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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/​2012/​01/​26/​report-​bucs-​plan-​to-​hire-​schiano/​



    It looks like the Bucs will hire a surprising college name to be their next head coach after all.

    ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that the Bucs plan to hire Rutgers coach Greg Schiano. The two sides are reportedly putting the “finishing touches” on Schiano’s contract.

    Of course, the Bucs were also planning to hire Oregon coach Chip Kelly at one point. They were trying to finalize that contract, but it didn’t happen. Schiano looks less likely to have a last minute change of heart.

    WDAE in Tampa first reported the Bucs’ interest in Schiano on Thursday. The Bucs’ other “finalist” for the head coaching job was Mike Sherman, who Schefter reports is now talking to the Dolphins about their offensive coordinator job.

    The Bucs searched far and wide for the next head coach. A recommendation from Bill Belichick reportedly help Schiano’s case.

    Schiano couldn’t be more different from Kelly in his coaching philosophy. Kelly is wildly aggressive and inventive. Schiano is much more conservative and prides himself on having a disciplined team. He once coached under Dave Wannstedt, and the two men seem to share a lot of philosophical ideas.

    It’s impossible to tell what college coaches can translate success to the NFL level, but this likely won’t be a popular hire in Tampa. Schiano went 9-4 in 2011 at Rutgers after an ugly 4-8 season in 2010.

    Schefter reports Schiano also interviewed with the Rams this offseason.


I haven't really considered myself a Bucs fan in several years now, due mostly to a waning interest in the NFL in the middle part of the decade. But if I still had any sort of soft spot for them, this deal kills it. I hate this guy. I hate that he's going to be living in the same city as me. I hate that I'm now going to have to see him on TV here. And so on.

But at least I won't have to see him in the Big East anymore, glad USF won't have to play host to him anymore.

In terms of wins and losses, I don't think it's a terrible hire by the Bucs, but I don't think it's a particularly inspiring one either. He has made Rutgers relevant in a few seasons and they've had winning records almost every year lately, which is impressive to do there. But I don't think eight- and nine-win seasons at Rutgers make the guy a lock or even likely candidate for NFL success.

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I was excited for Chip Kelly.



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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    I haven't really considered myself a Bucs fan in several years now, due mostly to a waning interest in the NFL in the middle part of the decade. But if I still had any sort of soft spot for them, this deal kills it.


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So, they went from being close to hiring Chip Kelly, a speed offense coach, to Greg Schiano who is a defensive coach who worked for the 'great' Wannestadt. Perhaps Schiano will be successful, but, it doesn't seem like the Bucs went in thinking about the philosophy of the organization.
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    Originally posted by The Thrill
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      I haven't really considered myself a Bucs fan in several years now, due mostly to a waning interest in the NFL in the middle part of the decade. But if I still had any sort of soft spot for them, this deal kills it.


    I look forward to your new The W handle: "ThePackFan." :-)


He could keep the name and just start rooting for the Pittsburgh Pirates....wait....



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    Originally posted by The Thrill
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      I haven't really considered myself a Bucs fan in several years now, due mostly to a waning interest in the NFL in the middle part of the decade. But if I still had any sort of soft spot for them, this deal kills it.


    I look forward to your new The W handle: "ThePackFan." :-)


I *MAY* have recently become a Packers stockholder...

I love me some Aaron Rodgers, and I hate Brett Favre. It seemed appropriate. But honestly it was mostly because it's just so cool to say I own stock in a football team. My rooting interests usually now are based on guys I liked in college.
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I like the hire, he's an fiery coach with great leadership and discipline. Belichick gave him a great compliment to Peter King. He may not be the biggest name out there, but I think he'll do well. I'm more excited about this guy than any of the retread coaches that were being mentioned before.



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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    So, they went from being close to hiring Chip Kelly, a speed offense coach, to Greg Schiano who is a defensive coach who worked for the 'great' Wannestadt. Perhaps Schiano will be successful, but, it doesn't seem like the Bucs went in thinking about the philosophy of the organization.

Maybe, but between those two philosophies, the better choice was with the guy they actually got. Chip Kelly would have had me nervous as hell - no NFL experience, an offensive system that's almost never worked at the pro level, etc. Schiano, OTOH, has that 3-year stint with the Bears on his resume, so he knows what'll fly in this league and what won't. And let's be real here - the Bucs pretty much stunk all around those last 10 games last season, but the stat that stands out for me is this: dead last in scoring defense, and not even by a close margin. I firmly believed all along that they had to go with a defense-oriented coach, and I'm glad that that's what they ended up doing. It's not a sexy pick by any means, but Schiano literally built the Rutgers program from the ground up, and the skill set necessary to pull off a feat like that translates well to whipping a roster mostly devoid of veterans and loaded with bad attitudes into shape.

    Originally posted by LennyAaronRoxx
    I'm more excited about this guy than any of the retread coaches that were being mentioned before.

Me too. The only name that was out there previously that generated any feeling approaching excitement was Marty Schottenheimer (who probably would have been the choice if he was about 10 years younger). I would have been horrified if Mike Sherman had been the choice as everyone in the media was predicting for weeks.



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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Schiano literally built the Rutgers program from the ground up, and the skill set necessary to pull off a feat like that translates well to whipping a roster mostly devoid of veterans and loaded with bad attitudes into shape.


I don't want to seem dismissive of Schiano's stay at Rutgers, because he made a 150-year-old team relevant on some sort of national scale for the first time in many decades, and it is impressive. But "from the ground up" isn't THAT far for Rutgers. He had double digit wins in a season once and nine wins twice while his school scheduled the softest out-of-conference foes out of anyone in one of the two weakest BCS leagues.

I've seen a lot of Rutgers. In reading about Schiano the past two days, there seems to be this sense of a man who is calm, composed, stoic, but that is the total opposite of my memories of him. He lost his shit repeatedly on the Rutgers sidelines, made faces that Jon Gruden would find scary, yelled at his players in a borderline unprofessional manner as much as any college coach I know... I'm not sure how well all that is going to translate to the NFL.

Like I said, winning six bowl games or whatever at Rutgers is impressive. But he did it in part by playing nobodies. Aside from 2006, when Rutgers inexplicably got into the top 10 at one point, I don't think any of his teams there were really that good.
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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    I would have been horrified if Mike Sherman had been the choice as everyone in the media was predicting for weeks.

Sherman actually did a pretty good job as coach of the Packers. 57-39 record, 4 playoff appearances in 6 seasons. The problem was that Mike Sherman was named the General Manager in June 2001 and he made a bunch of bad contracts that slowly put the team into salary cap hell with bad contracts, culminating in a 4-12 record in 2005. Let him cook the food while someone else buys the groceries, and you should be ok.
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    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    I don't want to seem dismissive of Schiano's stay at Rutgers, because he made a 150-year-old team relevant on some sort of national scale for the first time in many decades, and it is impressive. But "from the ground up" isn't THAT far for Rutgers. He had double digit wins in a season once and nine wins twice while his school scheduled the softest out-of-conference foes out of anyone in one of the two weakest BCS leagues.


Greg Schiano at Rutgers:

2001-2004 (pre-Ray Rice): 12-34
2005-2007 (with Ray Rice): 26-12
2008-2011 (post-Ray Rice): 30-21

I'm not saying Schiano deserves no credit or anything like that, but Ray Rice is really, really good at football and there aren't many guys who can single-handedly swing the fortunes of an NFL franchise like a Ray Rice can with a Big East program.



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Here are some more thoughts from a demented mind in Central Florida:
An interesting note about Schiano: he spent two years as the defensive coordinator for the University of Miami under Butch (Hock! Ptui!) Davis, with the 1999-2000 seasons. In the 2000 season, he had the Canes' defense ranked 5th in the nation in Division 1-A in points allowed per game (15.5). Of course, he was coaching Ed Reed and Jonathan Vilma (as well as Dan Morgan), so he did have some help. They only lost one game that year, an away game at Washington.

Also, in the Tampa Bay area, the Glazers (who own the Bucs) have somewhat of a reputation of... well, of being some cheap motherfuckers. I was shocked by the Albert Haynesworth pickp in 2011, only because the Glazers don't have that reputation of spending $$$ for free agents. It also may explain why they've ultimately hired "no name" coaches in Schiano and Raheem Morris before him after Gruden left.



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