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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.88
Freaking Todd!!! He is so polite yet super deadly. Jesse tried to escape and it lead to Andrea being killed in front of him. She was kind of dumb to remove the chain for Todd and even walk out to look at a creepy van that Jesse is supposed to be in. Then he also threatened Skylar for Lydia, who insisted on going a step further than just threatening.

Poor Walter. Everything he worked so hard for ended up being meaningless. Flynn didn't want his drug money. Gray Matter denounces his involvement with the company he help create other than just the name. I guess Saul gets away scott free.

I guess Anna Gunn won an Emmy but not Bryan Cranston (lost to Jeff Daniels for the Newsroom) or Aaron Paul (OMG he lost to Gyp Rosetti???). But they did win Best Drama Series.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.55
    Originally posted by oudom

    I guess Anna Gunn won an Emmy but not Bryan Cranston (lost to Jeff Daniels for the Newsroom) or Aaron Paul (OMG he lost to Gyp Rosetti???). But they did win Best Drama Series.

    (edited by oudom on 23.9.13 0122)


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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.11
I love the fact that we still have no idea who the gun is for and we can add Gray Matter to the list of optional targets. The real question is going to be does Walt find out about the Nazis threatening his family or does he attack a group of people that don't really deserve it while the Nazis get off scott free?

Jesse is not getting rescued on purpose if he lives til Walt comes back. IF he lives.

(edited by lotjx on 23.9.13 0732)


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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.14

When the mighty fall, they fall hard...

Two things (other than the continued torture of Jesse) really stood out - First was the phone call to Flynn. I think that will be the scene that wins Cranston the Emmy. Sure, his machismo speech last week was brilliant, but this week all of the bravado was gone and there he was just barely hanging on to what little he had left. Second, Walt attempting to bully Saul and then crumbling in a coughing fit was also quite brilliant.

    Originally posted by oudom
    Freaking Todd!!! He is so polite yet super deadly. Jesse tried to escape and it lead to Andrea being killed in front of him.


That was so f'd up.

For me, the emotional turmoil of Jesse has nearly overshadowed everything else. Again, I don't know if Jesse will live (I really hope he does), but there needs to be some redemption for him at the end of all of this. He's really the only one with any sense of remorse for all that carnage that he and Walt unleashed.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.11
In a perfect world, Jesse lives - but Breaking Bad is far from a perfect world.

If they go down the Walter white redemption angle, then Walter kills Todd and friends, takes care of Lydia, threatens Grey Matter into giving his wife and family, helps Jesse escape, tells him where the money is in NH and then pops the ricin.

Walter White wants his family taken care of and his fate in his own hands. This would check off both.

Either way, I am ready for the end and Sunday can not come fast enough.





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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.85
I am someone who shotgunned all five seasons over the last month, so maybe my opinion isn't valid, but I thought this episode was pretty awful. (A quick glance of internet reaction indicates I'm in the minority.)

First off, I genuinely dislike Todd and Lydia. I know their characters aren't meant to be likable. I hate them in an X-Pac heat, why-are-these-new-ch​aracters-taking-up​-so-much-screentim​e-please-go-away kind of way.

It also doesn't help that Todd and his group have gone from "guys that do some B&E" to cartoonishly powerful supervillains. It feels like we JUST met them (again, a side-effect of me binge-watching), and now they're dominating everything.

I hate the TV trope of "character in peril is totally going to escape...until they get caught." I also never liked Andrea (Man, am I grumpy today!), and she was SUPER DUMB for going outside, so I didn't quite feel the same emotion Jesse did when she got taken out.

The Walt stuff was interesting, as always, but even that felt like, "Look, here's ALL THE STUFF that sets up the flash forward on one convenient plate! Enjoy!" Even the emotional gut-punch of last week's phone call was immediately undercut by Saul saying it basically didn't work.

I'm going to rewatch it before the finale. Maybe I was in a bad mood or something, but it sure seemed like a rare misstep by an otherwise flawless show.

Loved Robert Forster, though. He should be in everything.

(edited by SchippeWreck on 23.9.13 0944)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.14
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    It also doesn't help that Todd and his group have gone from "guys that do some B&E" to cartoonishly powerful supervillains. It feels like we JUST met them (again, a side-effect of me binge-watching), and now they're dominating everything.


When we're first introduced to Todd's uncle, Walt is soliciting them to orchestrate a simultaneous 10 person hit on witnesses housed in different prisons. I would say that they were pretty well established from the get go as folks with which one should not trifle.

Not to mention that, in the time since they were first introduced, they've spent a few months bringing in millions from the meth cooking (which wasn't exactly handed to them - they had to take it), in addition to the millions they took from Walt - so this already resourceful (albeit sociopathic) group has grown even more powerful.

(edited by Leroy on 23.9.13 1433)
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.98
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    First off, I genuinely dislike Todd and Lydia. I know their characters aren't meant to be likable. I hate them in an X-Pac heat, why-are-these-new-ch​​aracters-taking​-up​-so-much-scr​eentim​e-please-go-away kind of way.

I can understand where you're coming from, but it's worth remembering that Lydia/Madrigal have been a powerful (albeit unseen) presence since as far back as the days of Gus in season 3. And as Leroy alluded to, Jack's lot were separate to the original B&E guys we were introduced to. He was first seen organising the hits in prison.

Granted Mike did say that Jack was nothing to worry about (or words to that effect) but they're basically just a group of psychopaths with a bunch of guns and a willingness to use them, and any increase in their power can be put down to them getting Madrigal's backing and a few barrels of cash.

Personally I think one of the strengths of the show is its ability to make me care about characters despite them having limited screen time.


    I hate the TV trope of "character in peril is totally going to escape...until they get caught." I also never liked Andrea (Man, am I grumpy today!), and she was SUPER DUMB for going outside, so I didn't quite feel the same emotion Jesse did when she got taken out.

Yeah, both of these things jarred a little. I never really thought Jesse was getting away so it didn't achieve the tension it probably wanted to and Andrea looked all sorts of dense for just standing there staring.

These, plus the convenient timing of the TV show in the bar, were unusually weak moments but I still really enjoyed the episode overall.

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.72

I think the ricin is meant for Elliott & Gretchen.

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#10 Posted on
    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    I hate the TV trope of "character in peril is totally going to escape...until they get caught." I also never liked Andrea (Man, am I grumpy today!), and she was SUPER DUMB for going outside, so I didn't quite feel the same emotion Jesse did when she got taken out.

    The Walt stuff was interesting, as always, but even that felt like, "Look, here's ALL THE STUFF that sets up the flash forward on one convenient plate! Enjoy!" Even the emotional gut-punch of last week's phone call was immediately undercut by Saul saying it basically didn't work.(edited by SchippeWreck on 23.9.13 0944)


I thought it was more realistic and believable that Jesse didn't get away. The Nazis had security cameras in the yard, and the fence was there, too. They simply saw him running on the cameras and ran out to catch him.

Same with the Walt phone call - I loved that bit last week and thought he brilliantly got Skyler off the hook, but it makes sense that the feds didn't just leave her alone after that. Walt is still missing, Hank and Gomez are still missing, and they know that she knows stuff, regardless of whether she was intimidated by Walt into going along with it or not.

I do agree it was kinda dumb of Andrea to go outside like she did.



(edited by hayden on 23.9.13 1637)
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.55
    Originally posted by hayden


    I do agree it was kinda dumb of Andrea to go outside like she did.



    (edited by hayden on 23.9.13 1637)


She was a former meth addict. It was clear that she doesn't make the best choices in life.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.85
Reading this (grantland.com) made me realize I was letting my mood affect my interpretation of the quality of the episode.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.88
    Originally posted by Leroy

    When the mighty fall, they fall hard...

    Two things (other than the continued torture of Jesse) really stood out - First was the phone call to Flynn. I think that will be the scene that wins Cranston the Emmy. Sure, his machismo speech last week was brilliant, but this week all of the bravado was gone and there he was just barely hanging on to what little he had left. Second, Walt attempting to bully Saul and then crumbling in a coughing fit was also quite brilliant.



Poor Heisenberg. He wore his hat and walked down the ice path all bad ass.... then he saw the long snow filled path ahead past the gate and told himself "tomorrow!" Next thing you know a lot of time went by, he has hair and a beard now, and his ring doesn't even stay on his finger due to the weight loss.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.72
Wow, before this episode, it hadn't even occurred to me that Walt might use the ricin and/or the machine gun on the Grey Matter people. We couldn't possibly be in for a SUPER dark ending where Walt just goes postal in the Grey Matter lobby rather than try to save Jesse or help his family, leaving poor Pinkman to just rot in the meth lab, would we? That would be Walt's ultimate "legacy" --- he'd leave the world having funded $70 million to a group of neo-Nazis.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
The entire cast of Breaking Bad was on Conan last night and it was fantastic.

Watch the full episode. (teamcoco.com)
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.88
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    The entire cast of Breaking Bad was on Conan last night and it was fantastic.

    Watch the full episode. (teamcoco.com)

I actually watched Conan last night for the first time in a long time. It was like a reunion show but the final episode didn't air yet so they couldn't talk about it. They also brought back the picture that Conan showed when Louis CK was on... a young Bob Odenkirk and Louis CK when Late Night with Conan O'Brien first started.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.17
    Originally posted by oudom
    It was like a reunion show but the final episode didn't air yet so they couldn't talk about it.


It was actually a reunion show. That cast probably hasn't seen each other since the show wrapped months ago, and by nature of how many shows are structured a lot of TV casts don't actually get together on camera very often or work together as the ensemble group.

The photo of young Conan, Louis CK, Andy Richter, Bob Odenkirk and Robert Smiegel from 20 years ago was also shown last week when Louis CK was Conan's guest.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.88
Wow, Gretchen and Elliott came back to the series because of the 16 year old fan who died of cancer. (thewrap.com)
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.11


That's awesome. What a cool story. And it was such an unexpected twist too that does make sense to reignite Walter's rage.

Quite a fan that kid.



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Our episode review of this bridge episode. We ask the tough questions like how more awesome can Robert Forester be? Is this the worst school in America? Can Andrea be any more stupid? We also place bets on how this is all going to end.

http://comicbookspotlight.wordpress.com/2013/09/26/breaking-bad-6x7-granite-state/





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