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i know this is an old subject but i just watched the wrestling with shadows dvd again and noticed something. i dont know if this has been mentioned before, but it was supposedly agreed beforehand that it would be a schmozz DQ finish with a run in. if this would be for shawn michaels then it would be hunter to run in. hunter denies knowing what went on so would therefore be running in. right? so why was he in his travel clothes rather than wrestling gear when he came to fetch shawn from the ring minutes from his supposed run in?
if this has been brought up before i apologise but found this curious

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.53
There dozens of little inconsistencies like that, and most have been discussed and debated to death; it's pro wrestlings version of the JFK conspiracy. There's some who believe the whole thing was a worked angle designed to launch Vince as the lead heel.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
I believe the plan was for the Hart Foundation to make the run in, therefore HHH wouldn't have needed his ring gear.

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.61
Hunter, Chyna, Owen, and Davey were all booked to run in.


Hunter knew they were going to doublecross Hart.


Hunter could've done a run-in in plainclothes.

p.s. it wasn't a work, I swear.

(edited by JMShapiro on 15.7.04 1916)

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
I hate to make basically the same post twice, but according to Melter's account of it, the run in was supposed to be made by Owen, Smith, and Neidhart. HHH and Chyna were not scheduled to run to the ring. But you are right, Shapiro, HHH could have made the run-in in plainclothes.
Tribal Prophet

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.71
I might be wrong, but wasn't Triple H still basically doing the "Blue-Blood Snob" gimmick at that time? Those clothes he was wearing would have been pretty much his in-character outfit just like Austin's vest.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.61
Hart Foundation were supposed to run-in after the sharpshooter reversal that never happened to break up a Michaels pin on Bret. But the DQ would come five minutes later in the schmozz with DX running in. It's not in the first story that's on Bret's site, but in the followup issue, Dave had the agreed upon finish by Bret, McMahon, and Michaels. After the hot final five minutes after the Harts run-in ...

"Hart would have the sharpshooter on Michaels when Rick Rude, Chyna, and Hunter Hearst Helmsley would hit the ring. Rude would never get into the ring but his briefcase would be thrown into the ring. Hart would win on a DQ for the outside interference by HHH and Chyna. They were trying to create an ending for one big pop at the end by the fans in Montreal, since the outside interference DQ would be a weak 'groan' finish for such a highly anticipated PPV match, and appeared to have settled on Hart getting the briefcase in a struggle and knocking out Chyna, who had yet to sell anything big in the WWF up to that point."

-11/24/97 WON

But I like the way they say it themselves, in the transcript of Bret and Vince's conversation from the day of the show. (Bret was wearing a wire, as seen in Wrestling With Shadows.)

Hart: What would you want to do today then?

McMahon: I don't know, maybe some sort of a, well, we always have DX there to interfere. I'm trying to rack my brain thinking about doing something like this whereby it won't end too, you know. If you had Shawn in the sharpshooter for arguments sake and then DX feeds in, you can have Hunter take a bump and that sort of a thing to not make it too flat. Take a swing at Chyna and let her fall down or I don't know if you want to do that or not. I'm trying to think of something. Rick [Rude] could slip on his ass or something.

- 12/21/98 WON

And so that's what they "agree" on. Conversation ends with Bret getting up to find Shawn and Pat to discuss the ins and outs of the match, which is where Pat suggests the sharpshooter reversal spot that they used to doublecross him.

(edited by JMShapiro on 16.7.04 0107)

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.04
I always like the "Rick could slip on his ass or something" line from Vince. So Rick was going to run down and take a prat fall?

Triple H was still in the transition from Snob to Dick Joke Guy at that point. Plus he didn't wrestle on the show so why would he have his gear on?

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.44
If there was one thing I wish I could erase from wrestling history would be this "screw-job".(OK, Owen's tragic death is #1, but this is close 2nd) Not the "screw job" itself pisses me off, but it's the CONSTANT whining about it from smarks and Bret. Poor Earl Hebner was almost killed in Canada for just doing his job calling for the bell. I'm not going to argue over things. We have to do things we don't like, Bret should have layed down for Shawn, after having a great match making both performers look good, that is now overshadowed by the ending "screw job".

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Reminds me of the question of what ever happened to David Flair ? It would be kinda of interesting if the WWE made a stable of famous wrestlers offspring. Have them be a bunch of spoiled loud-mouthed cocky hooligans.
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