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Who do you think is the best wrestler to never have won the World title? I'm torn between Ted DiBiase and Scott Hall.
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Owen Hart was never world champ was he? My vote goes to him.



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#3 Posted on
Chris Jericho. Oh wait, I almost forgot he's the champ right now.

Umm....Terry Funk (I'm assuming you mean WCW or WWF)



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    Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
    Chris Jericho. Oh wait, I almost forgot he's the champ right now.

    Umm....Terry Funk (I'm assuming you mean WCW or WWF)



Funk held the NWA Title once or twice I thought.

I can't pick one. These guys all probably deserved a reign or two:

Owen Hart- Would have won one if it weren't for his brother

Scott Hall- Would have won one if it weren't for his tag team partner

Roddy Piper- Did he win the WCW Title? If he did, I obviously withdraw his name

Ted Bibiase- Got shafted by the Hogan/Savage storyline

Mr Perfect/Curt Hennig- Too gimmicky to win a title as Perfect, and the label followed him to WCW

Rob Van Dam- He's not the greatest, and he still has a chance of course to win the WWF Title, but he should have held the ECW Title at some point. Instead Heyman kept "saving it" I guess.



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#5 Posted on
Good question,

Curt Hennig - I personally think he's just as good as Bret Hart in the mid 90s, in ring and character wise. Surprised he never won the big title.

Rick Rude - Great in ring, great personality, ahead of his time. (he might have won some varation of NWA National title, but never World title)

Brian Pillman - The start of the attitue era, he really was brought in strong, I totally see him in a long feud with Austin if he didn't pass away.
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All of those are great picks. I'll have to go with DiBiase, mainly for nostalgia's sake. He was so good at all the psychological aspects of the business.



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Yup, you're right. He held it for a year in the 70s. Being not alive at the time, I missed it.



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Owen Hart- Would have won one if it weren't for his brother

If it WEREN'T for his brother? I think Bret did more good for Owen than anything. Just looking at how they used the two guys - it seems Vince was far more concerned with Bret than he ever was Owen. Owen's position on the card has always remained the same, and to say Bret had ANYTHING to do with holding him down is ludicrous! Bret would have jobbed the title to Owen in an instant.

And if you're referring to the screwjob, I doubt Vince cared much about the rest of the Harts. Owen got his hands on the European and Tag-Team Titles, and was scheduled for the IC Title the night of his passing.

I just don't think that Owen was marketable as a World Champ at any time in his run - and that's why he never held the title. Bret hasn't got a thing to do with that.




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    Originally posted by cfgb
    Owen Hart- Would have won one if it weren't for his brother

    If it WEREN'T for his brother? I think Bret did more good for Owen than anything. Just looking at how they used the two guys - it seems Vince was far more concerned with Bret than he ever was Owen. Owen's position on the card has always remained the same, and to say Bret had ANYTHING to do with holding him down is ludicrous! Bret would have jobbed the title to Owen in an instant.

    And if you're referring to the screwjob, I doubt Vince cared much about the rest of the Harts. Owen got his hands on the European and Tag-Team Titles, and was scheduled for the IC Title the night of his passing.

    I just don't think that Owen was marketable as a World Champ at any time in his run - and that's why he never held the title. Bret hasn't got a thing to do with that.



I wasn't saying Bret held him down. What I meant was, that Owen wasn't even seen as the most talented wrestler in his family. Also, any title reign he got would have had a stigma like "he only got the title because he's Bret Hart's brother."

You're right though, the Bret did loads to help Owen's career.



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    Originally posted by The Masked Hungarian
    Who do you think is the best wrestler to never have won the World title? I'm torn between Ted DiBiase and Scott Hall.


Easy, Owen Hart. But Ted DiBiase, Rick Rude, and Brian Pillman are high up my list.

Did Jushin Lyger ever win a world title? If not, I pick him on that list as well. I love Lyger.



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#11 Posted on
As tempted as I am to put Bob Holly and leave it at that. I'll answer this question without being an ass...for once.

Ted DiBiase-No doubt about it, a top 5 all-time heel in my book.

Mr. Perfect-I think he could have been World Champ as Mr. Perfect. He's another great heel.

I'll also vote for Rude (he had that WCW International Title or whatever it was called, but I don't think that counts)

And...as much as I can't stand the guy, I will agree that it's hard to believe Rob Van Dam was never ECW Champion. I mean he is over as hell.

Special mention:
Chris Benoit-He deserves a real World Title run.

I'm not sure I agree with Owen, he just was never quite over enough. He was a hell of a wrestler, but I'm not sure he was ever World Champ material. Only real chance I thought he had would have been to steal a win from Bret, only to lose it back soon after.



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#12 Posted on
I didn't see his name so far eventhough there are some good names listed. Without thinking about it, the 1st name that comes to mind is The Enforcer, Arn Anderson. He never won a world title and he was THE best at what he did.



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The thing with Arn is that he was like a Best Supporting Actor, not a lead. In an earlier time, he probably could have been a lead guy, but not during the 80s and 90s.


I guess Hennig's AWA title reign doesn't count.
BTW, for all you former AWA viewers, when do you think that title quit being meaningful? After they took it away from Stan Hansen and gave it to Nick Bockwinkel again? I consider all the AWA World champions up to that point to be legitimate world champions the same way I would the WWF or the NWA/WCW champs.



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#14 Posted on
Three folks that haven't been mentioned yet:

British Bulldog

Magnum TA

Jake Roberts

My personal pick is Rowdy Roddy. I don't think he was ever WCW champ

A point, however, is with the exception of Magnum, all these guys really somehow don't seem right to me with the title.

That's all I can think of for now who haven't been mentioned.







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Wasn't Curt Hennig AWA World Champion? Or does AWA not count?
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#16 Posted on
AWA was a reconized World Contention company by the fine folks at P.W.I. The person who I think should have won a WWF World Title but never did is Lex Luger. I know he sucks more then Billy Gunn and he is a multiple NWA/WCW Champ. But all that Lex Express hype and he wins by a fucking count out. Lame. Also Jake the Snake should have got a run in between binges. But, most of all, Owen should have beaten Shawn for the belt at the RR'97. He could have lost it back on Raw or the NWO of Texas PPV. There was no better time in his career to hold the Strap. Maybe Shawn would have never retired and Owen would still be alive. Can't turn back the hands of time....yet.





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#17 Posted on
Yuji Nagata hasn't held the IWGP heavyweight title... yet.





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I consider the AWA title to be a World title up until around 1986 or so. Otherwise, there are way too many all time greats that are left out in the cold.

I think if not for his personal problems, Jake Roberts would probably enjoy the same legendary status today of Ric Flair. He definitely could have had a run during the Attitude era.

I like Terry Taylor. Perfectly acceptable babyface who did some good heel work along the way. His problem was he came up during the 80s, and was only around 225 or so--probably a little too light to be considered a viable World champion during that time. If he'd come around ten years later, it wouldn't have been considered a liability.



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I'd go for Owen, Henning, Pillman (and others in the majority) any day. But I think that an in-prime Davey Boy Smith would be a good pick.

Also, guys like Piper, Kerry Von Erich, Paul Orndorff and Rick Rude were all good in their primes.

Waitaminute, was Barry Windham ever NWA world champion?
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#20 Posted on
Kerry von Erich was NWA champ breifly. He beat Ric Flair for the title.

Barry Windham held the MWA Title right after Lex Luger jumped to the WWF. I think he held the version of the International title too.



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