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Since: 11.7.02
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Folks at the Massachusetts Institute for a New Commonwealth(I have no idea what that is) have gone beyond red vs blue to put together a map that breaks the country into ten regions that blow through state borders:



You can read descriptions of the regions at their page here.

Incidentally, I think these regions are quite interesting and actually could be more useful than the red-state/blue state argument, even if this doesn't make a difference in the Electoral College.

Incidentally, I think Bush holds the lead in Southern Comfort, Southern Lowlands, Sagebrush, and Appalachia. Dean is up in Northeast Corridor, Upper Coasts, Great Lakes. The rest are up for grabs.



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Hey, they know enough to realize that Pennsylvania is effectively three states that somehow turns into the Deep South about a half hour outside of Pittsburgh. I've never seen anyone make that assessment outside of this state before.





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They did a good job of categorizing the more urban vs. rural area of the northwest as well.



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Verrry interesting stuff, Grimis.

I imagine this'll spark quite a bit of debate about the validity of the Electoral College as it stands now... especially if this winds up being accepted on a wide basis.



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This is great stuff. If we could actually make political boundaries based on this stuff (10 states or whatever), and couple that with looser Federal system similar to Spain's, I think it would be a much better reflection of our country than the more or less arbitrary State boundaries we have now. Eh, while I'm at it, I'd like a Pony.

Also, I think you can safely add Farm Belt to Bush and El Norte to Dean. Which I guess leaves only the Big River up for grabs.

I've got a couple of nitpicky issues with their boundaried (how is Gary, Indiana in Farm Belt and not Great Lakes), but on the whole I thought it was a great analysis.

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Maybe I'm obsessing over College Football a little too much, but that map looks like how the Div I-A conferences are divided.






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Since: 8.10.03
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Grimis, with the exception of MI and IL, wouldn't the farm belt be pretty solidly repiblican, especially ND, SD, NE, KS?

And Moe, could you imagine the civl war that would break out if we changed political boundaries.



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"El Norte also includes Miami and the southern tip of Florida, scene to much chaos as the votes were counted after the 2000 presidential election. While the rest of Florida has become more conservative and more Republican since Jimmy Carter was elected president in 1976, this part of Florida has become more Democratic. "

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Whoever made that comment obviously never lived in Miami. If anything, the Democrat contingent of South Florida is the seniors community. It certainly is not the latin population, which is about as right wing as they get thanks to the Republicans historically holding a tougher stance on Castro/Cuba.



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    Originally posted by DrDirt
    Grimis, with the exception of MI and IL, wouldn't the farm belt be pretty solidly repiblican, especially ND, SD, NE, KS?
Probably, but there are some conservative Democratic areas there too.



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