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Since: 12.2.02
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Yesterday the Browns traded for Seneca Wallace for a conditional pick in 2011. Today, Derek Anderson was cut. My bet is that Quinn will still be the starter with Wallace as the backup.

Best wishes to Derek wherever he lands. I wish he had been able to show some signs of adjustments while he was here.

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Great! Another QB for the Rams to consider, before they mess up their draft!
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When I heard rumors that the Seahawks were working out Tebow I thought to myself, "But they already have Seneca Wallace, why would they even bother?" Maybe this answers my question? Tebow to Seattle?

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I don't know enough about Seattle to know if Tebow would be a good fit but I like the idea for Tebow. I like what Maurice Jones-Drew said about Tebow. He shouldn't play in Jacksonville because the guy already has enough pressure, he doesn't need to go to a team expecting him to be the savior. He is better off somewhere as far away from Florida as possible.



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Click Here (sports.espn.go.com)

So let me get this straight: The Browns think that Seneca Wallace is the answer for the QB position. Seneca f'n Wallace. I don't like Brady Quinn, but I still think you have to be nuts to put Wallace ahead of him. While they are playing musical chairs with QBs, they haven't done anything to fix so many of their other problems on the team. No wonder most everyone else still thinks of them as a joke.






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They have the seventh pick and with Clausen, McCoy and Bradford as well as Pike or Teabow on the table, they can trade Brady for cap room and for a higher pick to take the QB they want. Its all about draft position, because they will once again a sure fire QB who will flame out.
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.12
    Originally posted by lotjx
    They have the seventh pick and with Clausen, McCoy and Bradford as well as Pike or Teabow on the table, they can trade Brady for cap room and for a higher pick to take the QB they want. Its all about draft position, because they will once again a sure fire QB who will flame out.


There is no cap this year right?
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    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
    Click Here (sports.espn.go.com)

    So let me get this straight: The Browns think that Seneca Wallace is the answer for the QB position. Seneca f'n Wallace. I don't like Brady Quinn, but I still think you have to be nuts to put Wallace ahead of him. While they are playing musical chairs with QBs, they haven't done anything to fix so many of their other problems on the team. No wonder most everyone else still thinks of them as a joke.






This is probably more Holmgren bringing 'his' players into the organization than anything else.
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    Originally posted by supersalvadoran
    Click Here (sports.espn.go.com)

    So let me get this straight: The Browns think that Seneca Wallace is the answer for the QB position. Seneca f'n Wallace. I don't like Brady Quinn, but I still think you have to be nuts to put Wallace ahead of him. While they are playing musical chairs with QBs, they haven't done anything to fix so many of their other problems on the team. No wonder most everyone else still thinks of them as a joke.

Uhhh, I don't know what that article said when you first linked it but now it says the Browns are toying with the idea of signing Jake Delhomme. Wow. What are they trying to do?? Is some poor confused soul trying to tank the season so they can get LeBron James? Worked for the Cavs! Maybe they think Delhomme is going to pull a Kurt Warner-esque turnaround (he's not).

I know the tandem of Delhomme and Wallace would be better than Quinn and Anderson but so would the tandem of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Hell at this rate why not go fin Jake Plummer? He's probably available. I can't figure this franchise out. At all.

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.10
    Originally posted by StingArmy

    Uhhh, I don't know what that article said when you first linked it but now it says the Browns are toying with the idea of signing Jake Delhomme. Wow. What are they trying to do?? Is some poor confused soul trying to tank the season so they can get LeBron James? Worked for the Cavs! Maybe they think Delhomme is going to pull a Kurt Warner-esque turnaround (he's not).

    I know the tandem of Delhomme and Wallace would be better than Quinn and Anderson but so would the tandem of Rocky and Bullwinkle. Hell at this rate why not go fin Jake Plummer? He's probably available. I can't figure this franchise out. At all.

    - StingArmy


Yeah, when I originally posted the article, it only talked about the Browns shopping Quinn and having Wallace be a stop-gap starting QB for next season. Nothing about Delhomme; I didn't even know about that part until I saw your reply.

That said, I agree with you 100%. I liked Delhomme, but he is so past his prime. And it doesn't matter which team he goes to, without a Steve Smith-type to throw to, he's going to struggle even more. I don't see the point of this; they're just better off trying the Quinn experiment for one more season (maybe allowing him to play a full season for once) and check their options for the next season (if there is one).






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What's to get? The team has proven one thing by the end of last year: They can run. If they improve the QB position, even a little, then the offense should continue to improve as well. The defense certainly needs improvement, especially the secondary.

In looking at who is available in FA, what else does anyone expect them to do? They already signed Pashos and Fujita. The team has 11 picks in the draft so far; that would appear to be the main path they'll use for personnel change.

Rome wasn't built in a day (10 years and counting), and I like to think Holmgren has at least brought some credibility to the organization.




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I still don't think giving up on Quinn so quickly is the answer and may cost them in the long run. He has a big contract, so signing someone like Delhomme and having him mentor Quinn would be a good idea and better idea than trading Quinn and drafting someone who probably wouldn't be very good. I'd use the draft pick for an offensive lineman.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    He has a big contract
Not Really.

Seriously, he's ended up on IR the last two years and actually seemed to regress early last year when given the starting job. More power to the team if they can get something for him and have a definitive plan for the position.




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What could they do that would give them a definitive plan at the position? They drafted him in the 1st round a few years ago. Your solution is probably for them to do that again. Which is contradictory if you think he sucks yet doing the same thing again would solve the problem.



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Well, if you think he sucks, keeping him isn't really the best option either.

Drafting a new QB might be the way to go, at least you're only HALF way sure if he'll suck or not.
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    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    What could they do that would give them a definitive plan at the position? They drafted him in the 1st round a few years ago. Your solution is probably for them to do that again. Which is contradictory if you think he sucks yet doing the same thing again would solve the problem.
Definitive Plans -
Plan 1: Trade Quinn, get a/some picks, let Wallace act as a stopgap/mentor, draft a QB to develop (even in round 3 or 4 would be fine. LeFevour?).

I would also note that in this plan, it's quite impossible to draft Brady Quinn again as he is certainly not draft eligible this year. It's not contradictory to want someone new and possibly better.

Plan 2: Keep Quinn, develop him as your starter, pray he develops with decent mentoring and finally having some consistency in the coaching area.

In either case, Holmgren has made it clear that there will not be a QB derby as in the past several years. THANK GOD.




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Done deal: Delhomme to the Browns. $7 mil this year (plus $12.7 mil more paid by the Panthers.)

If you're gonna pay Jake that kinda dough, I'd say the writing's on the wall for ol' Brady Quinn.






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And now Brady Quinn has been traded to the Broncos.

    Originally posted by Adam Schefter
    Broncos traded FB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 6th-round draft selection and a late-round 2012 pick to Cleveland for quarterback Brady Quinn.
That haul strikes me as, um, low.



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    Originally posted by hansen9j
    And now Brady Quinn has been traded to the Broncos.

      Originally posted by Adam Schefter
      Broncos traded FB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 6th-round draft selection and a late-round 2012 pick to Cleveland for quarterback Brady Quinn.
    That haul strikes me as, um, low.


Congrats Browns fans, you got an over the hill QB that if resurrects his career will give you a few more seasons tops and lost Brady Quinn that if ever starts his career will give you 10-15 good seasons for basically nothing. Hope you are all happy now. Thank god the Raiders and Bills are around to keep you from being the stupidest organization in football, eh?



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