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    Originally posted by ESPN.com

    With his family "tugging" on him to play, Brett Favre has an "itch" to come out of retirement and report to training camp with the Green Bay Packers later this month, according to sources close to the team and player.

    Favre has communicated his potential desire to coach Mike McCarthy but talks have not advanced to a substantive stage, a Packers source said.

    The source said the Packers would be reluctant to open the door for Favre because "Brett retired for the right reasons, even though I know his family is tugging on him [to play]."

    Another source conceded Favre was "getting the itch" to play football in 2008.

    However, Favre's agent downplayed the likelihood that the quarterback could un-retire or that he was prepared to report to camp July 28.



I can not imagine Favre coming back for any team besides the Packers. I think they jsut don't htink it's a good idea for him to come back.

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The Packers are ready to move on. Aaron Rodgers is in his 4th season; his rookie contract was for 5 years. They've got a season or two to find out whether they can build a championship team with him, or whether they need to start planning for Brian Brohm (or someone else) as the starting QB.
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The perfect ending to this is Favre telling the Pack to reactivate him, they release him, and he takes over for the Bears at QB, and everyone in Wisconsin has a simultaneous anuerysm at the sight of him trotting onto Lambeau Field in the Bears road uniform.



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I'm so tired of this story, I wish he would just make up his mind and stop leaving the Packers and Rodgers twisting in the wind. That said, he still has some goods left in his arm based on last season and I can see him coming back... just not to Green Bay. I think the Pack, as much as they love Favre, are ready to move on without him. Instead, I could see him going to a team nearer to his home in Mississippi who might be playoff contenders without a real good QB, like maybe Charlotte or Miami.
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    Originally posted by spf
    The perfect ending to this is Favre telling the Pack to reactivate him, they release him, and he takes over for the Bears at QB, and everyone in Wisconsin has a simultaneous anuerysm at the sight of him trotting onto Lambeau Field in the Bears road uniform.





And then throwing 6 picks as he tries to win the game all by himself. I still think Favre went out the right way: Throwing a horrible interception in overtime that ended his team's season. Only sad thing is it wasn't the worst playoff overtime season ending interception that Favre had thrown in his career, the worst of course being in the 4th and 26 game against the Eagles. Packers still should have gone for it on 4th and an inch with a chance to ice it in the 4th quarter.
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by spf
      The perfect ending to this is Favre telling the Pack to reactivate him, they release him, and he takes over for the Bears at QB, and everyone in Wisconsin has a simultaneous anuerysm at the sight of him trotting onto Lambeau Field in the Bears road uniform.





    And then throwing 6 picks as he tries to win the game all by himself. I still think Favre went out the right way: Throwing a horrible interception in overtime that ended his team's season. Only sad thing is it wasn't the worst playoff overtime season ending interception that Favre had thrown in his career, the worst of course being in the 4th and 26 game against the Eagles. Packers still should have gone for it on 4th and an inch with a chance to ice it in the 4th quarter.

Thanks, both of you, for those perfectly wonderful sharp sticks in the eye :-)

Latest word from the Biloxi Herald is Favre saying it's nothing. I'm not sure what to believe, but figure it will all be worked out by the start of the season.

ETA: Source http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/07/02/favre-to-biloxi-it-all-rumor.aspx

(edited by Sec19Row53 on 2.7.08 2135)
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    Originally posted by spf
    The perfect ending to this is Favre telling the Pack to reactivate him, they release him, and he takes over for the Bears at QB, and everyone in Wisconsin has a simultaneous anuerysm at the sight of him trotting onto Lambeau Field in the Bears road uniform.


So sad the Bears haven't had a good QB since they played in Wrigley Field.

Remember Jim McMahon? It was terrible that he had to get that last Super Bowl ring with the Packers after Ditka's "All-Time Greats" choked away the mid-80's.....



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    Originally posted by spf
    The perfect ending to this is Favre telling the Pack to reactivate him, they release him...


Uh, no. Jason Wilde from the Wisconsin State Journal said last night that conversations between Favre and coach Mike McCarthy and GM Ted Thompson ended with Favre asking for his release, and the Packers denying him.

BTW, Favre is officially on the NFL's reserve-retired list, so the Packers can spend his cap money if they want to.

But it doesn't matter because of what Favre told the Biloxi Sun-Herald. It AIN'T HAPPENIN', PEOPLE.

Geez, I've had it with this merry-go-round. Hell, I've already written the Real Men of Genius spot about all this. ("Today we salute you, Mr. Can't-Stay-Retired Quarterback.")









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    Originally posted by The Thrill
      Originally posted by spf
      The perfect ending to this is Favre telling the Pack to reactivate him, they release him...


    Uh, no. Jason Wilde from the Wisconsin State Journal said last night that conversations between Favre and coach Mike McCarthy and GM Ted Thompson ended with Favre asking for his release, and the Packers denying him.

    BTW, Favre is officially on the NFL's reserve-retired list, so the Packers can spend his cap money if they want to.


However, if he tells them he's coming back, they have to activate him, and if doing so puts them over the cap, they'd have restructure / cut people to get back under it.

Originally I was thinking the Packers had all the leverage, and if he wanted to play he'd have to wait until they traded him. But if a team trades for him, then they've got him and his $12 million salary for the season. He can choose to renegotiate, of course, but I think it's going to be hard to find bidders under those circumstances. And if they can't work out a trade deal, they'd have to cut him eventually (if talks break down, I could see the Packers trading him to Miami for next to nothing just to keep him away from NFC North teams). Either way, the Packers have to choose between him and Rodgers, I think. Demoting Rodgers means you've given up on him, and I think would create a huge rift between him and Favre in the locker room.
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The way I understand it, is if he asked to be reactivated and the Packers decline, they must release him, making him a free agent.


Favre going pass happy in Tampa seems like a good fit.
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Wait a second - does this count as the Madden Cover curse? It totally makes sense now.



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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Favre going pass happy in Tampa seems like a good fit.
Atlanta makes more sense.
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Welcome home, men of the 2nd Bn, 127th Inf, 32d "Red Arrow" Brigade, WI Army Nat'l Guard! Good luck to those down south.

And now...the Packers are sending reps to Mississippi, and Ted Thompson won't return Bus Cook's calls!? (WBAY...my employer)

Every frickin' year. It NEVER ends.

As for official procedure:

"According to the report, Favre would have to give a written request to the Green Bay Packers to be reinstated. The Packers would then have 24 hours to decide whether to reinstate Favre or release him.

The option does exist for the Packers to active him, and then, if they're not interested in his services, they could trade him."












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I am not shocked whatsoever that there's ramblings on Favre's 'comeback'. I just hope by some miracle he winds up with the Jets. Not sure he's coming back, not sure he should, not sure if I'm even wearing clean socks, but I really pray that for some reason, he's in kelly green and white next season.

(edited by Lexus on 9.7.08 0503)


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    Originally posted by Lexus
    I am not shocked whatsoever that there's ramblings on Favre's 'comeback'. I just hope by some miracle he winds up with the Jets. Not sure he's coming back, not sure he should, not sure if I'm even wearing clean socks, but I really pray that for some reason, he's in kelly green and white next season.

    (edited by Lexus on 9.7.08 0503)


Now I'm having a flashback to commercial for Sega's old NFL game when Joe Montana is sacked after being distracted by a grotesquely fat fan in the stands, and then his jersey immediately switches to a Jets uniform when the voiceover mentions the game's trade feature.



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The Packers organization still has not commented, making me wonder if they think that ignoring Favre will mean he'll go away. I'm also fairly certain that Favre playing for the Bears is a sign of the Apocalypse.

Of course, I'm rooting for a stint with the Jets, just to see the collective ESPN wet dream of a Favre/Brady matchup.

    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Wait a second - does this count as the Madden Cover curse? It totally makes sense now.


That's...just...a very eerie coincidence. Good lord, that cover just means DEATH at this point, doesn't it?

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Now I'm having a flashback to commercial for Sega's old NFL game when Joe Montana is sacked after being distracted by a grotesquely fat fan in the stands, and then his jersey immediately switches to a Jets uniform when the voiceover mentions the game's trade feature.


You mean this one?




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    Originally posted by Big Bad
      Originally posted by Lexus
      I am not shocked whatsoever that there's ramblings on Favre's 'comeback'. I just hope by some miracle he winds up with the Jets. Not sure he's coming back, not sure he should, not sure if I'm even wearing clean socks, but I really pray that for some reason, he's in kelly green and white next season.

      (edited by Lexus on 9.7.08 0503)


    Now I'm having a flashback to commercial for Sega's old NFL game when Joe Montana is sacked after being distracted by a grotesquely fat fan in the stands, and then his jersey immediately switches to a Jets uniform when the voiceover mentions the game's trade feature.


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And this story has suddenly gotten VERY interesting! Brett Favre wants OUT!

ESPN - Favre seeks unconditional release from Packers, sources say


    HATTIESBURG, Miss -- Three days after a conference call with Green Bay Packers team officials on Tuesday in which quarterback Brett Favre emphatically expressed his desire to play in 2008, Favre on Friday formally asked for his contractual release from the Packers in a letter, sources close to Favre and the team said.

    The letter was sent by Favre's agent, James "Bus" Cook, via overnight mail on Thursday and arrived at the Packers facility Friday morning.

    Cook, on behalf of Favre, expressed a desire to have an amicable parting, as the Packers have been reluctant to embrace his return. Favre announced his retirement in early March.

    During a conference call on Tuesday that included Packers general manager Ted Thompson, Packers coach Mike McCarthy, Favre and Cook, sources say that the quarterback stated emphatically that he wanted to play again.


The unthinkable scenario of Brett Favre in a Bears uniform is actually one step closer...




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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by It's False
    The unthinkable scenario of Brett Favre in a Bears uniform is actually one step closer...


Yea, this is the important paragraph to that extent:


    Favre does not want to be traded, sources said, because he wants the freedom of choice to play for any other franchise.


There's no way the Packers can sanely let him go without preventing him from signing with a divisional rival, but Favre specifically wants that ability. That'll be the big negotiating point.



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Nothing has to happen yet. Favre hasn't requested that he be removed from the reserved-retired list (he's requested a release from his contract). Until he makes that request, the Packers aren't obligated to do anything.

If this reporting is just missing that detail, then never mind. If not, then it's still much ado about nothing.

Frankly, I see no way that the Packers release him. He'll either get traded, or play for the Packers (unless he decides to stay retired). He's always had an addictive personality, so I'm not surprised in the least that he needs the spotlight.
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