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Apparently, Ziggler vs. Morrison has been pulled from the card. Booo.

C.M. Punk vs. Undertaker- World Heavyweight Title, Submission Match: Punk via nefarious means; I don't see Taker tapping, but I don't see him beating Punk already either.

Randy Orton vs. John Cena- WWE Title, "I Quit" Match: Cena wins. I don't know who challenges him next, though....

Degeneration X vs. Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase- Submissions Count Anywhere Match: I'd really hate to see Cody and Ted lose two months in a row. I don't see DX losing unless either Hunter or HBK turns heel. DX wins again.

Christian vs. William Regal- ECW Title Match: I could totally see Regal winning, but I'll go with Christian retaining instead.

Chris Jericho & Big Show vs. Mark Henry & MVP- Unified Tag Title Match: The champions retain, though if they lost, Show could be a challenger to Cena.

Great Khali vs. Kane- Singapore Cane Match: Khali (and Singh) get their revenge this month.

EDIT:

Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz- United States Title Match: Miz wins the title.

(edited by geemoney on 12.9.09 1333)
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    Cena wins. I don't know who challenges him next, though....


Randy Orton in a Hell in a Cell match. Or Cena & DX vs. Legacy in HIAC in the final showdown.

The IC title match getting pulled really sucks. Maybe they don't want either Ziggler (3 straight challenges) or Morrison (8 days after winning) to lose right now. They could put them in a six-man with Cryme Tyme and the Hart Dynasty to include them in Montreal. That seems an unlikely courtesy.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.36
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro

      Cena wins. I don't know who challenges him next, though....


    Randy Orton in a Hell in a Cell match.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.06
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    The IC title match getting pulled really sucks. Maybe they don't want either Ziggler (3 straight challenges) or Morrison (8 days after winning) to lose right now.
I heard the match got pulled and I immediately wondered whether it was Ziggler or Morrison who has tested positive for unwellness. I hope I'm wrong.



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C.M. Punk vs. Undertaker - CM Punk. Why put him over Hardy in an incredible program only to bury him in his first defence against someone else?

Randy Orton vs. John Cena: Orton wins it.

Degeneration X vs. Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase: Legacy wins it, but DiBiase starts his slow turn to face-hood.

Christian vs. William Regal: Christian wins it.

Chris Jericho & Big Show vs. Mark Henry & MVP: Mark Henry and MVP win it...just cuz, for some reason, I'm digging them as a team.

Great Khali vs. Kane: Khali wins it. It should be a fun opener.

Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz: I really want The Miz to win this. Kofi's done nothing with the title. Pluz, after the past programs he's run, Miz deserves a singles run.

Canning Ziggler/Morrison really sucks, but if it gives them a longer program, then I'm good. I think those two could put together some incredible matches.

EDIT: WWE announced another match.

(edited by Oliver on 13.9.09 0010)


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Punk wins via some kind of cheating

Cena beats Orton with the STF

Regal over Christian due to cheating from Kozlov and Big Zeke

JeriShow over MVP/Henry

Legacy over DX...you just know they won't resist doing another Survivor Series finish in Montreal. Shawn is put into the sharpshooter and somehow the match is stopped.

Great Khali over Kane

Only six matches on a PPV? Blah



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CM Punk but not clean. Undertaker perhaps passes out and loses that way.

Cena over Orton - the only problem is this is a too predictable of a finish. But I think Cena wins because of the next match.

MVP-Henry over Show/Jericho - reason, Jericho fires Show and goes on to be Cena's challenger. It's time for Jericho to become the #1 heel chasing the champ. Show taps out.

DX-Legacy - Legacy will come off real strong but in the end one of them taps.

Christian over Regal - Kozlov/Jackson are doing very well as a tag team now. Big men usually excel in the tag team division as the workload is much less. I can see a promotion to smackdown or Raw for those two and Regal once again being a GM

Khali over Kane - Khali must be a big money maker for the WWE overseas.

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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    The IC title match getting pulled really sucks. Maybe they don't want either Ziggler (3 straight challenges) or Morrison (8 days after winning) to lose right now.



That was my thinking too, although they've never shied away from BS non-finishes when situations like this arise. As long as they eventually get a PPV blowoff match, I'm cool with it.

Predictions: Cena over Orton, Punk over Undertaker, JeriShow over MVP/Henry, Regal over Christian, DX over Legacy, and Khali over Kane. Bonus match: The Miz beats Kofi for the US belt.
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Either Punk wins via Batista interference or some other such tactic or Punk walks away and gets counted out, but either way, Punk does not lose the title

I really don't think Cena should win here, but "Super Cena" would NEVER say "I Quit". Orton should not lose the title, but I think that is what will happen, since I don't see them putting over the heels in both the World Title Matches

I'm going out on a limb and am going to say they give the win to Priceless. It's a schmozz and will be all over the building, which can lead to some sort of convoluted set up and big ending.

Regal wins setting up the rubber match for HITC next month

JeriShow retain

Khali wins

And as for Ziggler/Morrison getting pulled, I can see why they don't want either guy to lose at this point, so why not just have a great 10 minute match ending with a DQ or a double count out or one of the many other ways they could end it without either guy actually losing. It could put heat on their future matches and be the starting point for a long feud between the two.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.49
Punk
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Cena.

Taker. As others have said, this has to be some kind of non-finish, because it's way too early to either have Punk lose or have Taker tap. I really wouldn't be surprised if they have Taker win the belt here, but probably more likely is to have Punk get DQ'd, continue to book him as weak, and have Taker win the belt later. I hope I'm wrong--book Punk strong now and they've got a main eventer for years to come. But I don't think Punk fits what Vince wants.

DX.

Regal.

Jericho/Show.

Khali.

EDITED TO ADD: The Miz. Kofi's not doing much, so they'll figure they might as well change it.

(edited by Peter The Hegemon on 13.9.09 0113)
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Cena
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Punk/Taker: Taker by DQ. Taker's not going to do the job on the first match of his latest comeback, and hopefully Vince isn't crazy enough to take the belt off Punk just yet.

Cena/Orton: Cena.

Legacy/DX: DX, in another match that allegedly gives Legacy the rub, although they still lose.

Regal/Christian: Don't watch ECW, no opinion.

Jericho & Show/MVP & Henry: JeriShow.

Khali/Kane: Khali.



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Punk/Taker: Undertaker. Look, Punk may be the hottest heel in the company but he's not about to make the Undertaker submit, much less to a finishing move he's used just once in two years on Matt Hardy on the Undertaker's first match back from the DL. Punk's persona isn't about dominance in the ring, just moral superiority over people. Undertaker regains the World Title because you can't have a DQ in a submissions match.

Cena/Orton: Cena. No way Cena actually says the words "I Quit" where as those words are in Orton's vocabulary (ask the Marines).

Legacy/DX: DX.

Regal/Christian: Regal. By this, I'm predicting all three World Titles change hands. It's the FIRST-EVER Breaking Point. It's gotta be special. But I'm likely completely wrong.

Jericho & Show/MVP & Henry: JeriShow.

Khali/Kane: Kane. Wait, who won at Summerslam? I didn't see it. Oh, who cares. Kane.

JUST ADDED: United States Champion Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz: Kofi. Miz gets "close" but not quite.
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Punk v. 'Taker: Unfortunately I see Punk losing though it would make sense for some interference to take place. (Sigh).....Taker wins the World Heavyweight Belt.

Cena v. Orton: Cena wins plain and simple.

DX vs. Legacy: DX wins; though I could see a "backstage accident" where one of the members of DX gets injured and eventually taps out in the match (lets face it, HBK would submit first because Triple H is obviously not human).

Christian v. Regal: This may be the toughest one to predict: I will go with Regal.

Jericho/ Show vs. Mark Henry/ MVP: Jericho and Show retain.

Kofi Kingston v. The Miz: I am going to quote a friend here but here it goes " I am the Miz and I am champion!" Kofi has held on to the US title long enough and hopefully this match will add credibility to The Miz.
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Undertaker by DQ, leading to him putting Punk over clean next month in Hell in a Cell. They've got a golden opportunity to make Punk a star and they can't fuck it up by moving the title off him, but they can't have Undertaker lose his return PPV match, especially when Undertaker submitting would be counter-intuitive to his character.

The Spinner Belt lives again.

DX wins when Shawn makes Dibiase tap to the Sharpshooter. This leads to Rhodes & Dibiase finally getting one over on DX next month, earning their respect and eventually leading to them turning face on Orton.

Christian retains. The build-up's been pretty one-sided in favor of Regal and his mismatched cronies, and (more importantly) the E doesn't think this match is important enough to put the submission stipulation on it.

Jericho & Show likewise retain, though they've done a pretty good job of building MVP & Mark Henry up. DX is going to be the team that beats Jericho & Show, for reasons both practical (since the tag champs appear across all brands) and storyline (HHH & Shawn never were tag champs during the original run, and it'll be the catalyst by which they pay off the eventual teasing and have Shawn turn heel on HHH when they lose the titles to set up a big special-attraction match for WM).

Miz wins the US title, mirroring Morrison's success with the IC belt on Smackdown. While Kofi's an entertaining character, his reign has really served no purpose and Miz could really use it as a way to springboard up the ladder of consciousness.

Khali beats Kane to set up the decider next month, where hopefully Kane busts out the See No Evil hook.



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While the switch from Cena to RVD should alleviate some complaints, the inevitability of the belt's return to Cena (note where Summerslam is this year) and the poor initial showing by the new ECW are enough to keep the indicator where it is for now. The pieces are in place, though, especially on RAW, for improvements to be made to the IWC's psyche in the near future.
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C.M. Punk vs. Undertaker- World Heavyweight Title, Submission Match: Punk wins. I think chair shots while ref is done. locks in vice and then ref checks Takers hand, seeing that he's out cold.

Randy Orton vs. John Cena- WWE Title, "I Quit" Match: Cena wins. Will be the last match. I fall asleep. Do people tap to the STFU because it hurts or they just can't take Cena yelling so loud in their ear?

Degeneration X vs. Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase- Submissions Count Anywhere Match: Country Boy and 5 Head win here(my girls name for DX.) Something stupid like they make one of them tap infront of Orton in the back.

Christian vs. William Regal- ECW Title Match: Christian. I see Kozlov getting the title at Hell in a Cell.

Chris Jericho & Big Show vs. Mark Henry & MVP- Unified Tag Title Match: Jeri-show. This will be a better than expected match.

Great Khali vs. Kane- Singapore Cane Match: I hope this is more a challenge than match. They just take turns whacking the hell out of each other until one submits. I say Khali.

Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz- United States Title Match: Kofi wins clean.
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I have an awful feeling that in a weird sort of way Jeff Hardy's legal trouble is going to lead WWE to put the belt on Undertaker, as they decide to go with one of the old vets they feel safe with. Thus I'm saying clean win with the shitty gogoplata for UT, leading to a clean win for UT in HITC in a few weeks.

As for the rest...don't know, don't much care. I guess Cena and DX going with the safe approach.



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C.M. Punk vs. Undertaker - Punk

Randy Orton vs. John Cena - Orton

Christian vs. William Regal - Christian

Chris Jericho & Big Show vs. Mark Henry & MVP - Jerishow

Great Khali vs. Kane - Khali

Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz - Miz

Degeneration X vs. Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase - DX
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.64
    Originally posted by spf
    I have an awful feeling that in a weird sort of way Jeff Hardy's legal trouble is going to lead WWE to put the belt on Undertaker, as they decide to go with one of the old vets they feel safe with.


This is one of the more mind-boggling justifications I've read. Exactly what possible wellness violations do you expect CM Punk to commit??



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