I realize there's no way you could have known this, but just to let you know, we've discussed this at length in the past. Do a search and you'll probably find a couple of threads. Please understand - I'm not picking at you, but not everyone here knows what an "SSp" is. Next time, you may consider a more indicative thread title than "Brock SSp." Just some advice. No one died and made me the Net nanny, I know.
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Chances are pretty good that we won't see Brock's Shooting Star Press any time soon unless Kidman gets fired tomorrow. WWE has a rule about wrestlers 'stealing' each other's signature moves without either a resonable explanation (Kane and Taker used the Tombstone because they were brothers) or as a contending point in a feud (such as with RVD and Eddy a few months back).
Case in point, Big Show's chokelsam. Normally a 7 foot plus guy picking someone up by their throat and slamming them to the ground would be impressive, but since every big man close to 7 foot does it (Kane/Taker/Nash) as well as a man billed at under 200 pounds in the Hurricane, it's not as impressive as it should be.
Keep Brock with the F5 and the bearhug. Both play off his size and strength very well. No need killing off Kidman's appeal to the fans by having a man twice his size pull off his move.
I kinda have a feeling that Brock will debut the Shooting Star Press at Survivor Series. I don't think he can F5 that tub of shit Big Show, and the bear-hug is a little anti-climactic for a PPV finisher.
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I'm also guessing Brock will bust out the SSP at Wrestlemania, hopefully in a match against Kurt Angle. I know people are calling for it at Survivor Series, but I think it'll be infinitely more impressive to see Brock F5 the hell out of Big Slow.
But don't get me wrong. That still doesn't mean Big Show should be in the main event. Hell, WCW gave away Goldberg putting Paul Wight in the Jackhammer for free all the time.
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Thanks Jackson. I don't have a real player (something about last time I d/led it, it said it would only work in 16-color mode and I have 256-color mode on) but thanks for the link. I guess I'd be a real pain if I asked for a .mpg or.avi link of the SSP?
Originally posted by Tribal ProphetSimple WWE logic says that since the crowd will love the move, Brock MUST NOT do it until he's a face. Because rule #1 of the booking commitee says that heels CANNOT BE CHEERED UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH.
Agreed 100%. I think once they turn him face he'll use the Shooting Star Press, but until then it's F5 all over. I just hope do the turn well when they do it.
I don't know about that. RVD's most awesome move (IMHO) is the Van Terminator. RVD's a face but how often does he get to use his big move? I can only remember seeing it twice unless I missed something somewhere.
Originally posted by DarrylTheHitmanI don't know about that. RVD's most awesome move (IMHO) is the Van Terminator. RVD's a face but how often does he get to use his big move? I can only remember seeing it twice unless I missed something somewhere.
I think that that's mostly because the set up for the move is so contrived. You have to get the opponent to hold a chair (which would be a DQ), run all the way to the other side of the ring, get up the turnbuckle, and jump all the way back across the ENTIRE ring. Visually it's impressive, but it's a bitch to make look good every single time, so you save it for special occasions, where big set ups are commonplace.
Since everyone else is doing it (ok, not EVERYONE, but...)
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I hope Heyman's speech about how Brock can't F5 or suplex Show means he just might break out the Shooting Star. I think Show is the perfect crash test dummy for the WWE debut of the move. I remember hearing that Show can do a moonsault but everyone was too scared to take it (not that I blame them). This match could be the greatest spot fest in the history of our sport!
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The story on Show's moonsault is that he was looking to learn it way back when in the Power Plant. No one there wanted to take it though, and the idea was killed by management. This is from Keith, IIRC.
I agree with your Tomko assessment. I think he's a pretty good seller for his size but his offense is very shaky... I really notice this week, he's not really that juiced up looking, he's just tall with a decent build.