Originally posted by val123I recently watched some old wwf ppvs during the late 80's early 90's, and is it just me or that the Gorilla monsoon teamed with either heenan or ventura were the best damn wwf announcing team ever.
Feel free to disagree with me on this issue
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I'd rather not disagree, if that's okay too. I think Monsoon/Heenan or Monsoon/Ventura were the top two announce teams I've ever heard.
I'm surprised you guys even said Monsoon and Heenan/Ventura, since Monsoon was always considered condescending towards the fans. Yet, I will concur with you two. "The Brain" and "Gorilla" had a such a unique chemistry and charm to them, I really don't think it will be topped. The fact that I find myself saying "Will you stop" and "Humanoids" when in arguments is as concrete of proof that I need for that. And if you need some evidence rent Royal Rumble 92, for what I consider the greatest announcing job in wrestling history.
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[Commenting on Hulk Hogan's theme song.] Bobby "The Brain" Heenan: That's my second favorite song. Gorilla Monsoon: I'm almost afraid to ask - what's your favorite? Bobby "The Brain" Heenan: All the rest are tied.
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I really liked JR and Paul Heyman. I though the actual hatred they had for each other brought out the best int heir announcing. The subtle (an dnot so subtle) digs at each other made me listen to RAW more that I had done in the past decade or so. Of course, then Lawler came back and I wanted to rip my ears off.
However, I will give you no viable argument against Gorilla and Heenan, just that I preferred Heymand and Ross.
One thing I loved about the Gorilla/Heenan duo was how The Brain would go off on one of his rants and Gorilla would shout, in complete disgust, "WILL YOU STOP?!"
Everytime I think about those instances, especially because of Gorilla's delivery, I laugh out loud!
I also liked Vince/Heenan, which was my favorite back then. I remeber one edition of Superstars when Heenan started an exchange with McMahon about distinguishing people based off of how they use toilet paper. Heenan insisted that there are three types of people: folders, stackers, and crumblers. When he asked Vince what type of person he was, Vince said he'd rather not get into that at that time, to which The Brain responded, "You must be a crumbler." LMFAO!!!!!!!!!
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Heenan's so far ahead of the rest as an announcer it's almost unfair...although Jesse was interesting, as he always took the heel's side but did so in a way that made sense and wasn't over the top. While the Brain was hysterical (if you haven't already, read his book, it's worth the money many times over) in what he said, most of what Ventura said in support of the heels was actually legit, like calling the faces for cheating and asking Gorilla why it was different for the heels and faces. I guess it depends on what style you prefer.
JR and Heyman were the best "modern" team because, as someone already said, the hatred between the two was so obvious and both men were quite good at putting over their side of the story. It always seemed to me like they were in competition with one another...JR trying to put the faces over more than Heyman put the heels over, and vice versa...in the end, they made everything seem like a big deal. That's something that I find really lacking at times, especially on Raw.
As for the best current team, give a listen to Tazz and Josh Mathews on Velocity. They're the most entertaining duo out there, hands down.
Originally posted by NagI'm surprised you guys even said Monsoon and Heenan/Ventura, since Monsoon was always considered condescending towards the fans.
According to who? Gorilla kicked all kinds of ass. I'd take him over Jim "Deejay at a Barn Dance" Ross any day of the week.
My favourite combo is Jesse/Gorilla, because they were only paired together for PPVs, to the best of my remembrance. Thusly, they had a higher quality of stuff to call than Heenan/Gorilla did, since they were always on "Superstars" trying hard-selling the possibility Tito Santana might actually win this time.
My favourite is from WM6. Hogan has Warrior's arms tied streched, as he buries the knee between the shoulder blades.
Gorilla: "Hulkster with a knee into that cervical vertabrae area..." Jesse: "No Monsoon, it's the BACK!"
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Originally posted by Justin_CaudellWell in my opinion, none of the announcers mentioned in the current thread is the best announcing team. I thinkg the best announcing team is the current announcers, none other JR & King!
A few years ago they're in the discussion, but as far as stale goes month old bread has nothing on these guys. They haven't been entertaining since Lawler came back from his hiatus, and before then they were on the downside. The same-old, same-old just isn't funny at all.
I beg to differ. The low-rated segments seemed to be the actual wrestling matches. (See the Ladder match and the Iron Man Match) Apparently WWE popular gimmick matches aren't enough to get the home viewers interested anymore.