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|  #1 Posted on 31.3.02 1217.27 |
OK - I know they had that IC/US Title Unification match at Survivor Series so technically RVD is the US Champ right now. But Smackdown is looking low on the titles with just the World, Tag and Cruiser titles while RAW has too many with the World, IC, useless Euro and even more useless Hardcore titles.
So why not bring the US Title back to even things out. I think it'd work pretty well for each show to have its own #2 belt.
I mean - it's not like Vince CAN'T (or WOULDN'T) do something like this.
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| #2 Posted on 31.3.02 1220.23 | Instant Rating: 4.42 | But that would still leave RAW with too many belts.
I say just send the European Title to Smackdown.
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| #3 Posted on 31.3.02 1222.40 | The only good angle to bring back the U.S. belt would be Kanyon bringing it back with him when he returns. Just kind of declaring himself life-time US champ and playing it up in that classic Kanyon fashion. Man, I miss him...heal quickly, oh Innovator. :)
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|  #4 Posted on 31.3.02 1223.34 | | If Smackdown is going to be the wrestling oriented show,then i'd rather they didn't have too many belts to use as a crutch and actually came up with decent feuds. | oldschoolhero
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|  #5 Posted on 31.3.02 1443.51 | But on the flip side you need SOMETHING for the micard guys to aim for. Otherwise, what are the guys not at the top of the card even bothering for? There's no midcard title and therefore no mythical pay raise or elevation
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| #6 Posted on 31.3.02 2118.15 | They don't really need an added belt. In fact, they are one belt too heavy.
Smackdown has the Cruiserweight and Tag team belts, Raw has the IC belt, the Hardcore belt and the Euro belt.
They need to merge the IC and Euro belts, or get rid of it altogether.
If you move one of the raw belts to smackdown then smackdown is a belt heavy... and with the tag team belts requiring FOUR wrestlers for a title match, you could argue that they *really* couldn't absorb another singles belt.
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| #7 Posted on 31.3.02 2129.44 | I wish the WWF would get the picture that most of your average sports entertainment fans give not a whip about Europe, remember how the European title came about, or have even a clue as to why they should care who has it aside from the WWF saying we should (sometimes).
What the Euro title is really good for is to always be a heel-owned belt. It's such a great gimmick for heels like D-Lo and Christian to just randomly represent European countries...but whenever a face has the Euro title...it doesn't matter.
I think the U.S. title, aside from its lineage, has a great name...United States champion. It's so much better than Intercontinental champ--which of course is no different from a World champ with the exception of not defending the title on islands or in the ocean.
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| #8 Posted on 31.3.02 2233.59 | I say they should dig the Television Title out of whatever trash can Scott Hall threw it into.
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| #9 Posted on 31.3.02 2303.22 | Instant Rating: 5.37 | O.K. I know I am beating my own dead horse here but if anything Smackdown should have a Canadian belt. Maybe Lance still has his old one.
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| #10 Posted on 31.3.02 2334.57 | Understanding that no one wants to see either brand belt heavy, I really think that both shows should have a US Championship type belt. That way, you can have the World Champion (in this case, HHH), and a champion to represent each organization. You can't very well use the Cruiserweight strap as that belt if half the talent is barred from competeting for it because the scale eliminates them.
For example:
It would be like the old NWA, but on a much larger and more national level. In the days of old, Wahoo McDaniel would be the Mid Atlantic Champion, Vlade Divac would be the Kingsland Champion, but the Nature Boy would be the World Champ, and show up periodically on each show.
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| #11 Posted on 1.4.02 0000.08 | Instant Rating: 0.00 | The U.S. title and the i.c. belt on different shows would have been nice. But since they dont have the u.s. belt anymore they should just put the euro belt there. Maybe find someway to change it's name or graduate into a different belt for the title holder to bear.
Why not bring back the tv title and make the champ an actual tv champ. Give the champion the ability to float between both shows and he can only lose it on tv. I think that would be perfect. Bring some history back!
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| #12 Posted on 1.4.02 0144.30 |
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| #13 Posted on 1.4.02 0657.04 | I think that the Euro Title needs a couple of strong feuds over it now that it could be seen as higher profile. It could be a stepping stone belt. You have to win it to become elligable for all the other belts. and you must defend it every sweek . So it's kind of an Iron Man test to see if you have what it takes to make it in the WWF. a three to five week run with a belt is good if it means you have wrestled every week. I think a good place for the matches would be the last match of the first half of each show, kind of like a secondary main event. Then as a bonus, ppvs should be an event where all the titles are on the line that day.
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| #14 Posted on 1.4.02 0757.15 | i'd love to see them swap the euro belt for the u.s. it's just not going to happen though.
the wcw world belt is on tv ("from a certain point of view") because it is the stuffed head of vince's rival, mounted and hung up in his den. the cruiserweight belt is a fluke - it has a more marketable name and the light heavyweight division was created because of wcw's hot cruiser division.
i'm sure vince will get a title or two for smackdown at backlash. it's too early to tell for sure, but i think flair controlling so many titles is just for storyline purposes.
It's just you against the group mind.
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| #15 Posted on 1.4.02 1128.12 | Bring back the National Title! Arn Anderson probably has it lying around someplace after he unified it with the World TV title.
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| #16 Posted on 3.4.02 0220.57 | Instant Rating: 8.00 | I like the Euro title, it makes the WWF seem like it is truly international (it is the World Wrestling Federation after all) and on pure scale it is more of a international title than a US only belt would be, by that logic it sits along an Intercontinental belt quite nicely in the way the WWF presents itself. The WWF has always presented itself as a "World leader" rather than solely as a US promotion (which it is, of course, in reality) so the concept of using a Euro belt fits well IMO, moreso than by having a US title.
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|  #17 Posted on 4.4.02 1835.14 | Instant Rating: 5.01 | I say, what does it matter what the bloody belt is called? When was the last time the European Title was defended in Europe, anyway? I can only think of three occasions in which it changed hands in Europe.
Despite the fact that the WWF is called the World Wrestling Federation, the WWF doesn't really tour out of North America all that much. There are the occassional trips to the UK (and an annual PPV, Insurrection, that's UK-exclusive), and maybe a European tour every now and then, but... you know?
Anyway. My point is not to debate whether or not the WWF is the premiere sports-entertainment entity in the world, because clearly it is. But if we're to decide whether or not to keep the European Title or replace it with another belt, I'd lean towards the latter. If we want to be technically correct, a U.S. or Canadian Title would work. Or a Television Title. Give the Intercontinental Title to one of the touring groups, and the US/Canadian/Television Title to the other, and the belt would (theoretically) denote one of the top guys in that group.
Or maybe a North American Title would be good.
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| #18 Posted on 5.4.02 1135.37 | Instant Rating: 8.00 | It matters how they name the "bloody belts" because the WWF is all about superficial perception, and always has been, haven't they always gone on and on about their world presence? If it wasn't so important to have that slant on things they'd be the USWF, and a bunch of Panda lovers wouldn't be so bothered about the initials being used worldwide. Why should the Euro title be defended in Europe regularly anyway when the Cruiserweight champion has almost exclusively wrestled heavyweights for the last six months? You can't apply logic to the WWF  .
But anyway, to the real point at hand. It doesn't bother me about the lack of titles on SD. Maybe the belts can be lent upon in the more gimmick heavy Raw, but perhaps (fingers crossed) they might have to rely more on simple wrestling based feuds on SD. Well, I can dream can't I?  .
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| #19 Posted on 5.4.02 1829.57 | Hell, let's bring back the Western States title while we're at it. Doesn't Barry Windham have that belt from his old days?
Honestly, they need to put a singles belt on SD for the mid-carders, and also make the World Tag Belts for both shows, meaning Billy and Chuck would defend on Raw and SD.
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