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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.88

Nothing really groundbreaking here (sportsillustrated.cnn.com), but I found it pretty interesting in the fact that it garners some mainstream press for the Hall of Fame.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
Great story.

I've gotta admit, though: with all the talk about how Bret would walk out if Shawn Michaels was present in the building, I can almost see them trying to pull something with Shawn for the sake of creating controversy.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.88
    Originally posted by Phantom
    Great story.

    I've gotta admit, though: with all the talk about how Bret would walk out if Shawn Michaels was present in the building, I can almost see them trying to pull something with Shawn for the sake of creating controversy.


Instead of that, why not just have Vince walk up and spit in Bret's face ...

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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.06
I think its kinda dickish for Bret to threaten a walk-out if Shawn shows up, since they are inducting Eddie Guererro on the same night.

(edited by StevieRichards on 29.3.06 1622)


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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.89
I think someone's misquoting.

It was Shawn Michaels who said he'd no-show if it ment Bret Hart would be there. Not Hart saying he'd be there only if Shawn wasn't.
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Since: 26.11.04
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by Mr Tuesday
    I think someone's misquoting.

    It was Shawn Michaels who said he'd no-show if it ment Bret Hart would be there. Not Hart saying he'd be there only if Shawn wasn't.


Nobody's misquoting. From the SI interview: "I've made it pretty clear that I don't want to be around Shawn," said Hart, who also doesn't plan on speaking with wrestlers such as Terry Bollea (Hulk Hogan), Paul Levesque (Triple H) and Richard Fliehr (Ric Flair), with whom he's traded personal barbs in the past but whose presence he will tolerate for one night. "Shawn's different. If I even see Shawn I'll probably get back in the cab and you'll have your April Fool's. I won't have him around. I won't allow myself to be agitated by his presence. If I have to deal with that, I'd rather not even be there."

And from a Calgary Sun interview (found here: http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2006/03/26/1506615.html): Hart's final request pertains to the man who cheated him out of the WWF title all those years ago in Montreal, Shawn Michaels.

The Hall of Fame would be the first time the two have come face to face since that match -- but not if the Hitman has anything to do with it.

"I've basically told them that if I see Shawn, I'll get back in a cab and go straight to the airport. They'll have to get him to do my induction speech. I just feel that there's too much anger for me. Too combustible."
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.52
After reading the HBK Autobiography, I find it hard to believe that Shawn and Bret have not already made amends. Shawn saw it as business and not personal and Bret seems to be leaning to the 'forgive and forget' with regards to Vince, so I would wager they both have spoken, or have at least talked through others to get thier points accross and bury the hatchet.

I was unaware that Vince had called him when he had his stroke. That's a very stand up move on his part.


Also, how great would it be to pull a suprise and have them announce while Bret is there, that Owen is going in the HOF as well.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
Bret's problems with Shawn are far bigger than the Montreal incident though. There never would have been a Montreal incident if Bret didn't have problems with Shawn in the first place.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.29
Speaking of mainstream press for the Hall of Fame inductions, today's Around the Horn winner, Jay Mariotti, used his face time to blast the fact that WWE has a Hall of Fame. "It's not real!," etc. etc. He made fun of the fact that the Fridge and Pete Rose are supposed to be inducted (are they? I haven't been following closely enough) and basically said it's all one big joke. Hmm, I always did prefer Woody Paige.

- StingArmy

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.80
Are the Hollywood Walk-Of-Fame stars a big joke because they're just acting?

Also, Pete Rose went in two years ago. He was the first "celebrity inductee".

(edited by oldschoolhero on 30.3.06 0404)


To those who say people wouldn't look; they wouldn't be interested; they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply: There is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires, and lights, in a box.-Edward R. Murrow
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.11
It's a shame that they just end the show with face time and only a quick reaction, because it really seemed like Reali wanted to rip him apart for that (for whatever reason...I don't think he's a wrestling fan or anything). He did get in the shot, though, that he wishes AtH got the kind of ratings that wrestling does.

It's amazing that sports writers like Mariotti can at times seem so informed, and in-depth with their analysis, and then when it comes to subjects such as pro wrestling or (especially) MMA their ignorance knows no bounds.




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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.85
ESPN does have an agenda against Vince. A few examples are the hidden monday night wars between Raw and MNF, back when MNF's ratings were low. ESPN did all it could to quash the XFL, which I thought was a great idea (paying players for winning, etc). The Cowherd idiot comment, ESPN's own failed wrestling show.

But poker, figure skating, spelling and sawing wood are sports.

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.12
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Are the Hollywood Walk-Of-Fame stars a big joke because they're just acting?

Worse yet, those stars on the Walk of Fame are ALL bought and paid for - there's no voting involved.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.76
    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
    it really seemed like Reali wanted to rip him apart for that (for whatever reason...I don't think he's a wrestling fan or anything).
The last time I saw Around The Horn (a month or so ago), he muted a guy for saying "WWF" instead of "WWE", so I kinda got the feeling he was a fan. Just because I doubt anyone else would care.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
With all the press about Bret threatening to walk away at the sight of Shawn... doesn't this almost GUARANTEE that they'll be doing something together at WRESTLEMANIA?

What's CRZ's quote about if you see it on tv, then it's a work or some such something...
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.80
Have you seen Bret threatening to walk away on WWE TV?



To those who say people wouldn't look; they wouldn't be interested; they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply: There is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires, and lights, in a box.-Edward R. Murrow
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.48
I think the WWE is going about their HOF the wrong way.

They should appoint a board of HOF voting members (comprised of maybe Vince, other Hall members, some wrestling journalists), announce the final 12 or so (like they do with the NFL) maybe a month beforehand, and then finally unveil the new inductees.

That way, the induction will seem more official, and the debate over who from the final 12 should be included will generate more interest from the fans...



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