffling as much as he does in this movie, but at least he's not completely bullet proof or anything. The only qualm I had about that was


Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
that Bond wasn't the one that solved the "second act mystery" with Le Chiffre, instead with the Organization offing him, and then Bond offing them. It felt like kind of a bait and switch there, but the plot kind of relied on that, so I can't complain too much. Also, where was the CIA? I thought they were going to bring in Le Chiffre, was that a set-up too?


Anyway, pretty good overall.

(edited by Excalibur05 on 18.11.06 1734)


For NFL Power Rankings, My Blog and More, check out Hock Show Dot Com (hockshow.com)
The Vile1
Lap cheong








Since: 4.9.02
From: California

Since last post: 1959 days
Last activity: 1691 days
#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.04
The use of the CIA and Felix Leiter was very contrived. In the book it was a joint op and Felix Leiter was working with Bond representing the CIA and wasn't playing the game.


Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
You don't need the poison scene to prove that Vesper cares about him. It's proven by her bargaining for his life and her genuine sorrow during the climax and basic suicide


Also, stay during the credits if you haven't seen it yet.
Excalibur05
Knackwurst








Since: 19.1.02
From: Minnesota

Since last post: 13 days
Last activity: 1 day
AIM:  
#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
Here (hockshow.com) is my "official" review, if you're interested.



For NFL Power Rankings, My Blog and More, check out Hock Show Dot Com (hockshow.com)
babetsavant
Polska kielbasa








Since: 17.8.06
From: Calgary, AB Canada

Since last post: 1424 days
Last activity: 1234 days
#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.35
I've been a Bond fan ever since I was a little girl and my family would pile in to our car and head out to the nearest drive-in to catch the latest installment. To me, Connery was the "Man". Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think that anyone could be a better Bond, until now...
Daniel Craig is now the "Man"... I loved this movie! Loved the stripped down approach... I think that they have re-booted the franchise... It has a more realistic gritty feel to it... Loved the cast... Loved the story...Loved him!



But, my daddy's in a coma!
General Zod
Italian








Since: 1.10.05
From: Mesa, Arizona

Since last post: 785 days
Last activity: 6 hours
#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
I agree. This is the best Bond film in a long time and one of the best ever.





Keep it Funky!
Cerebus
Knackwurst








Since: 17.11.02

Since last post: 32 days
Last activity: 1 day
#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
Yeah, I know... two weeks late and all that, but I wasn't really all that excited to see this so we waited till last night to go.

In all honesty, I'm ashamed to have been so against Daniel Craig from the beginning. He really did 'look' the part as described in the novels. (...except for the blond hair, which grew on me as the film went along.) This really was quite good and I feel like I should be eating a hat or a dead bird or something because I had zero faith in the film and I thought it'd be crap and it wasn't.

I even enjoyed the 'yoda fight' chase scene which supposedly used very little cgi effects, which is shocking.

The only downer was the pre-credits super stunt filled action scene which wasn't there, but if this is indeed a 'reboot' of the franchise, then I can live with that.

    Originally posted by The Vile1
    Also, stay during the credits if you haven't seen it yet.


Shit, I knew I forgot something. I always liked how they'd have "James Bond WIll return in..." at the end of the credits and I totally forgot to stay for that.

...what happened?
The Vile1
Lap cheong








Since: 4.9.02
From: California

Since last post: 1959 days
Last activity: 1691 days
#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.04
You just said it .

"James Bond Will Return."
Freeway
Scrapple








Since: 3.1.02
From: Calgary

Since last post: 251 days
Last activity: 2 days
#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.07
It'll be interesting to see if it stands the test of time, but Casino Royale is definately the best Bond film of the past two decades and one of the best films of the year.



DVDs; Blog
babetsavant
Polska kielbasa








Since: 17.8.06
From: Calgary, AB Canada

Since last post: 1424 days
Last activity: 1234 days
#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.35
K'... I've now seen it 3 times.... The last time, had a couple of vodka martinis beforehand... I highly recommend going that route!



But, my daddy's in a coma!
FLRockAndLaw
Boerewors








Since: 2.1.02
From: Central Florida, somewhere between Orlando and Tampa, U.S.A.

Since last post: 18 days
Last activity: 58 min.
AIM:  
#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.78
Here are some more thoughts from a demented mind in Central Florida:
This may belong under music, but it directly relates to the film, so I'll try posting it here first.

Has anyone found a (legal) version of the theme music for this movie? ITunes has an entry, but it's some alternative-music version by Chris Cornell... not the high-energy, blow-your-ass-out-of-the-seat-and-three-rows-back version with strings, horns, and full orchestra backing the band. I am clueless as to why such version was not released commercially, as it's a great track and would make a killing (no pun intended).



Why yes, I am both a musician and a lawyer. Thanks for asking. :)
skorpio17
Morcilla








Since: 11.7.02
From: New Jersey

Since last post: 2356 days
Last activity: 2356 days
#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.38
I was let down. It wasn't as good as the previous ones: Die Another Day, Goldeneye, World is Not Enough. Not to hate on Craig much, but he didn't look like Bond to me.

It had action and the 2 chase scenes were good, but the last 40 minutes were weak. Q's gadgets were missing. It could've used one big heel with a superpower, not a bunch of regular guys. Bond didn't seem like he was having fun.
StaggerLee
Scrapple








Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 4 days
Last activity: 51 min.
#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.25
    Originally posted by skorpio17
    It had action and the 2 chase scenes were good, but the last 40 minutes were weak. Q's gadgets were missing. It could've used one big heel with a superpower, not a bunch of regular guys. Bond didn't seem like he was having fun.

That's the exact reason I LOVED this movie, its far more realistic than the previous few movies. A Hotel made of ice? A bad guy with diamonds in his face? Please. This at least made it seem like it was plausible.
General Zod
Italian








Since: 1.10.05
From: Mesa, Arizona

Since last post: 785 days
Last activity: 6 hours
#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.27
Same here. I liked that it was more realistic and closer to the feel of the Fleming novels.



Keep it Funky!
oldschoolhero
Knackwurst








Since: 2.1.02
From: nWo Country

Since last post: 1933 days
Last activity: 1867 days
#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
This is roughly 1000x better than DIE ANOTHER DAY, TWINE, TOMORROW NEVER DIES, and pretty much every Bond of the last twenty-five years. It's not just a good Bond movie, it's a good movie, period. It featured Bond as an actual character, as opposed to a collection of puns and postures.



To those who say people wouldn't look; they wouldn't be interested; they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply: There is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires, and lights, in a box.-Edward R. Murrow
KJames199
Scrapple
Moderator








Since: 10.12.01
From: #yqr

Since last post: 17 days
Last activity: 9 hours
#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.71
    Originally posted by skorpio17
    It wasn't as good as the previous ones: Die Another Day
Whoa.

Die Another Day is not only a terrible Bond movie, but one of the worst movies ever made. Ever. So, so awful.



JK
site / LiveJournal / Flickr / MySpace
StaggerLee
Scrapple








Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 4 days
Last activity: 51 min.
#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.25
Casino Royale has just become the highest grossing Bond movie ever.

Mr. Boffo
Scrapple








Since: 24.3.02
From: Oshkosh, WI

Since last post: 398 days
Last activity: 358 days
#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.12
That's true, as long as you don't adjust for inflation. The average movie ticket price has increased 13% since even Die Another Day came out.

Adjusted for inflation, based on domestic box office only, the best selling movie was Thunderball. Casino Royale would have to pass $400 million domestically to pass it.

Looking at worldwide box office (which only exists for Moonraker, and then the movies since 1989), and assuming worldwide prices have increased at the same rate as US prices (which may very well not be true), then it needs to reach $550 million worldwide (which is doable, it's already at $453 million) to pass Moonraker at the tops.
skorpio17
Morcilla








Since: 11.7.02
From: New Jersey

Since last post: 2356 days
Last activity: 2356 days
#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.38
It was most similar to Die Another Day with the 24ish plot twists, rogue agent, torture, bitchy boss, etc. I still liked the Ice Castle, cars shooting missles, and the other movie.

My father's main gripe with Casino Royale aside from confusing and overlong was that watching a poker game is boring and to suggest the fate of the world depends on a poker game is absurd. On the other hand, I enjoy watching poker on TV.

My main complaint is that it was too "realistic." I'd prefer any other Bond, even one of Dr. Bashir's holodeck programs. I'd even prefer the Brosnan playing Bond in a non-Bond movie, like the Sunset one or the newer one which I didn't see and can't even remember the name of, but I believe is better.

And it's not that I'm too harsh on recent movies, because I loved Deja Vu and the Prestige - which even had they gone straight to DVD were better.
Thread rated: 4.03
Pages: 1
Thread ahead: The Return of First Run Television
Next thread: "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer" teaser out
Previous thread: SCRUBS songs on YouTube
(3761 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
Adult Swim?
The W - Movies & TV - Casino RoyaleRegister and log in to post!

The W™ message board

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim

This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.211 seconds.