The W
Views: 98995783
Main | FAQ | Search: Y! / G | Calendar | Color chart | Log in for more!
18.9.14 0455
The W - Current Events & Politics - Bill Cosby is a racist!
This thread has 50 referrals leading to it
Register and log in to post!
Thread rated: 5.42
Pages: 1
(1364 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
User
Post (18 total)
StaggerLee
Scrapple








Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 11 hours
Last activity: 10 hours
#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.64
MINORITY REPORT
Bill Cosby: Blacks can't speak English
NAACP leaders stunned by remarks of prominent comedian



In the presence of NAACP President Kweisi Mfume and other African-American leaders, comedian Bill Cosby took aim at blacks who don't take responsibility for their economic status, blame police for incarcerations and teach their kids poor speaking habits.


Bill Cosby

Cosby made his remarks at a Constitution Hall event in Washington Monday night commemorating the 50th anniversary of the Brown vs. Board of Education decision that paved the way for integrated schools, reported Richard Leiby in his Reliable Source column for the Washington Post.

Leiby said Cosby's remarks were met with "astonishment, laughter and applause."

When Cosby finally concluded, Leiby said, Mfume, Howard University President H. Patrick Swygert and NAACP legal defense fund head Theodore Shaw came to the podium looking "stone-faced."

Shaw told the crowd most people on welfare are not African American. He insisted many of the problems his organization addresses among blacks are not self-inflicted.

Cosby said, according to Leiby: "Ladies and gentlemen, the lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal. These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids $500 sneakers for what? And won't spend $200 for 'Hooked on Phonics.'

He added: "They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English. I can't even talk the way these people talk: 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk. And then I heard the father talk. ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. ... You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth!"

The Post said Cosby also targeted imprisoned blacks.

"These are not political criminals," he said. "These are people going around stealing Coca-Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake and then we run out and we are outraged, [saying] 'The cops shouldn't have shot him.' What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?"





Thank you for your irrelevant opinion.

Doe, Ray, Me, Fa, So, La, TITO SANTANA!
Promote this thread!
BigVitoMark
Lap cheong








Since: 10.8.02
From: Queen's University, Canada

Since last post: 3342 days
Last activity: 3252 days
ICQ:  
#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.11
Stagger, or anyone else for that matter: do you know of a site that has a full transcript of Cosby's remarks that can be reviewed? From that article, I hear Cosby slamming negligent parents among "lower economic" people and imprisoned (not all) blacks claiming wrongful incarceration. I don't see anywhere in that story where Cosby said "blacks can't raise kids", "blacks can't speak English", or "blacks belong in jail".

Let's focus on what was actually said, not what slant can be used to generate a bigger story. There is enough racism in this world as it is that no one benefits when we have to go looking for and making up more. I'd like to see some specifically racist statements before slapping Bill Cosby with such a negative label.



The Toronto Maple Leafs: Hockey's equivalent of the Chicago Cubs, but easier to hate.
StaggerLee
Scrapple








Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 11 hours
Last activity: 10 hours
#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.64
Sorry, I thought the sarcasm in the title would be obvious.

He made some good points, but if I were a celebrity and said the same thing out loud in a speech, I would be labeled a racist.



Thank you for your irrelevant opinion.

Doe, Ray, Me, Fa, So, La, TITO SANTANA!
JayJayDean
Scrapple








Since: 2.1.02
From: Seattle, WA

Since last post: 15 days
Last activity: 5 hours
AIM:  
Y!:
#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.99
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Sorry, I thought the sarcasm in the title would be obvious.


I actually thought you were channeling Grimis' thread-titling spirit, there.



To get ass, youve got to bring ass." -- Roy Jones Jr.

"Your input has been noted.
I hope you don't take it personally if I disregard it."
-- Guru Zim

"Speak English or face admin retribution." -- CRZ
Nuclear Winter
Boudin rouge








Since: 9.11.03
From: Bedford, Michigan

Since last post: 171 days
Last activity: 5 days
AIM:  
#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.40
Actually, Cosby didn't mention African Americans by name. As far as I can tell, he was striking out against the hip hop culture in general, which includes people of all races.



Shawn Michaels explains that he was never actually deactivated, because he wasnt the droid Eric were looking for.

(RAW Satire, 5/17/04)
CRZ
Big Brother
Administrator








Since: 9.12.01
From: ミネアポリス

Since last post: 12 hours
Last activity: 3 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
Y!:
#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.07
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    I actually thought you were channeling Grimis' thread-titling spirit, there.
Your growing obsessions are disturbing to me.



CRZ
Roy.
Pepperoni








Since: 25.2.04
From: Keystone State

Since last post: 2322 days
Last activity: 792 days
#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.55
Cosby has said things like this plenty of times. The most recent (and popular) was his exchange with Wanda Sykes during the Emmy (?) awards. He said something to the effect of when he was on the Cosby show, "we spoke English".

I believe his goal with "The Cosby Show" was not only to entertain. He wanted a positive portrayal of an African-American family, and, clearly, he succeeded. Of course, the show was somewhat criticized for being a "safe" portrayal that was comfortable to whites, but his success cannot be denied. But "The Cosby Show" was the exception, rather than the rule, and since the show has gone off of the air, there have been more embarassing shows than uplifting ones.

Plus, I just think he's a bitter old man. I've heard that he's a total asshole to just about everybody he meets, especially limo drivers, waiters, hotel workers, etc...



Gravity is a contributing factor in nearly 73 percent of all accidents involving falling objects.
SeVen ™
Kishke








Since: 11.1.02
From: Japan

Since last post: 2415 days
Last activity: 2246 days
#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Sorry, I thought the sarcasm in the title would be obvious.

    He made some good points, but if I were a celebrity and said the same thing out loud in a speech, I would be labeled a racist.



Of course you would be labeled. It would seem so if your not a part of that race. If I was a celebrity and I said we need to have a higher standard on the driving license exams when it comes to Asians because the Asians I see driving are terrible. That would be looked at as a racist statement even if you thought it was true. I don't know why people always say, "if I said that I would be called racist." How else would people take it? Not every is as insensitve as others.

(edited by SeVen on 21.5.04 0506)





Reverend J Shaft
Liverwurst








Since: 25.6.03
From: Home of The Big House

Since last post: 5 days
Last activity: 13 hours
#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.09
    Originally posted by SeVen
    I don't know why people always say, "if I said that I would be called racist." How else would people take it?


Gee, I don't know ...comedy? People think Dave Chappelle calling white people "cracker" or "honkey" is hilarious (myself included and I'm white). Neither of those words have the stigma attached to them that the N-word has. Comedians have done entire routines mocking how white people dance, talk, etc. Racism is racism, no matter what color or creed the offending person is.

The funny thing is ...I bet a white person who made remarks like Cosby in the same setting would get lynched, even though it appears as though Cosby made no specific reference to African-Americans in his quoted speech.



Grimis
Scrapple








Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

Since last post: 1234 days
Last activity: 1031 days
#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
    The funny thing is ...I bet a white person who made remarks like Cosby in the same setting would get lynched, even though it appears as though Cosby made no specific reference to African-Americans in his quoted speech.
That's because the white man is evil.

Actually, a white man could've said things a lot less inflammatory that Cosby said and the PC-Police would be loaded for bear.



Farley and Belushi are taken away in their prime yet Moore's heart continues to pump bacon grease in and out. God has a brutal sense of humor sometimes.- Barbwire Mike
JayJayDean
Scrapple








Since: 2.1.02
From: Seattle, WA

Since last post: 15 days
Last activity: 5 hours
AIM:  
Y!:
#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.99
    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by JayJayDean
      I actually thought you were channeling Grimis' thread-titling spirit, there.
    Your growing obsessions are disturbing to me.


Touch.

(Though I'm sure it's more "coincidence" than "obsession". Now let me show you my personalized "GRIMIS" Ravens jersey.)



To get ass, youve got to bring ass." -- Roy Jones Jr.

"Your input has been noted.
I hope you don't take it personally if I disregard it."
-- Guru Zim

"Speak English or face admin retribution." -- CRZ
Grimis
Scrapple








Since: 11.7.02
From: MD

Since last post: 1234 days
Last activity: 1031 days
#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    Though I'm sure it's more "coincidence" than "obsession". Now let me show you my personalized "GRIMIS" Ravens jersey.)
Guess this would be a bad time to bring up that game the Seahawks choked, wouldn't it? :)



Farley and Belushi are taken away in their prime yet Moore's heart continues to pump bacon grease in and out. God has a brutal sense of humor sometimes.- Barbwire Mike
asteroidboy
Andouille








Since: 22.1.02
From: Texas

Since last post: 1394 days
Last activity: 302 days
#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by Reverend J Shaft
      The funny thing is ...I bet a white person who made remarks like Cosby in the same setting would get lynched, even though it appears as though Cosby made no specific reference to African-Americans in his quoted speech.
    That's because the white man is evil.

    Actually, a white man could've said things a lot less inflammatory that Cosby said and the PC-Police would be loaded for bear.


Eh, it's more like the "I can make fun of my family, but you can't," rule

For instance, I can refer to my sister or my mom in a negative context, if I'm pissed off at them. But if you call my sister or my mom a bitch, then it's fighting time.

Same thing, here. I can talk about dumb crackers from Texas, because I am one. But if you say it, it's not as cool. It's not fair, but it's the way it is.


And for what it's worth, I interviewed Cosby last year and I found him to be thoughtful, funny and polite. Not assholish in the least.



-- Asteroid Boy


Wiener of the day: 23.7.02, 3.12.03

"In addition, my tickets werent really what youd expect from the webmaster of the internets largest independent pro-wrestling website." - Widro

"My brother saw the Undertaker walking through an airport." - Rex
"Was he no-selling?" - Me


JustinShapiro
Scrapple
Moderator








Since: 12.12.01
From: Pittsburgh, PA

Since last post: 1 day
Last activity: 7 hours
#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.61
"I bet a white person who made remarks like Cosby in the same setting would get lynched"

An angry mob of black people lynching a white person, you've got it all backwards!

(edited by JMShapiro on 21.5.04 1323)
Stilton
Frankfurter








Since: 7.2.04
From: Canada

Since last post: 3148 days
Last activity: 3148 days
#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.89
Chris Rock's most famous routine covers a lot of the same issues that Cosby has addressed here. You know the one. It's the routine where Chris Rock says, "On one side, there's black people. On the other, you've got niggers."

Since Rock first performed this routine, other comics have constantly referred to it as a great sigh of relief for the black community. Finally, someone had given them a reason to stop the self-criticism for things other people were doing.

There's a transcript combined with an essay about the routine here:
http://bennun.biz/interviews/chrisrock.html

Is Chris Rock a racist? Hell no. Does he push the envelope? Hell yes. I think he's expressing a lot of the same exasperation that Cosby expressed, only Rock uses more cutting edge humour.

Here's the thing that bothers me about prejudice surrounding black Americans, and to some extent, black Canadians (or anyone, really), as well: when some people see a poor, ignorant white person with little edjucation and poor speech habits, he is called, albeit perjoritively, "white trash", and that person is not considered the norm. However, far too often, when someone sees a black person who is also poor, ignorant, with little edjucation and poor speech habits, it is assumed that that is just what black people are like. I think what Chris Rock's routine does is make the same distinction we have for everyone else.

Being poor, ignorant, under-edjucated, and having poor speech habits are not race issues. They only become race issues when they become, unfortunately, an ugly stereotype that actual racists use to justify their racism.

(edited by Stilton on 21.5.04 2341)


"Have you seen my baseball?"
Whitebacon
Boudin blanc








Since: 12.1.02
From: Fresno, CA

Since last post: 32 days
Last activity: 5 hours
AIM:  
ICQ:  
#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.45
Stilton: I think the difference here is that this sort of thing is expected from Chris Rock, but not from Bill Cosby, and especially not in that setting.










(Not Bob Kohm)


In the context of baseball, the use of drugs hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, the use of alcohol hurts only the player. In the context of baseball, womanizing hurts whom? Maybe the wife of the player? In the context of baseball, felonies are crimes against society, not against baseball. In the context of baseball, gambling is the only crime against baseball.

Gambling, in the context of baseball, is a capital offense and Rose has richly earned-- hell, he agreed to-- his death sentence. Let him hang.

Bob Kohm, co-owner of Rotojunkies.com (rotojunkies.com) , and a large market kind of guy.
Sec19Row53
Lap cheong








Since: 2.1.02
From: Oconomowoc, WI

Since last post: 2 days
Last activity: 7 hours
Y!:
#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.57
Bill Cosby contacted a Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel columnist who wrote some unkind (and ultimately incorrect) things about Cosby in light of this article. The clarification of what was said and meant can be found here (with a link to the original article at the bottom of this one):
http://www.jsonline.com/ news/metro/may04/231392.asp



[It's where I sit]
StaggerLee
Scrapple








Since: 3.10.02
From: Right side of the tracks

Since last post: 11 hours
Last activity: 10 hours
#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
He was on the Tavis Smiley show tonight and explained how all the things he said were not printed, and that when taken into context, yes, he was slamming parents for thier childrens lack of success, but maintained that he is only saying it because its sad to see so many youths of color getting left out of life because of bad parenting.



Thank you for your irrelevant opinion.

Doe, Ray, Me, Fa, So, La, TITO SANTANA!
Thread rated: 5.42
Pages: 1
Thread ahead: Heartburn coming for Micheal Moore...
Next thread: Its Official, this guy is crazy
Previous thread: WTF? Dont be proud of your nation?
(1364 newer) Next thread | Previous thread
He should get jail time for this. If they are not blocking traffic, you can't go after them with a car/truck. If they are blocking traffic, well, your rolling the dice by getting in front of a vehicle.
The W - Current Events & Politics - Bill Cosby is a racist!Register and log in to post!

The W™ message board

ZimBoard
©2001-2014 Brothers Zim

This old hunk of junk rendered your page in 0.136 seconds.