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#21 Posted on
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Lou Bega released a second single, too. Doesn't mean anyone played it.



Whoa. What??!??

I've just been lurking for, oh, maybe years, but I just want to say THANK YOU to the W for still existing. This is a good, well-spoken thread. I should spend more time here.

As for the election, I voted blue in Virginia, and we turned it blue, so I'm a happy man these days. My father, a Republican in Ohio, is still not speaking to me, because of the harsh criticism the media had of Palin from the beginning.



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.86
    Originally posted by DrDirt
      Originally posted by redsoxnation
      In the political environment of this year, McCain was the only Republican who wasn't going to get humiliated. Only problem was that McCain ran one of the 3 or 4 worst Presidential campaigns by a major party candidate in the past century.


    I don't know, Mondale, Dukakis, McGovern, and others rank right up there. McCain's problem wasn't Palin or the other stuff you mentioned IMO but that to secure the nomination and secure the base he had to strike a Faustian bargain that robbed him of his soul and I think he knew it and regretted it. My God, he worked with Karl Rove who helped destroy him in 2000.

    The other problem is that McCain while thoughtful isn't a superdeep thinker. He admits he goes from the gut, often makes quick decisions, and sticks with them and seldom has regrets. And in some respects his camapign mirrored that, esp. the choice of Palin.





McGovern is in his own league and Mondale promising to raise taxes is up there, but McCain ran a bad campaign for a 6 week period that allowed the race to blow open. When McCain's strength was going to be his decisiveness in crisis situations he sacraficed that by his indecisiveness during the Bernanke/Paulson (who should be indicted for insider trading, but that's another rant) economic breakdown.
Since you mentioned Dukakis, has any person who has run for President of the United States for a major party ever fallen off the face of the Earth as much as Dukakis has in the past 2 decades?
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.58
    Originally posted by Lexus
    Flat out, I didn't vote for McCain because of Sarah Palin. As pointed out earlier, he made the decision of bringing her on, what other decisions would he make?

    She's homespun, and from the heart, but people who aren't as smart as my second grade teacher shouldn't be running for public office.


This was one of the deciding factors for me, too, if not THEE deciding factor. At first it wasn't a big deal because what does the VP even DO? Sarah Palin couldn't even answer that one. But after watching the debates and seeing how awkwardly John McCain was getting around, I realized that the chances of her becoming President were actually pretty good if McCain were elected.

I also thought that the VP choice for Obama was for the purposes of being more equipped for the Presidency, while McCain's pick was for the purpose of getting elected.

But blaming her for the loss is just not accurate. It had a lot more to do with Bush than Palin.
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