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Houston, we look forward to a hard fought competitive series. May the best team win, good luck.

P.S. This will be the first time since 1990 (Reds) a team from the NL central will be in the world series. Whoever wins, lets represent and ruin either the Yankees or Bosox's year.



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If the Cardinals don't win this one easily, I'll eat my hat.
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Is there a way that both teams can lose this series? That's what I'm rooting for.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.17
    Originally posted by The Goon
    If the Cardinals don't win this one easily, I'll eat my hat.


As much as I love the cards, the astros do match up pretty well. THeir starters are better, our bullpen is better, and both clubs have very solid lineups. With ROlen and Edmonds in a funk right now, the astros may be able to take advantage. That being said the astros wont be able to use Clemens and Oswalt until games 3 and 4 so if the cards can take the first two at home, they may be able to finish the astros off quick. If they split then the astros have a very good chance.

Oh and Whitebacon, are you mad at the cards for beating the dodgers or the stros for getting the wild card over the giants or both?



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.85
It's not like the Cardinals' pitching is that great, so I'm thinking that there will be a lot of runs scored in the first two games. If the Astros can take one of the first two, then they'll be in great shape. I don't think the Astros are in as much trouble as a lot of people seem to think. (but we'll see....)

Hopefully Garner won't try to outthink himself in this series and will instead stick with what worked at the end of the regular season (four days rest, Lidge pitches 2 except under extreme circumstances).

Go Astros!
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The Cards are a scary team. No weak spots in that lineup, and a ridiculous number of gold gloves on the field at any time. The Astros are at a disadvantage, but they've got the starting pitching and the killer B's. This should be a tight series, but I say Cards in 7.

That said, go 'Stros. I want Sox vs. Roooooger in the World Series.



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I'll go Cardinals in 5, as the only way Houston can get their top 2 pitchers more than 3 combined starts is if Clemens pitches on 3 days rest, and that could be a disaster against this line-up. Cards smoke the Stros in first 2, Clemens implodes in 3, Oswalt pitches with pride in 4, and the Cards clinch against Backe in 5.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
I'm sticking with St. Louis in 5...



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by Corajudo
    It's not like the Cardinals' pitching is that great, so I'm thinking that there will be a lot of runs scored in the first two games. If the Astros can take one of the first two, then they'll be in great shape. I don't think the Astros are in as much trouble as a lot of people seem to think. (but we'll see....)

    Hopefully Garner won't try to outthink himself in this series and will instead stick with what worked at the end of the regular season (four days rest, Lidge pitches 2 except under extreme circumstances).

    Go Astros!


I'll respectfully point to the Cardinals' 3.75 ERA, 5 10 + game winners with four of those having at least 15 wins. If Carpenter is indeed out with his bicep injury, then that's 4 10+ winners with 3 of them having at least 15 in the playoff rotation.

Houston has a 4.05 team ERA and while Clemens and Oswalt have been a "gruesome twosome", there is a bigger dropoff after them.

As a fan of the Cardinals, I'll also have to say I really like our lineup - I don't think Edmonds will stay in his funk much longer and I really think that Rolen will come around soon (but both bring so much defensively that it's hard to complain too much).

Cardinals also have a better manager - Cardinals in 5.

Edit for spelling blunders.

(edited by Rudoublesedoublel on 12.10.04 1624)
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.85
I'll respectfully point to the Cardinals' 3.75 ERA, 5 10 + game winners with four of those having at least 15 wins. If Carpenter is indeed out with his bicep injury, then that's 4 10+ winners with 3 of them having at least 15 in the playoff rotation.

Houston has a 4.05 team ERA and while Clemens and Oswalt have been a "gruesome twosome", there is a bigger dropoff after them.


As far as the pitching staffs go, I think that a 4.05 ERA pitching in Enron is better than a 3.75 ERA in Busch. The Astros have better individual pitchers at the top but do not have the same amount of depth. Still, give me three quality starts from Oswalt and Clemens, Lidge as closer, and I'll take my chances.

As a fan of the Cardinals, I'll also have to say I really like our lineup - I don't think Edmonds will stay in his funk much longer and I really think that Rolen will come around soon (but both bring so much defensively that it's hard to complain too much).

Cardinals also have a better manager - Cardinals in 5.


You'll get no argument from me on these counts; the Cards' lineup is awesome (but, the Astro lineup is pretty stout as well), and Garner did his best to lose the Braves' series. Although I think that LaRussa is overrated as a manager, he is certainly better than Garner, at least strategically.

Lastly, if the Astros have to lose to someone, St. Louis would be at the top of my list. They have quality players who seem to also be good guys. And, they are supported by great, great fans in an outstanding baseball city that supports its team through thick or thin.

I'm looking forward to the series, should be a lot of fun.

Go Astros!
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
If the Cardnials pitching is so woefull, who got credit for those 104 or so games they won?


And, Larussa overrated? He's probably got the most games of any active manager not named Torre under his belt, AND a World Series ring. Not like he was just lucky in Oakland.

Besides, you have to give him credit for managing and wearing those HUGE Butterfly collars with the White Sox.
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.50
    Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
    Oh and Whitebacon, are you mad at the cards for beating the dodgers or the stros for getting the wild card over the giants or both?


No, he's a Cub fan. We are genetically dis-inclined to like the Astros, and similarly inclined to HATE the Cardinals.



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    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
      Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
      Oh and Whitebacon, are you mad at the cards for beating the dodgers or the stros for getting the wild card over the giants or both?


    No, he's a Cub fan. We are genetically dis-inclined to like the Astros, and similarly inclined to HATE the Cardinals.



Thanks for handling that, I had missed the question somehow.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by Corajudo

    As far as the pitching staffs go, I think that a 4.05 ERA pitching in Enron is better than a 3.75 ERA in Busch.



According to ESPN both teams have lower ERAs at home than they do on the road. St. Louis is 3.54 v. 3.96 while Houston is 3.91 v. 4.21.

For the record, I'm not trying to be malicious, I'm just happy to be "arguing" baseball about a team I care about this time of year.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
Knowing nothing about baseball, other than the fact that my mom loves the Cardinals and some vague childhood memories of her cursing the Milwaukee Brewers while I was playing with a black guineau pig named "Darth Vader," I'll say Cardinals in 5.





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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.85
Wow my hometown team is in the playoffs?

*pulls out fair-weather fan kit*


Go Cards! Time to bust out the the 'ol Red windbreaker. I remember when the Cardinals went to the world series in '87 every radio station played "The Heat is On" non-stop. I will be checking highlights and like Asteroidboy said, I know zilch about Baseball.




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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.02
Seems the bats will beat any pitching the Astros throw at them, Rolen is getting back, Walker is hitting, and the rest fo the team have been on a roll for a while.


Clemens needs to DOMINATE in his start.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.85
    Originally posted by Rudoublesedoublel
      Originally posted by Corajudo

      As far as the pitching staffs go, I think that a 4.05 ERA pitching in Enron is better than a 3.75 ERA in Busch.



    According to ESPN both teams have lower ERAs at home than they do on the road. St. Louis is 3.54 v. 3.96 while Houston is 3.91 v. 4.21.

    For the record, I'm not trying to be malicious, I'm just happy to be "arguing" baseball about a team I care about this time of year.


No worries! I was thinking about it last night and looked that same stat up. I had planned to write an 'I'm an idiot' post, but you beat me to it. Hmmmmm...maybe the correct response is 'If they pitched that well at home in Minute Maid Park, just think how low the ERA would have been in a regular ballpark.' I don't know; it doesn't even sound that compelling to me!

Still, I stick by my original argument that the Astros' best pitchers are much better than the Cards' top guys (i.e. the top of the rotation and closer), but they drop off rapidly and the Cardinals have much more depth and talent in the bottom of the rotation and in the middle and long relief.

We'll see what happens tonight. It goes without saying that a Houston win will be huge.

Go Astros!
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
    Originally posted by Corajudo
    Still, I stick by my original argument that the Astros' best pitchers are much better than the Cards' top guys (i.e. the top of the rotation and closer), but they drop off rapidly and the Cardinals have much more depth and talent in the bottom of the rotation and in the middle and long relief.

    We'll see what happens tonight. It goes without saying that a Houston win will be huge.

    Go Astros!


Agreed on all counts. FWIW, if the Cardinals weren't in it, I'd be rooting for Houston (though from afar) - I've always liked the Astros from the days of JR Richard. Interesting that both teams' key acquisitions - Beltran and Walker - came up big last night.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.51

Here's the big problem with the Cardinals, other than THEY SUCK (the Cub fan speaks again).

They can win big or small, so if they can get a good pitching game against Clemens, they can scratch one or two runs to stay in and/or beat the Rocket.

The Astros, who ALSO SUCK, are definitely battlers, but if they hit a protracted offensive swoon of strikeouts, they aren't the small ball team the SUCKWAD Cardinals are.



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