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NEW YORK -- Is Boston about to be a two-team baseball town again?

Preliminary discussions which have involved some people at the "highest levels of baseball" are considering having the Montreal Expos share Fenway Park with the Boston Red Sox next season, according to a report in Thursday's New York Daily News.

According to the newspaper, the Expos would play in Fenway for one year while Major League Baseball continues to search for a buyer, who could possibly move the team.

The motivations are two-fold: the Expos would be out of Montreal, where they had baseball's lowest attendance and are considered a lame duck franchise, and the Red Sox management would receive rent from the team, added revenue to a team which sold for $700 million a year ago.

"This could be a win-win-win for all the parties involved except the 200 season ticket-holders in Montreal," a source told the Daily News. "The Red Sox get the benefit of the extra revenue, the Expos get a great place to play where people will come out to see them and Boston fans get to see National League baseball again."

The Boston Braves were a member of the National League until 1953, when they moved to Milwaukee (and later to Atlanta).

Scheduling would be a small problem, sources told the Daily News. There are only a few dates when the two teams are scheduled at home at the same time.


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The Expos continue to be a major fiasco. This wouldn't really do much for the stability of the team and frankly I don't see the point in this. If they went to a new city they would at the very least be able to gauge the potential interest of those fans as a permanent solution. And playing in Boston(regardless of what management says) is a problem because of the logisitcs of having two teams in one park(and this goes well beyond shared home dates).

The Expos would either be better off in a new city where they could potentially wind up(Portland, Washington, San Juan), or in a big city(Major League or otherwise) with and appropriate sized Major League Stadium. Like Washington, Toronto and Houston both have old Major League stadiums currently unoccupied(not saying that's a solution) and stadiums in New Orleans, New Jersey, and Vancouver could be retrofitted to temporarily host baseball if the case need be. But the Boston Expos are a bad idea...
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Oh good Lord this has to be the stupidest idea ever.



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    Originally posted by evilwaldo
    Oh good Lord this has to be the stupidest idea ever.


I thought the stupidest idea ever was MLB owning the Expos like a socialized dead horse.








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Boston seems to be the worst idea. Red Sox fans are by far the most rabid in the nation and I think they would chew up and spit out an org like the Expos if they moved into town.

Maybe not, but it seems like it to me.



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They should just move the 'Spos to Fresno.



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    Originally posted by The Amazing Salami
    Boston seems to be the worst idea. Red Sox fans are by far the most rabid in the nation and I think they would chew up and spit out an org like the Expos if they moved into town.

    Maybe not, but it seems like it to me.



I would have to agree with you. While it would certainly be amusing, there's no way a change-resistant city like Boston would ever open up its arms to another baseball franchise. (let alone a National League franchise!)



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Oy.



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I agree this is a stupid idea but I think they could draw at least 10,000 a game here in boston. Of couse half of those people would just be vistors who want to see Fenway Park.
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Could you imagine if the Sox suck next year and the Expos rally to win a WORLD SERIES IN FENWAY PARK?! Greater Boston would be on suicide watch forever.



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That would be the most awesome thing to happen in Baseball ever. EVER.

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Well, except for the Twins, Dbacks, or Rockies winning the series.... but that may just be me.



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    Originally posted by kazhayashi81

      Originally posted by evilwaldo
      Oh good Lord this has to be the stupidest idea ever.


    I thought the stupidest idea ever was MLB owning the Expos like a socialized dead horse.



I just want to know what is next on their list of ways to kill the Expos after this.

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This was posted in the Virginia Pilot Newspaper a few weeks back:


Norfolk Tides general manager Dave Rosenfield does not see how his minor-league franchise could allow the Montreal Expos to play 16 to 20 baseball games in Norfolk next year.
But having the Expos play six games at Harbor Park is an entirely different story.

Rosenfield said a scenario in which the Expos play half their home games in Montreal and split the rest between other sites could work.

The possibility of the Expos barnstorming for a season arose Tuesday when the Toronto Globe and Mail reported that one of the options the Expos might explore for the upcoming season included playing games in Norfolk, New Orleans, Washington, D.C., and Portland, Ore.

“If we were to have a pair of three-game series spread out over the summer and had teams like the Mets, the Phillies or the Pirates to add regional appeal, I can see that as feasible,” Rosenfield said Wednesday. “One thing I believe that's very interesting is that New Orleans, Portland and Washington in particular all have serious hopes of one day landing a major league team. I think we ended up on the list because we have a nice stadium.

“Obviously, this plan is a complete stopgap. I think Major League Baseball is killing time to see if anyone will build a ballpark.”

Rosenfield said that more than the handful of games would potentially “drain the area's baseball dollar and do significant damage to the Tides.”

The Norfolk Tides are the Triple-A affiliate of the New York Mets and play their games at Harbor Park.

Claude Delorme, vice president of business operations for the Expos, was the man who posed the four-city option in the Globe and Mail interview.

Contacted Wednesday and asked the potential for the plan to become reality, Delorme said anything further would have to come from Major League Baseball's home office.

“I know baseball wants to centralize all the ideas,” Delorme said, “so I don't take off on a tangent.”

Rich Levin, Major League Baseball vice president of media relations, did not return calls to his office Wednesday.

The thought of rotating the Expos' home games between a number of venues is seen as a way to maximize revenues and minimize losses.

After dodging contraction following the 2001 season, the Expos drew an average of 10,031 fans for home games in 2002.

The franchise was purchased by Major League Baseball's other 29 teams under a limited partnership agreement last season and is up for sale. Four interested parties – three in Washington, D.C. and another in Portland – have made unofficial offers to Major League Baseball.

The club was purchased from Jeffrey Loria last season for $120 million, but is expected to be resold for at least twice that amount.

Part of the problem with selling the team at present is that neither Washington, D.C., nor Portland offers a permanent home.

The Expos are expected to lose $38 million this past season. Playing games away from Montreal and the weak Canada dollar would help bring down the deficit. The Canadian dollar is worth 62 cents on the American dollar.

In addition, the Expos would not be risking much in the loss of broadcast revenue rights. The club receives less than $1 million for those rights in Montreal. The average major league club receives 30 times that or more.

The Expos ended up on the short list of contractible teams last season because, by major league standards, their attendance is pitiful. They drew less than 8,000 fans for 29 of their home games this season and had a mere 2,134 on hand for a Sept. 5 game against Pittsburgh.

Harbor Park seats slightly more than 12,000, but erection of temporary bleachers in the picnic area beyond leftfield could push that to 14,000. Zephyr Field in New Orleans seats 11,000 while PGE Park in Portland seats 19,800. RFK Stadium in Washington can seat over 50,000 for baseball, depending on how the field is configured. Officials there have said the stadium could be converted for baseball in six weeks.

There is one major hurdle that this plan may not have a chance of clearing: the Major League Baseball Players Association.

“I cannot believe that the players union would allow this,” Rosenfield said. “And Frank Robinson has already said he would quit if this plan was adopted.”

Robinson stepped down as a vice president of Major League Baseball to manage the Expos this past season.

For the players association to adopt a plan where a team would be on the road for an entire season seems remote. Donald Fehr, executive director of the players association, has declined to comment until he has seen the Expos' options for next season.

ESPN's Rich Eisen lampooned rumors of Montreal's barnstorming plans on the cable network's late-night Tuesday broadcast by having the Expos travel the world to play in the home towns of the players on their 40-man roster and places in between. Eisen had the Expos on all seven continents. He even had them playing in St. Louis.

St. Louis, Senegal, that is.

This is not the only wild idea to be tossed about. There were reports last week of the Expos possibly playing next season in Puerto Rico at San Juan's 20,000-seat Hiram Bithorn Stadium.

The U.S. dollar is also Puerto Rico's currency.

So how did the ideas of playing in Norfolk hatch?

“I think that a bunch of guys sitting around the Expos' office came up with about 10 alternatives and this was one of them,” Tides president Ken Young said. “I don't think there's a whole lot to it.”

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National League baseball, even if it IS the Expos, would go over huge in Boston. For so many years we have complained about our inability to get the bunt down and move men over. Now, should this plan go through, we can point TO FENWAY and say, "Hey, guys! Look! They're doing it on your own fucking turf!" We might throw in a few "cah" comments, too, but that's just for the SNL special.



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I'd like to see the Expos end up in San Juan. I think that there's a huge Hispanic market waiting to be tapped - and a team in Puerto Rico would be just the thing to help them tap that market. Besides, I don't know if the Orioles will give up their hold on D.C. to another team - and is there enough demand in Oregon for a Major League team?

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#16 Posted on

    Originally posted by Simba
    Could you imagine if the Sox suck next year and the Expos rally to win a WORLD SERIES IN FENWAY PARK?! Greater Boston would be on suicide watch forever.







Considering many of us consider finding the nearest bridge after opening day losses, being on suicide watch would not be anything new for red sox fans. If the Expos moved to Boston for one year, it would almost guarantee the Expos winning the Series by beating the Red Sox in Seven.



I want you to know, I agree with everything I've just said.
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    Originally posted by kazhayashi81

      Originally posted by evilwaldo
      Oh good Lord this has to be the stupidest idea ever.


    I thought the stupidest idea ever was MLB owning the Expos like a socialized dead horse.



Baseball never ceases to amaze me. Just when you think that they could not do anything more stupid they go and top their last action. I think the cracking down on kids in the dugout has to be an aberration.





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Kill the Expos, I say. That or give them to the Japaneese. It is the WOLRD Series, after all... maybe it is time they got one...



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