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Since: 12.10.02
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Bret Hart joined Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez on the Wrestling Observer Live radio show for about 45 minutes tonight. I figured with all the "rumors" out there lately about Bret, I'd provide a recap of what Bret said to clear them up.

-Bret had a very tough time after his stroke, emotionally and physically but he's made a good recovery. He can now walk with just a light limp and has begun working out a little bit. He still has trouble walking for extended periods of time and in the cold. He also has some trouble lifting heavy objects, especially above his head. His main goal is to walk without any sort of limp and perhaps run again.

-He's almost finished the second book of a Trilogy. He expects to finish the third in the Summer and the first book to be released next Fall. Each book will be about 600 pages in length. He said he goes into great depth about the art of wrestling.

-Vince McMahon: Vince called him shortly after the stroke and they had a nice conversation. He met with Vince not too long ago when he was in Florida and got use of his all his photos. Bret feels that he doesn't want all his work in the ring to be forgotten and spoke to Vince about releasing some DVDs with his greatest matches on them. He felt that Owen would also like his work to be remembered in a similar fashion.

-Vince made the offer for Bret to come back but Bret said that he's not going to. He doesn't want to be involved in a storyline or anything of that nature, it's just not in the cards. He's thought about coming back for just one night to say goodbye but feels that opportunity is lost and the only way for it to truly matter would to do a storyline to set it up and he doesn't want that. So he never sees himself being on RAW or anything.

-He feels he buried the hatchet somewhat with Vince because he doesn't want to be a bitter old man. He just wants to move on with his life. He also wants to be treated with some respect by WWE for all the work he did for them. He also doesn't want his problems with Vince getting in the way of family members like Harry Smith and Teddy Hart working there.

-He felt Martha Hart's book was a little self serving and she was wrong about Owen hating be a pro wrestler. But he said that was more that Martha never knew Owen, the wrestler. He put over how much pride Owen had in his work and all the friends he made on the road.

That was the major portion of the conversation. So in conclusion, all you that hope to see Bret back in the WWE, stop.
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Thank God.

I have not wanted to see Bret back in WWE ever. The book is closed. I am glad he has the dignity not to return. I never want to see this as long as I live. It would mean Bret had no pride or honor at all, after the things he said. His burying the hatchet with Vince is also good, it shows maturity and intelligence. But that doesn't mean he should come back. Hopefully from now on we need not click on any links to wrestling news sites that claim Bret will do any of the following things...


-Manage Lance Storm
-come back to have a triple threat with Vince and Hogan
-Manage Chris Benoit
-battle Goldberg in a "you broke my fucking brain" match
-Manage Edge
-Reform the Hart Foundation with any combination of Edge, Christian, Jericho, Test, or Lance Storm
-Manage Stephanie McMahon

Or anything that involves his return. Bret, thanks for the memories and I'll read the books. But please, for the love of God, stay out of wrestling...



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
I really, really, really hope he gets some peace of mind.

I'd like to see him come out on a RAW and say goodbye, but it would be okay if he doesn't. Best of luck to him.



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Has everyone drank the Naive Kool-Aid or something? I mean, no offence, but if a guy crops up on a wrestling radio show two dyas before a major event denying any involvement with a company, then you can usually expect the opposite. I don't think it's any different for Bret, especially considering he just happened to offer a convenient explanation for what he was doing shadowing the fed in Florida for two-three days.

I don't particularly wanna see Bret back either; but I'm not going to go accepting that it's never gonna happen because of one interview with the man himself.
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It's good to read that recap and find that Bret sounds surprisingly.. sane. It really seems like he's come to terms with a lot of the bad stuff life has dealt him the past few years.

And anyone who's watched wrestling long enough to remember Bret Hart's prime is lying their fool heads off if they say they wouldn't TOTALLY mark out to see him on WWE programming, whether or not any following angle would be good.



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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by Ana Ng
    It's good to read that recap and find that Bret sounds surprisingly.. sane. It really seems like he's come to terms with a lot of the bad stuff life has dealt him the past few years.

    And anyone who's watched wrestling long enough to remember Bret Hart's prime is lying their fool heads off if they say they wouldn't TOTALLY mark out to see him on WWE programming, whether or not any following angle would be good.



I guess a near death experience can do that to you, making you 'sane' again.





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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    Originally posted by dMp

      Originally posted by Ana Ng
      It's good to read that recap and find that Bret sounds surprisingly.. sane. It really seems like he's come to terms with a lot of the bad stuff life has dealt him the past few years.

      And anyone who's watched wrestling long enough to remember Bret Hart's prime is lying their fool heads off if they say they wouldn't TOTALLY mark out to see him on WWE programming, whether or not any following angle would be good.



    I guess a near death experience can do that to you, making you 'sane' again.




Well, a near death experience certainly beats out "getting screwed in Montreal" as far as importance goes. He just needed some perspective.








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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.20
Thanks for the recap, fuel. I never put any faith into wrestling interviews, since the work/reality line is very blurred. Still, some interesting stuff to chew on. If nothing else, it seems his WWE legacy will be intact.



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    He's thought about coming back for just one night to say goodbye but feels that opportunity is lost and the only way for it to truly matter would to do a storyline to set it up and he doesn't want that. So he never sees himself being on RAW or anything.

    So in conclusion, all you that hope to see Bret back in the WWE, stop.




You take that to mean he's never coming back? The man was screwed by Vince and he still wanted to come back for one night to say goodbye. He just stated that he doesn't see a good way to work it out. You're telling me if he and Vince came up with a good idea to do it classy, he wouldn't come back for one night and say goodbye?

I'm a little confused by those who say they don't want to ever see him back. I think they see "coming back" as "ruining his career" and Bret should leave us with the memories. This isn't like a Ric Flair thing where he'd come back and linger for a year - we're talking about one night, one segment. Have WWE hype it for a few days, then have Bret show up, cut a 5 minute promo about his career and how he never got to say goodbye and thank you to everybody, how he doesn't hate Vince and wants to bury the hatchet, and go out looking classy.

Remember, the last WWE Bret Hart image we have is him destroying the set and spitting on Vince. He carried the WWE through the 90's, and should go out on a much higher note. I see now a better time than any.



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    Originally posted by FurryHippie
    You're telling me if he and Vince came up with a good idea to do it classy, he wouldn't come back for one night and say goodbye?


First of all, the words "classy" and "Vince McMahon" should never be uttered in the same sentence.

Second, let's all agree that Vince is one sick, vindictive piece of work. He never misses an opportunity to take shots at Bret, and encourages his wrestlers (witness HBK, for one) to do the same. You really think he'd allow Bret a "classy" exit?

Sooner or later, Bret will make a return to the WWE. Sad to say, it will be for one reason only: he'll need the money. And mark my words, the price for taking Vince's money will be that Vince will use the opportunity to, in some way, make a fool of Bret.

Again.

Vince McMahon is a classless piece of crap. He's the kind of pig who makes sure he gets mud on EVERYbody.
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He had a STROKE for god's sake. The man gets exhausted just by talking for extended periods of time and can hardly walk by 8PM in the evening.

It's not like this interview was on Byte This or some show like that. Bret's word has always been gold to a fault. So when the man says he's never coming back, I believe him.

Bret was in Florida to drop the puck at a hockey game, that's why he happened to be in Florida.
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It appears as though he has put the past behind him and has buried his demons. That is a good thing and I hope that he is able to recover and regain the ability to run.





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    Originally posted by fuelinjected
    He had a STROKE for god's sake. The man gets exhausted just by talking for extended periods of time and can hardly walk by 8PM in the evening.

    It's not like this interview was on Byte This or some show like that. Bret's word has always been gold to a fault. So when the man says he's never coming back, I believe him.

    Bret was in Florida to drop the puck at a hockey game, that's why he happened to be in Florida.



If I remember correctly, Bret also swore up and down that he didn't meet with Vince while they were in Florida right after the fact. How gold is that?

Everything in wrestling is a work, unless it's true, I'll believe Bret won't be back on WWE TV when I don't see it.

That was a bit more confusing than it needed to be.



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