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Just wanted to see if anyone has been watching this case. Because school ended in June, I was able to follow it on TruTV during the afternoon, dating back to the jury selection. I watched a lot of the questioning and all of the closings.

To me, personally, I think she did it. However, the evidence just wasn't there for me, and I certainly wouldn't have been able to convict on first-degree murder. I thought Jose Baez put the defense behind the 8-ball with his opening statement, and overall, Jeff Ashton and the prosecution did a lot better than the defense (and was a lot smoother). I thought Ashton laid out the case step-by-step and everything made sense in his closing. But Baez too did a really nice job in closing and I think that's where they won the case.

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I know next to nothing about this case but I do know from what I've seen on Twitter today and from what I've been hearing from people (i.e. women) I work with that Casey Anthony is SUPER GUILTY in the court of public opinion.



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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    I know next to nothing about this case but I do know from what I've seen on Twitter today and from what I've been hearing from people (i.e. women) I work with that Casey Anthony is SUPER GUILTY in the court of public opinion.

Yeah, I've found that on Facebook too. Shocking. The one friend of mine on Facebook who was actually talking sense was one with a law background.
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Hooray! No more Nancy Grace on GMA!

aw, who am I kidding, of course she'll be on GMA tomorrow and forever.



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    Originally posted by geemoney
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
      I know next to nothing about this case but I do know from what I've seen on Twitter today and from what I've been hearing from people (i.e. women) I work with that Casey Anthony is SUPER GUILTY in the court of public opinion.

    Yeah, I've found that on Facebook too. Shocking. The one friend of mine on Facebook who was actually talking sense was one with a law background.


Today is the worst day possible to "Like" Casey Anthony on Facebook.



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Let me first say Casey Anthony is PROBABLY guilty. But PROBABLY shouldn't put anyone on death row.

The prosecution never could prove it was murder and tried a death penalty case based on circumstantial evidence.

Had they simply went for 2nd degree murder, Casey Anthony doesn't get the lawyers (or the press coverage which allowed her to get all these experts), and probably goes to prison.

And while the decision may urk a lot of people, it's probably the right decision.

To me, this also proves why the death penalty should be eliminated. It just costs too much to be try the cases.
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    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    I know next to nothing about this case but I do know from what I've seen on Twitter today and from what I've been hearing from people (i.e. women) I work with that Casey Anthony is SUPER GUILTY in the court of public opinion.


Well to be fair, we on the outside knew so much more evidence than the jury knew. That's what Nancy Grace said this afternoon between aerial shots of people with "looks of complete bewilderment on their faces" anyways. Direct quote even.



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I have a law background. And I can't believe it.

I probably wouldn't be surprised if a celebrity got off scot-free, but I figured that your regular joe with no preexisting goodwill with the jury could never beat that kind of mountain of evidence against him/her. For every hole the defense tried to create, the prosecution filled it right back up. Even members of her own family were saying very damning things about her.

Perhaps some of the extracurriculars and histrionics and tabloid-worthy storylines muddled things a bit for the jury. That's the only way I can imagine they didn't come up with a guilty verdict. But that's just my opinion. Chalk one up for the bad guys! Yeah!

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    Originally posted by Mike Zeidler
    Hooray! No more Nancy Grace on GMA!

    aw, who am I kidding, of course she'll be on GMA tomorrow and forever.


Aw PEAS. Can't she just retire in shame to a llama farm in Minnesota or something?

I've been pretty militant about my antipathy for the attention given to the trial, so I've been as ignorant as humanly possible about the details. But my Facebook wall was BOMBARDED with people flipping out about her getting off on the biggest charges, and (since those reactions were purely emotional, rather than an actual legal view) I'm glad none of them are in any position involving the legal system.

If the prosecution didn't convince 12 people beyond reasonable doubt of her guilt, then they have to acquit. She's not guilty just because she's been accused of something abhorrent, and she's not guiltless because the jury didn't convict her. It just means the prosecution convinced the jury, beyond a reasonable doubt, of some things, falling short of that standard. I'd be amazed if civil action wasn't forthcoming, although I don't know who it'd be from or against. This story, much to my annoyance, isn't going to be over.





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Yeah, the prosecution messed that one up. Kudos to the jury. I have no doubt in my mind that they understood the significance of their decision. They were able to successfully separate feeling from fact (or lack there of).

I believe that the prosecution screwed themselves with the "If not Casey, then who?" approach. With all of the evidence being circumstantial, they really needed to just come out and say Casey did it and stick with that.

Excellent job in breaking down the character of Casey. Unfortunately though, it's not enough to say "she is a liar so she is a killer", "She was partying when her daughter was missing she is a killer", "She was mean to her mom on the phone, she is a killer"....etc...

I think that the jury made the right decision based on the facts that were presented to them. The problem with the verdict is that the prosecution spent way too much time on the wrong facts without directly connecting Casey beyond what they had suspected.

If not Casey, then who? Nobody...you just messed up.
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"Well, I hope that this is a lesson to those of you who have indulged in media assassination for three years. Bias, prejudice and incompetent talking heads saying what would be and how to be. I'm disgusted by some of the lawyers that have done this, and I can tell you that my colleagues from coast to coast and border to border have condemned this whole process of lawyers getting on television and talking about cases that they don't know a damn thing about. And don't have the experience to back up their words or the law to do it. Now you learned a lesson, and we appreciate the jury and those of you that have been objective and professional. We like it. Others, we're going to be talking to again. Thank you very much," Cheney Mason, one of Casey Anthony's defense attorneys said at a press conference after the verdict was announced.


Awesome statement.

The State failed to prove it.
In our system, that means she doesn't get convicted.

Sometimes the system sucks.
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A friend sent this to me and it reminded me that sometimes we need to just sit back and think before we comment about stuff we don't know about before we make asses of our selves. Granted, I don't always do this, but I'm getting better at it. Some people, like the one in this tweet, will never learn...



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Getting off the first-degree murder charge is well and good, but being found not guilty of aggravated manslaughter AND child abuse seems baffling. Not reporting your daughter missing for a month seems like abuse to me.

And why do you duct tape the mouth of a girl who has already drowned?

I wonder if she'd have gotten off if she'd been a guy. Or black.

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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    "Well, I hope that this is a lesson to those of you who have indulged in media assassination for three years. Bias, prejudice and incompetent talking heads saying what would be and how to be. I'm disgusted by some of the lawyers that have done this, and I can tell you that my colleagues from coast to coast and border to border have condemned this whole process of lawyers getting on television and talking about cases that they don't know a damn thing about. And don't have the experience to back up their words or the law to do it. Now you learned a lesson, and we appreciate the jury and those of you that have been objective and professional. We like it. Others, we're going to be talking to again. Thank you very much," Cheney Mason, one of Casey Anthony's defense attorneys said at a press conference after the verdict was announced.



The best was hearing Nancy Grace and the talking heads responding after Mason and Baez gave their speeches, with Grace somehow saying Mason was referring to lawyers who had come on local TV to give their opinions, then she turned around and somewhat blasted Baez for not mentioning Caylee until two minutes into his speech.

During the verdict, what I found most interesting was George and Cindy leaving the courtroom before proceedings were finished - I don't know if that meant they disagreed with the verdict or they were too emotional to stay in there. George and Cindy did release a statement last night that said the verdict was correct "based on the evidence presented." Hmmm...
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The defence lawyers are conducting themselves pretty unpleasantly in the wake of this. Not sure what giving the finger to the press/people outside their champagne victory party(!) does to help anything. The whole thing is just ugly right now; no-one's coming out of it looking good.

EDIT: Also interesting: I wonder how many people praising the decision/condemning the prosecutors also expressing indignation that O.J. got off so farcicially?

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