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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.00
Scott Bowden's column this week at MoviePoopShoot.com takes a pretty good and logical look at the practice of blading. Here's the link:

http://www.moviepoopshoot.com/ wrestling/index.html

He makes some really good points...it is such a dangerous thing...then again, the counter-arguement would be that it`s wrestling, what isn`t dangerous?



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
Somewhere at my grandmothers house, I have that very issue of THE WRESTLER magazine tucked away in a box.

Good article, but didnt really say anything about if blading is needed today or not. I feel it has its place, but only to make a match stand out. Not as an every day thing.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.67
Just a quick comment on one of his asides: I still spell it Eddy instead of Eddie not to make any sort of statement, but merely because that's what I'm used to. It's a bitch to "train" yourself to spell it the other way.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.91
On a related note, there's this here article, which compares the Eddy bladejob to Muta's. And a good read it is too.

http://www.inthisveryring.com/article.php?aid=88
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.11
Blading works in moderation. Do it every day and it doesn't matter, but done sparingly it makes people take note. Consider it this way: they have a legitimate selling point for Eddie/JBL II. Who would have ever thought that possible?



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.11
The key to blading successfully is the context of the match, and whether the blood obscures facial gestures that are important to selling the other wrestlers' offensive moves. The viewer has to be convinced that blood is a logical outcome from the passsion and intensity both wrestlers need to have hurt the other. For all the flaws in JBL/Eddy that was apparent. Orton/Foley for obvious reasons worked. Y2J/Christian worked. We had convincing storylines going in and that is the key.
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    Originally posted by jjfc
    The key to blading successfully is the context of the match, and whether the blood obscures facial gestures that are important to selling the other wrestlers' offensive moves. The viewer has to be convinced that blood is a logical outcome from the passsion and intensity both wrestlers need to have hurt the other. For all the flaws in JBL/Eddy that was apparent. Orton/Foley for obvious reasons worked. Y2J/Christian worked. We had convincing storylines going in and that is the key.


And more than anything, a no-DQ brawl would do more than even the first match as far as playing to both guys' strengths, which would be JBL using his brawling abilities to pummel Eddy and Eddy selling/bumping and making the big babyface comeback, which in this current face run he's done as well as he ever has if not better. but more importantly, if you're going to push JBL, don't expose him if you can help it.

And just as a sidenote, it's a good little article, but should probably give honorable mention at least to the bladework Shawn has done this year IF in fact we're handing out Muta Comparison "Awards".



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.50
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Just a quick comment on one of his asides: I still spell it Eddy instead of Eddie not to make any sort of statement, but merely because that's what I'm used to. It's a bitch to "train" yourself to spell it the other way.


Y'know, I still type "Eddy" for that reason. Well, that and since I'm Latino, too, it's natural for me to use the letter "y" in nicknames.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.56
And just as a sidenote, it's a good little article, but should probably give honorable mention at least to the bladework Shawn has done this year IF in fact we're handing out Muta Comparison "Awards".

Well, Michaels would definitely win "Most Consistent Heavy Juicer" for his performances at Survivor Series, Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, and Backlash.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.61
I'd say Michaels' at Backlash was lacking one important ingredient.


I guess Vengeance doesn't count for Mr. McMahon since it wasn't actually bladejob, but oh man Survivor Series. Off a punch.
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.60
That was the most hilariously overblown bladejob in the history of the universe. One offensive move-a transitional move, no less-and the man is DYING. How can you not love the owner of a Fortune 500 company who rips his own head open on national television for our sick amusement?



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.59
I did not see the Eddie-JBL match, but I've a couple of pictures and I'm wondering: Was Eddie's bladejob more grotesque than Vince's at Survivor Series last year? I honestly worried for Vince's life when I saw him cut himself simply because it seemed he was constantly dripping blood (i.e. it didn't seem to stop flowing). I've seen the pictures of the ring, but I can't compare since Vince and Taker spent most of their time outside the ring.

These bloody matches seem to be desensitizing me to the whole loss of blood aspect. I liked it better in the mid-80s when Flair would cut himself, but it wasn't as badly. It just seemed that way because Flair had that blonde hair and the blood would always run into it.

I could do without the blood for awhile, I guess. (Except for a War Games match, which Vince seems intent on not bringing back.)
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.23
I've about had it with the blading, personally. It just doesn't mean anything anymore. Hunter and Shawn bleed frequently enough that hemophiliacs think they're pussies. Eddy's was absurd and he did legitimately pass out backstage and have to be hospitilized for it, so I should think that'd be a nice solid sign right there that they should lay off this practise for a while. With the HITC coming up, though, I'd say the chances of that happening are fairly slim. But it's at the point now where I'm willing to change the channel when it happens.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I hate to get off topic but I was wondering if the legendary "blood from a stone" image from the submission match between Bret and Austin a blade job or a acident. I was watching it not to long ago and noticed it looked extremely realistic since his head appeared to bust open right when he hit the old(steel) crowd fencing.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.84
    Originally posted by MoleMan
    I hate to get off topic but I was wondering if the legendary "blood from a stone" image from the submission match between Bret and Austin a blade job or a acident. I was watching it not to long ago and noticed it looked extremely realistic since his head appeared to bust open right when he hit the old(steel) crowd fencing.


If you know what to look for, Austin damn near bladed on-camera in that match.

The part where he gets whipped to the railing near the announce tables you can see Shamrock hand him what looks like an exacto knife. Austin uses it it quickly and then he passes it to someone who passes it to Lawler at the ringside table. But this all takes place in about 2.6 seconds and unless you're specifically looking for the game of Pass The Baton that's going on, you won't see it.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.25
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    Just a quick comment on one of his asides: I still spell it Eddy instead of Eddie not to make any sort of statement, but merely because that's what I'm used to. It's a bitch to "train" yourself to spell it the other way.
I thought maybe you just read too many PWI family of magazines who wrote it Eddy in the past... They still spell Mysterio, "Misterio"

To quote Hot Newz in one of my favorite lines of the year on his JD recap "Brad Shaw hits Eddie with a chair...AND OMFG, THIS AVERAGE MATCH JUST BECAME THE BEST MATCH EVER! Eddie does the best bladejob EVER"... There's some truth there, you can really hide a lumbering match with a good blade job as a distraction. I think some matches use it as a crutch. But it's a fact, rightfully or wrongfully usually a blade job adds drama to the match.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.91
I did not see the Eddie-JBL match, but I've a couple of pictures and I'm wondering: Was Eddie's bladejob more grotesque than Vince's at Survivor Series last year?

In my opinion, yes. It stands up there with Undertaker at No Mercy 2002 as one of the best/worst blade-jobs I've seen in WWE history. At SurSer, Vince started flowing blood like water straight after the blade-job and for the next 3-4 minutes or so, but by the time they reached the 'graveyard', it had settled down a bit. Eddie on the other hand was flowing like that for damn near ten minutes. I didn't like it watching live, but looking back it did make a good match very good, or at least memorable.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.47
I was at Judgement Day. "Grotesque" is a good choice of words. I don't have an inherent problem with blood, but this was very much too much.

I've never seen the definitive Muta match, so can't compare to that. I did just go through & looked at some of the matches mentioned in this thread. Vince/Undertaker at SurSer'03 & Taker/Brock at NoMercy'02 were both messy, but worked for me in their respective contexts. Shawn/HHH at RoyalRumble'04 was (IMO) logistically a bit too much & too soon -- you couldn't see Shawn's facial expressions for all the blood -- but is different in that the blood pretty much stays on his face, & isn't everywhere.

Eddie's was way over the line. It was much worse than any of those. There were dinner-plate-sized puddles -- not smears, puddles -- in places that he was for 10 seconds. Multiple places. It just kept bleeding. Sometimes the guys will, for effect, reopen a cut that's started to clot, but Eddie's never really seemed to stop. Maybe it was clots of blood collecting, but from the close-ups on the big screen, it looked like he had more damage than just one big slice.

It sounds weird to say, but I think I was more "comfortable" with the concept of them having had a mistake than I am with them deliberately going that far. I certainly lost any interest in the match itself, being concerned about Eddie's actual welfare.

Now one could make a case for "seeing it on video vs. seeing it live" is "apples vs. oranges". That's possible, although I've seen blade jobs live & never had that reaction. I haven't seen Eddie's on video -- for all I know they somewhat downplayed how bad it was. The post-broadcast stuff (trying to get him out of the ring) certainly made it more ... something, real, worrisome, intense.

I find that I'm put off by it. I was loving Eddie before, but since I realised that it was all intentionally so far over the line, I'm somehow not really into him right now. It's a bit hard to explain, & I'm sure I'll get over it, but I'm just not happy with the whole thing.

One question: Does anybody know how long it was from the blade job to the end of the match? (It seemed like forever being there. Much more than the "typical" 5-10 munutes.)
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.61
    Originally posted by leggo
    I did not see the Eddie-JBL match, but I've a couple of pictures and I'm wondering: Was Eddie's bladejob more grotesque than Vince's at Survivor Series last year?

    In my opinion, yes. It stands up there with Undertaker at No Mercy 2002 as one of the best/worst blade-jobs I've seen in WWE history. At SurSer, Vince started flowing blood like water straight after the blade-job and for the next 3-4 minutes or so, but by the time they reached the 'graveyard', it had settled down a bit. Eddie on the other hand was flowing like that for damn near ten minutes. I didn't like it watching live, but looking back it did make a good match very good, or at least memorable.


It seems a shame that Guerrero's match will be remembered strictly for the blood loss. When I think of high profile feuds with blood, I think of Rhodes vs. Flair and that had more to do with psychology than actual blood. I hope their not trying to make Guerrero a star simply by how much blood he loses. I'm already becoming desensitized to it.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
For those who think Austin bladed himself, look again. Bret gets tossed from the ring and then he goes to his mouth/wrist for the blade. Now watch when he whips Austin into the barricade, his right hand I believe has the blade between his thumb and index finger. When Austin hits the barricade, Bret pauses. He is blading Austin himself and then he starts punching away.

When he throws Austin into the barricade after he blades, you see Bret stuffing the blade into his trunks. That is how it was really done. I have seen that match so many times I know that Lawler is putting his water under the table. Taker/Brock was messy. I was actually feeling ill after that...crazy stuff..



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