If Rudy wins the Republican nomination, Hillary wins the Democratic, and Bloomberg runs as a 3rd party candidate, I'd give a puncher's shot to whoever decides to run as a 4th party candidate under the slogan 'I Hate New York'. As much as people believe Rudy benefited from 9/11, no one has benefited more from that than Bloomberg. Had the attack happened the next day, Mark Green would have been Rudy's successor as mayor, as the Democratic primary would not have been postponed for 2 weeks, which allowed for further cannibalization of the Democratic party during that period and Al Sharpton causing such a rift that Bloomberg was able to pull off the upset despite the Democrats having a 4-1 margin of registered voters. In a Presidential run, no chance of winning at all. He can't get to 270, and if somehow he caused it to get thrown into the House, he has no party supporters in the chamber to get him a win. If only one of Rudy or Hillary gets their party's nomination, he damages that person, with Rudy being more damaged. No other New Yorker nominated, he probably takes from both, and I don't see a large swing that causes voter turnout to shoot up to over 60% overall.
'Ric Flair wishes he was Paul Roma.' Congratulations Paul on winning the Idiotic Comment of the Decade Award.
Originally posted by Big BadTo any New Yorkers on The W....he's your mayor, would you want him to be your president?
Mayor Mike has always been a "Republican in name only". As redsoxnation mentions above, Bloomberg basically rode Rudy's coattails & endorsement into office. He basically switched to the GOP for his Mayoral run to avoid the crowded Democratic primary, & most of his actions as mayor have been those of a rather Liberal nature.
If he were to run for president, I think he would likely end up taking more votes from the Democratic nominee. The longer he is in the race & the more time his views have to be fleshed out & understood by the voters, the more clear it will become that we basically have a rich liberal running as an Independent.
Either way, I'm happy we're almost done with him here :-)
If not for 9-11, Freddy Ferrer, not Mark Green, would have been mayor. Freddy was getting polling over 40% (what you need to avoid a runoff), and would have easily beaten Bloomberg. Even post 9-11, he would have beaten Bloomberg. as Mark Green basically beat himself (as he always does), and other than Guiliani, is the one NYC politician that can be counted on to generate hatred from a huge percentage of the electorate.
Bloomberg? You ask pretty much any New Yorker about Bloomberg, and the answer is "yeah, I guess he's been a pretty good mayor." Stuff here's been uneventful, and Bloomie's basically cruising along. I don't think he'll run, and if he does, he'll definitely take a lot more votes away from the Democrat. His main issue is environmentalism. He's very liberal on all the hot-button social questions. He raised property taxes 18% his first year in office. He has the whole "I'm a businessman thing," which is pretty much the only draw from the GOP.
Man's most valuable trait is a judicious sense of what not to believe. - Euripides
Wouldn't his business stance draw some Republican votes, however? Not the God-lovers that formed Bush's base, but rather than fiscally-conservative but generally socially liberal group? Let's call them Schwarzenegger Republicans, for lack of a better term. I could see that group getting behind a Bloomberg rather than a Hillary or Obama, or a Republican candidate that commits himself too much to the religious right (in order to avoid another Bush).
That was me. I actually criticized Western Europe for not getting involved, as the Poles and the Czechs have been involved early on because of their common backstory in decommunization. I still see nothing about the EU, France, Germany etc.