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Well there certainly haven't been a ton of great games so far. I mean I've been watching and enjoying, but nothing amazing like last season.

I will admit I have a big smile on my face after FSU pasted UCLA tonight. Just wish they could have played offense like that oh I dunno the rest of the season. If they get a half competant offensive coordinator it'll be a VERY quick rise back to the top with that talent coming back. For the first time in years I feel great about my team.

Two games tomorrow. Hopefully they'll at least be close. Anyone else watching this stuff?
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The Pac-10 is really playing like crap this bowl season, at 0-3 and not even close in any game. How can UCLA shut down a USC attack that seemed to be clicking heading into that game and then give up 44 to a Florida State team that at times looked like they couldn't score if they were left alone on the field?



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Yeah I mean I know the FSU guys were really jacked to not have a losing season but 44 points is crazy to think of for the way they played this year. Not sure what UCLA was doing.

But the PAC 10 looks to get it's first win as Cal is whipping Texas A&M late in the game. Not really suprising to me, as A&M is just too hit or miss. Can hang with anyone one week and almost lose to Army the next. Cal's uniforms are still butt ugly though. In fact it's a state thing, as USC, UCLA and Cal all rank pretty high on the fugly color scheme scale.

And Rutgers ends the happy season with a blowout of a K-State team that ...well sucks. Crappy that Rutgers didn't get someone better to play in this spot. But nice story just the same.

And we finally got a fun, close game(OSU vs Alabama). Kinda thought Bama would win, but didn't really care either way so it was a blast to watch. Saw it with an OSU diehard who was screaming about "settling for a fucking field goal" at the end until they made the kick.
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I watched bits of the Cal/A&M game today. The way A&M started, I thought Cal was in for a long day, but after looking deadly on their first drive, A&M couldn't get anything together.
I gotta say the fake punt on 4th and 3 or 4 early in the game was a pretty bold mmove and certainly fooled me and my brother watching.
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Did anyone watch SportsCenter last night with Rece Davis, Lou Holtz, and Mark May? Holtz (or Holt-shth) had the worst lisp going since Daffy Duck. Has he always been that way and I just never noticed?



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Did anyone watch SportsCenter last night with Rece Davis, Lou Holtz, and Mark May? Holtz (or Holt-shth) had the worst lisp going since Daffy Duck. Has he always been that way and I just never noticed?


He has always been pretty bad, but yeah I do think it's gotten even worse lately. I have no clue why they still use him.

Edit: Ok we got some great games today. West Virginia really looked bad against GT considering the QB situation. Heck even the crappy ND defense didn't give up that much to GT. But they did a great job of coming back and getting the win which is all you can ask. And CJ is your #1 NFL draft pick if he leaves. Wow.

Nebraska impressed the heck out of me by staying with Auburn like that. Same with Wisconsin which had one of the best under the radar seasons you can have. Seriously that team ain't bad.

USC...how do I say this. Great job by them; Michigan looked slow as hell. However this Jarret kid for USC is a punk bitch. If I'm an NFL team and I see the bush league bullshit taunting he did on his TD catch and then his next big catch, I'm not taking him. No way, no how. Too many WR's are busts as is, and they seem to be the biggest headcases these days. He seems of that same crappy mold. Don't care how good he is, the dude sucks as a person.

The refs were wrong to call the other guy for a late hit and not call him for taunting. Offsetting penalties at least.

(edited by wmatistic on 1.1.07 1809)
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.04
    Originally posted by wmatistic
    West Virginia really looked bad against GT considering the QB situation. Heck even the crappy ND defense didn't give up that much to GT. But they did a great job of coming back and getting the win which is all you can ask. And CJ is your #1 NFL draft pick if he leaves. Wow.

I agree that their defense looked bad, but I actually feel that the QB "situation" worked out in Tech's favor. The backup quarterback is always everyone's favorite player until he gets on the field, but after watching Reggie Ball do a poor-to-mediocre job starting for 4 years, Taylor Bennett was a welcome change. I watched the game with a bunch of GT alums and all we could say all game was, "Man, think of what could have been this season."

I'm not pleased that we lost, especially considering the play that caused it (WVU's "onside" kick), but I can say that I am VERY happy that Taylor used his one shot to show Calvin that sticking around for another year might be fun. Surely the lure of a Heisman must mean SOMETHING.

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by wmatistic
      West Virginia really looked bad against GT considering the QB situation. Heck even the crappy ND defense didn't give up that much to GT. But they did a great job of coming back and getting the win which is all you can ask. And CJ is your #1 NFL draft pick if he leaves. Wow.

    I agree that their defense looked bad, but I actually feel that the QB "situation" worked out in Tech's favor. The backup quarterback is always everyone's favorite player until he gets on the field, but after watching Reggie Ball do a poor-to-mediocre job starting for 4 years, Taylor Bennett was a welcome change. I watched the game with a bunch of GT alums and all we could say all game was, "Man, think of what could have been this season."

    I'm not pleased that we lost, especially considering the play that caused it (WVU's "onside" kick), but I can say that I am VERY happy that Taylor used his one shot to show Calvin that sticking around for another year might be fun. Surely the lure of a Heisman must mean SOMETHING.

    - StingArmy


Oh he was certainly better than what they had, but inexperienced too so hard to say what may have been with Ball. Probably worse for GT, but oh well.

And may I also include that the block in the back call was total crap and could very easily have meant a GT win. Not happy with refs today after that call and the non calls on Jarret in the USC game.


(edited by wmatistic on 1.1.07 2136)
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Good grief this is a fantastic Fiesta Bowl (headed to OT right now after the hook-and-lateral by Boise State). I wish it was only on ABC, because these Fox guys SUCK.



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Boy you aren't kidding. This game is amazing. Never figured this to be the best bowl matchup of the year, but it might just be.

edit: game over baby. Holy hell. Guts, creativity, anything else you can think of. That man won't be coaching much longer at Boise.

(edited by wmatistic on 1.1.07 2158)
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Now, that, gentlemen, is one fine motherfuckin' ball game.

And mad props to Ian Johnson for his move after scoring the game winner. You've got to appreciate his flair for the dramatic. ;)



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Now, that, gentlemen, is one fine motherfuckin' ball game.

    And mad props to Ian Johnson for his move after scoring the game winner. You've got to appreciate his flair for the dramatic. ;)


Also much hate for the retarded guy doing the interview and his "you can go ahead and propose" spoiler.
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Five observations from a fine day of football:

1. There's a gun to your head and you have to answer this question: Dwayne Jarrett or Calvin Johnson?

2. I guess we can put all that "Michigan deserved a rematch" talk behind us now, no?

3. Thom Brennaman's playoff rant was pretty awesome. Other than that, subpar all around for the FOX team.

4. Maybe the SEC is a tad overrated after all. Two losses to the Big Ten today and Auburn certainly didn't walk over Nebraska. Throw in the BCS championship and the SEC is fixin' to be 0-3 against a "lousy" Big Ten. Hmmmmmmm...

5. Chris Petersen has the biggest cojones in college football.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.27
    Originally posted by Crimedog
    Chris Petersen has the biggest cojones in college football.


Seriously. I understand why it was a logical decision to go for two, and from the announcer's booth or behind my computer it's pretty easy to say it, but to be down there and have to make the decision, with the world watching ... damn. And even aside from the two-point try, calling that WR pass in OT.

This game is the best I've seen since OSU/Miami in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl. My favorite five games since:

1) Ohio State vs. Miami, 2003 Fiesta Bowl
2) Boise State vs. Oklahoma, 2007 Fiesta Bowl
3) Texas vs. USC, 2006 Rose Bowl
4) USC vs. Notre Dame, 2005 regular season

I thought Boise State was DEAD three times: after the INT return with a minute left, when they got to 4th and 18, and after Peterson's OT run. But they kept coming back.
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So yeah, if Florida beats Ohio State, I think this qualifies Boise State win the 'real' national championship. Seriously, if the NCAA wanted a seperate national title game from the big four BCS bowls, they should schedule it a week afterwards so they can set up a true 1 vs. 2 matchup.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.58
    Originally posted by Crimedog
    4. Maybe the SEC is a tad overrated after all. Two losses to the Big Ten today and Auburn certainly didn't walk over Nebraska. Throw in the BCS championship and the SEC is fixin' to be 0-3 against a "lousy" Big Ten.


Oh please, you're going to base the entire season on meaningless games that came a month after the regular season? Anybody who puts that much weight into the bowl games is a moron.



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    Originally posted by Big Bad
    So yeah, if Florida beats Ohio State, I think this qualifies Boise State win the 'real' national championship. Seriously, if the NCAA wanted a seperate national title game from the big four BCS bowls, they should schedule it a week afterwards so they can set up a true 1 vs. 2 matchup.


Um, no. Look Boise is a great story but with that weak ass schedule they played (and I mean WWWWEEEEEAAAAAAKKKKK) this one win doesn't mean they deserve a shot at Ohio State. Recall OU couldn't hang with Texas, who in turn was dominated by OSU. Even those who want a playoff can't want to encourage teams to play schedules that bad just to say they won every game. No, this will just prove to the powers that be that it was great of them to make an extra game and give teams like Boise a big payday. They'll feel vindicated, not pressured.

I wouldn't say the SEC is overrated by these bowls but that I definatly wasn't giving enough credit to some other teams like Nebraska and Wisconsin. I would however put a good deal of stock into a lot of bowl games. Yeah sometimes you get teams that don't want to be there, but overall you get a better understanding of how teams match up outside their conference. Bowl games have more meaning than you give them credit for.

Jarrett or CJ? Please. Never seen CJ show anything but class on the field, not to mention he's got more talent anyway. No way anyone takes Jarrett ahead of Johnson after that display by Jarrett yesterday.


(edited by wmatistic on 2.1.07 0723)
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    Originally posted by Quezzy
      Originally posted by Crimedog
      4. Maybe the SEC is a tad overrated after all. Two losses to the Big Ten today and Auburn certainly didn't walk over Nebraska. Throw in the BCS championship and the SEC is fixin' to be 0-3 against a "lousy" Big Ten.


    Oh please, you're going to base the entire season on meaningless games that came a month after the regular season? Anybody who puts that much weight into the bowl games is a moron.


I'm sure if the SEC won those games, they wouldn't be meaningless-it would be even more proof of how "great" the SEC is. Also it's good to know the National Championship Game is meaningless.

I love SEC fans. The play in the "greatest conference on the planet", but when they actually play a good team out of conference and lose, well, those games didn't matter anyway.



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    Originally posted by Quezzy
      Originally posted by Crimedog
      4. Maybe the SEC is a tad overrated after all. Two losses to the Big Ten today and Auburn certainly didn't walk over Nebraska. Throw in the BCS championship and the SEC is fixin' to be 0-3 against a "lousy" Big Ten.


    Oh please, you're going to base the entire season on meaningless games that came a month after the regular season? Anybody who puts that much weight into the bowl games is a moron.


There are so few meaningful non-conference regular season games, there really isn't much else to base conference comparisons on that has any merit. I think if you are truly a good team, if there is a game that is to be played, you are going to want to win it.

I am a Vols fan, and I am willing to admit that Penn State has a better team that I had thought, and that the Big Ten has earned a little respect from me (and in turn, I too think that the SEC might have been slightly overrated).

That said, I wouldn't count the MNC game in Ohio State's win column just yet.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by Quezzy
      Originally posted by Crimedog
      4. Maybe the SEC is a tad overrated after all. Two losses to the Big Ten today and Auburn certainly didn't walk over Nebraska. Throw in the BCS championship and the SEC is fixin' to be 0-3 against a "lousy" Big Ten.


    Oh please, you're going to base the entire season on meaningless games that came a month after the regular season? Anybody who puts that much weight into the bowl games is a moron.


So it's moronic to look at head-to-head competition between good teams as an indicator of how good a conference is? Or is it just moronic to consider the game that every team strives for all year long _ a good bowl game _ to be an indicator? Or is it moronic to keep squawking about how great a conference is when you look at what it's done against other power conferences and realize that the record isn't that impressive?

Arkansas: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 0-2
Tennessee: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 1-1
Florida: Has played no BCS non-conference opponents yet.
Georgia: Played three BCS non-conference opponents. 3-0
Kentucky: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 1-1
South Carolina: Played one BCS non-conference opponent. 1-0
Vanderbilt: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 1-1
Auburn: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 2-0
LSU: Played one BCS non-conference opponent (so far). 1-0
Alabama: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 1-1
Ole Miss: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 0-2
Mississippi State: Played one BCS non-conference opponent. 0-1

So the SEC went 11-8 against other BCS conferences. That could go as far up as 13-8 or as far down as 11-10.

Now, let's compare that to, say, the "weak" Big East:
Louisville: Played four BCS non-conference opponents. 4-0
Rutgers: Played three BCS non-conference opponents. 3-0
WVU: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 2-0
South Florida: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 1-1
Cincinnati: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 0-2
Pittsburgh: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 1-1
UCONN: Played two BCS non-conference opponents. 1-1
Syracuse: Played three BCS non-conference opponents. 1-2

The Big East went 13-7 against other BCS conferences.

My point is not that the SEC suddenly sucks; it's that the SEC isn't the only conference that can play ball, despite what SEC fans say.
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