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When Ratings were high and storylines were good Russo did all the work for the WWF.

for example,

The DX

The Nation of Domination

The Hart Foundation

The Darkside Undertaker, Gangrel, Edge&Christian.


Can you actually say that the storylines have been good lately for the WWF? Do you like Stephanie's ideas?

The WWF should consider bringing him back to solve this cancer. I mean the WWF does not have to look at the guy, just put a bag on his head and cut two holes out for the eyes.

As much as a SOB he can be he may be the WWF's only cure?

Russo thought the NWO was stupid also!




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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.87
Russo thought the NWO was stupid also!

Only after reforming it and getting fired shortly after.

I will happily take what we're getting now over a steaming pile of Russo, thanks.




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I don't know about him being the cure, but Russo did two things that I think the WWF should adopt right now:

Give midcard guys deeper storylines than "Regal uses knuckles, so he's bad".

Get wrestlers over in stables. DX, Corporation, Hart Foundation, Nation of Domination, The Union, Ministry, Oddities, Brood and J.O.B. Squad are all examples of Stables that appeared on WWF TV under the guidance of Russo, and,even though some of these groups were not exactly earth-shattering in importance (oddities, job squad) most of the WWF's main eventers during the last 3 years have been a part of or feuded with at least one of these stables. Plus, some of the future main eventers apparently (Edge, Test) were as well.



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CFGB, I thought that was Eric Bitchoff? You like how things are in the WWF? So it seems you are no help to the WWF's Cancer.

Russo is the WWF's last hope? I don't mean to sound like a NetCop report on wrestleline.com but this NWO cr@p is either going to skyrocket or bomb! The invasion angle tells all!



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I'm not EVEN going to continue to argue with you until you go read this.

Bischoff was fired about 9 months following his last reformation of the nWo. Russo was fired a month after his.

I don't think things in the WWF are perfect, but it's FAR better than Crash TV. And going back to past mistakes is NOT the key. Russo is completely out of control and has no clue what fans want to see. I don't know what fans want to see, hence I'm not a writer.

What I *do* know is that throwing out segment after segment of childish behavior from the wresters that does nothing to enhance feuds does NOT draw money and does not help the attention spans of the viewers which is getting shorter and shorter.




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Very Good CfGB. and coming very very very soon the reformation part 3.

I still think russo can help the WWF's cause.





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I'll give this reformation the benefit of the doubt, simply because seeing the nWo on WWF TV is going to be surreal. YES, it may be a mistake that rivals that of putting Buff Bagwell vs. Booker T as the first WCW main event on WWF television. But it may not - and if booked properally could be an AWESOME angle.

But to say Vince Russo, a man who sees no PROBLEMS even THINKING for a moment putting the World Title on David Arquette would be better for the federation than the nWo is insane. His ideas are tapped. He proved in WCW he is completely incapable of thinking outside sex and swerves. The wrestling means nothing to him what so ever.

The WWF has flaws and plenty of them. But they're better pressed to find someone new who's ideas haven't been tapped then to revert to the man who singlehandedly put WCW in the grave faster than I ever dreamed possible.




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Something I have noticed about the David Arquette fiasco:

Have people forgotten that Vince Russo himself is a former WCW champion? People think of Russo as a bad booker, and point to the stupid decision to put the World Title on Arquette, but I think he did it because he had already planned to put the Title on himslef in a few months and wanted the Arquette reign to overshadow it so people would forget.



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I think in was a ratings think with David being the champ. Russo thought he my get more viewership, which he totally stunk up, I would think Russo had learned by now of his mistake.

And DDP? "It is not a bad thing doing a Job, It's a good thing."



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Originally posted by CajunMan
I think in was a ratings think with David being the champ. Russo thought he my get more viewership, which he totally stunk up, I would think Russo had learned by now of his mistake.

And DDP? "It is not a bad thing doing a Job, It's a good thing."



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I know, it was one in a series of "shocking" events by WCW in an attampt to gain veiwers. I was being sarcastic to point out that nobody seems to remember Russo beating Booker T for the WCW Heavywieght Title.



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I'm not EVEN going to continue to argue with you until you go read this.



...and look at how much SportsLine stock was trading for at the time!

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every company is having problems within the last two years... that cant be helped...



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Dear god, no, not Russo...
Thought I do like the stables. Remember when it wasn't every wrestler for themselves? I liked those times better. The Tag Team Randomizer wasn't needed most of the time, cos most maineventers had some support.
The only thing close to that now is Canadian Foundation, which only serves to make me like Jericho more.




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To elaborate on a point I already made:

When Russo was booking, what was going on in the main event affected the entire card. Midcarders and main eventers alike were involved in "New Blood vs Millionares club," for example. In the WWF today, on the other hand, the closest thing to an angle going is "Edge has snapped," or "Regal uses brass knuckles to win," and while neither is what I would call bad, they are unoriginal and far too insignificant to make up for the lack of direction all other midcarders are experiencing.



"A lot of guys on this team have a lot of bark, but no bite. Guys have to just shut up and play."
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#15 Posted on
The points already made about Russo's good points I agree with. Do I think he should get another chance though? I'm not real sure about that, but I do agree that the writers right now suck, and some kind of change needs to be made.

As for the David Arquette thing, you have to remember something when Russo was booking or writing for WCW, HE was in charge, if he wanted Arquette as champion, or if he wanted to be champion then it happens. But in the WWF all things go through Vince. If he was back on the writing staff for the WWF nothing like the Arquette fiasco would happen because Vince would nix the idea.



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#16 Posted on
Originally posted by TheBucsFan
To elaborate on a point I already made:

When Russo was booking, what was going on in the main event affected the entire card. Midcarders and main eventers alike were involved in "New Blood vs Millionares club," for example. In the WWF today, on the other hand, the closest thing to an angle going is "Edge has snapped," or "Regal uses brass knuckles to win," and while neither is what I would call bad, they are unoriginal and far too insignificant to make up for the lack of direction all other midcarders are experiencing.



"A lot of guys on this team have a lot of bark, but no bite. Guys have to just shut up and play."
-- WR Keyshawn Johnson, following the playoff loss to Philadelphia




Just wanted to point out that unoriginal angles can work again, if they are simple -> Brass nucs can be used again and again over the years, and as long as they aren't overused it'll be fine. Angles that aren't so simple like the nWo cannot be used again and again, because we've all seen it before and it gets really stale. My opinion? Stables should only make 2 runs. Maybe three at the tops if they're really spaced out. I could probably watch a new Nation of Domination, but I think DX should rest in peace. The only thing that gives the nWo cred is the fact that it's never been done in the WWF.

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#17 Posted on
"I still think russo can help the WWF's cause."

That's a sadly deluded mind right there.

Still, no one should complain about Russo being a former WCW champion, as he won the title simply by being speared by Goldberg through the cage (similar to the Big Show throwing Austin through the cage at the Massacre PPV?). Vince McMahon won the WWF title by actually pinning HHH in a match.

Enough devil's advocate. Russo under supervision simply means no good wrestling, and maybe one in five angles being worthwhile, and not pure rubbish and self gratification.

That's better than Russo being the boss, where everything sucked.

Still, the NWO has better odds than Vinnie Ru I'm thinking.

Prove me wrong.




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#18 Posted on
You can say what you want about Russo, but it was his ideas that started all of the WWF main eventers initial rise to the top. The Rock, Austin, HHH, Kane, etc. You cannot deny him that.



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#19 Posted on
Memory's extremely foggy right now (damn Smirnoff), but didn't the McMahon-Helmsley era start AFTER Vinnie Ru left to kill WCW?

HHH was the champion beforehand, but that whole spiel cemented his status as a top carder in the WWF for as long as he wanted it.

And while Russo may or may not have led to the success of Rocky, Austin, and Kane, he also provided such gems as Beaver Cleavage, and the Race Wars.



No matter how bad things may get, just imagine what would happen if Vince Russo was booking again, and you will feel better.
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#20 Posted on
People actually want Russo back? This is rich.



Yes. I'm looking at you. You slimy fuck.

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