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#21 Posted on

    Originally posted by Dr Unlikely
    Davis should have demanded Tampa throw in the pirate ship as part of the compensation. That would have been cool.


I was going to add that, but I realized the pirate ship is part of the stadium!



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#22 Posted on
McKay was signed to a 6 year extension today...
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#23 Posted on

    Originally posted by Java
    McKay was signed to a 6 year extension today...


what's in the drinking water in Tampa?

McKay signs an extension after the way the Glazers' treated him? This is some joke going on there in One Bucs Place.



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#24 Posted on
*sigh* The situation down there doesn't seem too good from where I sit...

'course, you just KNOW it's hitting the wall if there aren't results in 2 years. Maybe even if there's not results next year.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.09

    Originally posted by TheCow
    *sigh* The situation down there doesn't seem too good from where I sit...


Care to explain why? They have a new coach, the GM they almosy had to let go, and pretty much the same roster (a few free agents will have to go, but the Sapps, Johnsons and Lynchs will still be there).



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#26 Posted on
Well, if you are like me, and don't think the coach was the Bucs problem, then you could see why someone might not think the Bucs situation is too good right now.

They don't have a Super Bowl caliber team now, and since they sold their future for a coach, they will have trouble building one in the future. And how hard will a GM work for a team he doesn't even want to work for.
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#27 Posted on

    Originally posted by ges7184
    Well, if you are like me, and don't think the coach was the Bucs problem, then you could see why someone might not think the Bucs situation is too good right now.

    They don't have a Super Bowl caliber team now, and since they sold their future for a coach, they will have trouble building one in the future. And how hard will a GM work for a team he doesn't even want to work for.




I dont agree here. #1 I think the Bucs do have a Super Bowl quality team. Their definitely more talented than the Patriots. And theyre the only team (other than the Pats) that doesnt fold when they see the Rams. Im a Bucs fan and I thought that Dungy was an excellent coach. But he wasnt offensive minded enough to make it work in Tampa. I can almost see why he would be let go, the method by which he was fired was disrespectful. Anyway its not my team to run, the Glazers wnted to make a change, but they got burned by totally fucking it up. But they got a good man in return. And Im sure that the Glazers patched things up with Mckay, we shouldnt speculate on his desire to work with Tampa. After all he built that team and Im sure the Glazers have assured him that he has their trust. As for the draft picks, good teams arent made by top round picks. Good teams are made by being a good judge of lower round talent. If the Bucs draft correctly and pick free agents with care the impact of the loss of draft picks will be minimal. Plus the Bucs core players are still relatively young, and injury free. So I think they should be in good shape. At least they dont have major cap problems.



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#28 Posted on
I guess I'm missing all this talent the Bucs supposedly have (I'm not sure I buy they are more talented than the Patriots). They've got guys who talk a good game, so the press love them, but I simply think they are overrated. Or maybe I'm biased because I'm just tired of seeing Warren Sapp EVERYWHERE.

I agree teams are made in the later rounds, but that's under the assumption that everyone will pick quality players in the early rounds (and therefore what you do in the late rounds will ultimately differentiate yourself from other teams). It's hard to pick up those quality players if you don't even have the picks. I still think giving up those picks is a heavy price for a coach (but I'm also operating on the assumption that Gruden is not significantly better than Dungy, which you feel differently about). Of course, if the coach is enough to get a championship, it will end up being worth it. If they do have cap room, then they can indeed cover themselves with free agents in the short term.

I only speculate about McKay because of the tactics they used to keep him (at least according to Addy). Yes, it is only speculation, but that's what we are here for.

Since you are a Bucs fan, are they going to seek out a quarterback? I just don't think Brad Johnson is the guy. I also not big on Warren Dunn and Mike Alstott (Alstott is very overrated...he should thank John Madden every day), but that could be a result of a O-line problem, haven't watched them enough to know. They could use another receiver to go with Keyshawn in my mind, too. I guess I'm saying I think there is more wrong with the offense than just Dungy.
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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.09
I agree that Brad Johnson is nothing special. People (announcers) like to point out that he is the third highest QB in history in completion %. I COULD COMPLETE 60% OF MY PASSES IF I PASSED TO WARRICK DUNN 5 YARDS BEHIND THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE.

Anyway, a look at the Bucs roster:
QB- Johnson, Shaun King
RB- Alstott, Dunn(?), Abdullah, Stecker
FB- Jameel Cook
WR- Keyshawn, Jaquez Green, Karl Williams
OL- Kenyatta Walker, Jeff Christy
DL- Sapp, Anthony McFarland, Simeon Rice
LB- Derrick Brooks
DB- Ronde Barber, Brian Kelly(?), Donnie Abraham, John Lynch
K- Gramatica

Few teams in the league can come close to a lineup like that, and these are just the best they have. The supporting cast is good too, but (like RBs Stecker and Abdullah, who are very similar to Dunn but bigger and stronger) aren't known due to lack of playing time.

EDIT: Guys with a (?) might leave in free agency, but are seemuingly sticking around.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 6.3.02 1719)
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