I have a pretty negative opinion of Favre both as a player (I think he's way overrated) and a person (I think he's pretty clearly a dick). I love the idea of the Packers never retiring No. 4, but that was probably never a realistic possibility.
So what do the many Packers fans here think? Are you ready to forgive Favre and make him a Packer again? Or is there some other kind of display of humility you want from him first?
I was down on Favre pretty early, I think my posts in the thread from him unretiring in 2008 verify that. Some embarrassment there, too, like the possibility that Brian Brohm was the QB of the future in GB. Oops. There were a lot of Packer fans who were on his side when the Packers traded him to New York. I still occasionally see #4 Jets jerseys here. Obviously everyone decided that it was the right course of action by the end of Super Bowl XLV.
That said, I always thought that the retired number would play out about how it has. After a few years of being actually retired, (but before he gets into the NFL HoF) the hurt feelings on both sides have lessened. I agree with tbf about Favre as a person, but not retiring the number just brings more attention to him. And I do think he's deserving of it. He can get his accolades from the Lambeau crowd one more time (or not, if people there aren't down for it). And we can finally stop talking about Brett Favre once and for all, I hope.
"I'm pretty sure [Andre Caldwell]'ll do a lot more with Manning than he did with Andy Dalton." - StaggerLee
Originally posted by me in the thread Boffo linked toAlso, goddamn it, Brett. Please don't do anything that's going to make me hate you. Please.
Originally posted by me in the post-Super Bowl threadI didn't hate Favre when he went to the Jets, I just wished that he had walked off into the sunset. ... [When Favre signed with Minnesota] I truly evolved into having an actual raw, passionate hatred for Favre (to go with my raw, passionate hatred for the Vikings).
In the afterglow of a title and Rodgers being awesome and Favre being out of the spotlight, I've softened to the degree that I'm fine with him having his numbered retired, but I'm not going to be particularly moved by it.
I am why James is crying.
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The get together with Aaron at the NFL Awards show helped. Him offering up that he was partially at fault is icing on the cake. I was always hoping that there would be a reconciliation before he was inducted into Canton, but I wasn't sure it could happen. Now, it seems inevitable.
BUT, I could see Brett holding out for some sort of statement of guilt from Ted Thompson. As I said in that thread from 2008, this whole thing was handled really poorly. Some admission of guilt from the Packers is probably ncessary to get Brett back at Lambeau. Sports radio in the area seems to be 60-40 positive on his return at this point, which is WAY up from where it had been 6 months ago.
"Please God, show me how Whites are held down by Tony Dungee being hired as the head coach in Indianapolis." The same way blacks are being held down by Steve Marriuchi being head coach in Detroit (as people have already said).