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On The 7 this happens quite frequently, but a new (old) thread has just cropped up, in which serious discussion was being given seven years ago of trading Kobe Bryant to the Knicks for Allan Houston.

That's got to be one of the most ridiculous-in-hindsight basketball discussion threads I've seen here. Especially since Houston would only play 20 games the following year before his knee injury ended his career.

And Kobe is still, well, Kobe, arguably the greatest basketball player alive today.



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I wonder if we'll be having this same conversation in 7 years regarding Bynum and 'Melo? I'll be the first to admit I was wrong and that now I'm glad the Lakers didn't get that deal done.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.44
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    And Kobe is still, well, Kobe, arguably the greatest basketball player alive today.

Funny thread in hindsight to be sure, but regarding this last sentence. Now how can I put this politely?

...

Are you insane??

- StingArmy
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.76
    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
      And Kobe is still, well, Kobe, arguably the greatest basketball player alive today.

    Funny thread in hindsight to be sure, but regarding this last sentence. Now how can I put this politely?

    ...

    Are you insane??

    - StingArmy



Are you suggesting that LeBron's better? Because I don't see any rings on those fingers. (Though I did see the big middle finger he gave to the Cavs).

And I did say "arguably".


(edited by ekedolphin on 26.3.11 0015)


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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.00
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
      Originally posted by StingArmy
        Originally posted by ekedolphin
        And Kobe is still, well, Kobe, arguably the greatest basketball player alive today.

      Funny thread in hindsight to be sure, but regarding this last sentence. Now how can I put this politely?

      ...

      Are you insane??

      - StingArmy



    Are you suggesting that LeBron's better? Because I don't see any rings on those fingers. (Though I did see the big middle finger he gave to the Cavs).

    And I did say "arguably".


    (edited by ekedolphin on 26.3.11 0015)

You've got Kobe ahead of Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem. All of them?
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.84
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
        Originally posted by StingArmy
          Originally posted by ekedolphin
          And Kobe is still, well, Kobe, arguably the greatest basketball player alive today.

        Funny thread in hindsight to be sure, but regarding this last sentence. Now how can I put this politely?

        ...

        Are you insane??

        - StingArmy



      Are you suggesting that LeBron's better? Because I don't see any rings on those fingers. (Though I did see the big middle finger he gave to the Cavs).

      And I did say "arguably".


      (edited by ekedolphin on 26.3.11 0015)

    You've got Kobe ahead of Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem. All of them?

Semantics. Those guys aren't basketball players anymore.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.76
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
        Originally posted by StingArmy
          Originally posted by ekedolphin
          And Kobe is still, well, Kobe, arguably the greatest basketball player alive today.

        Funny thread in hindsight to be sure, but regarding this last sentence. Now how can I put this politely?

        ...

        Are you insane??

        - StingArmy



      Are you suggesting that LeBron's better? Because I don't see any rings on those fingers. (Though I did see the big middle finger he gave to the Cavs).

      And I did say "arguably".


      (edited by ekedolphin on 26.3.11 0015)

    You've got Kobe ahead of Jordan, Bird, Magic, Kareem. All of them?


OK, OK, OK, so I should have said, "Greatest active basketball player living today." And while all of them were great in their time, obviously, if any of them except maybe Michael came back, they'd get torched nowadays.

Good God, especially Larry, whose back was nine kinds of messed up by the time he retired.

(edited by ekedolphin on 26.3.11 0100)


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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.44
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    Semantics. Those guys aren't basketball players anymore.

Semantics my butt. A retired basketball player is still a basketball player. "Basketball player" is not a job title.
    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    OK, OK, OK, so I should have said, "Greatest active basketball player living today." And while all of them were great in their time, obviously, if any of them except maybe Michael came back, they'd get torched nowadays.

Thanks for clarifying, because I honestly thought you were trying to place Kobe above MJ, Magic, Bird, et. al.

- StingArmy
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.76
    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by SchippeWreck
      Semantics. Those guys aren't basketball players anymore.

    Semantics my butt. A retired basketball player is still a basketball player. "Basketball player" is not a job title.
      Originally posted by ekedolphin
      OK, OK, OK, so I should have said, "Greatest active basketball player living today." And while all of them were great in their time, obviously, if any of them except maybe Michael came back, they'd get torched nowadays.

    Thanks for clarifying, because I honestly thought you were trying to place Kobe above MJ, Magic, Bird, et. al.

    - StingArmy


Oh, nononononono.



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I think given his resume at this point Kobe should at least be in the discussion. And I don't even like him.
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