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Since: 2.1.02
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#1 Posted on
Ripping this off completely from another thread, which ended up being a Steve Austin lovefest. Rules are simple: for each WCW title, pick the best champion of all time.

WCW World: Ric Flair. I don't feel the need to explain myself. Second Choice: Sting

US Title: Lance Storm. I could pick pretty much any title, but I'll use the Canadian Heavyweight Title. Lance had a great run in WCW. Second Choice: Raven

TV Title: Chris Benoit. His matches with Booker T really legitimized this title. Shame it got trashed. Second Choice: Ultimo Dragon

Tag Team: Harlem Heat. They won the title, what, 20 times? I wouldn't have picked them, but Stevie Ray pushed them up with "froot booty". Second Choice: The Outsiders

Cruiserweight Title: Chris Jericho. His run laid down the archetype for the modern cocky heel, and his run as WWF Champion. Second Choice: Dean Malenko

Hardcore Title: Meng. I like Meng.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
OK, I'll play too. Post-Invasion champions don't count, by the way!!!

World Heavyweight Champion: Definitely gonna go with Flair, with Sting as the runner-up. No question, there.

U.S. Heavyweight Champion: Storm was a good champion, but his reign was tarnished by the offbeat shenanigans during his Canadian Rules match against Mike Awesome. My pick for best U.S. Champion is Diamond Dallas Page. Words can't describe how over he was in 1997. Runner-up: Chris Benoit, for his first reign. He simply ruled as U.S. Champion.

Raven? Not a good pick at all, in my opinion-- he held that title for exactly 24 hours.

World Television: Ultimo Dragon. I remember how much I marked out when he defeated the MUCH LARGER Steven Regal for this belt. My runner-up is Chris Benoit.

A note here though, Lou: Benoit's feud with Booker T didn't result in any official reigns as TV Champion for Benoit-- only two TV Title reigns during house shows that were never recognized on television. It wasn't until Benoit's brief feud with Rick Steiner that he actually started carrying around the TV Title belt on television.

World Tag Team: The Outsiders. So dominant that the other WCW tag-teams eventually quit in frustration. Runners-up are The Steiner Brothers and Harlem Heat, just about tied there.

World Cruiserweight: In retrospect, Chris Jericho was the best Cruiserweight Champion of all-time. My tied runners-up for this award are Rey Mysterio Jr. and Billy Kidman. See, WWF fans? WWF's Cruiserweight Division was so good that their best Cruiserweight Champion went on to become the first-ever Undisputed World Heavyweight Champion. While the WWF's Light Heavyweight Division has done nothing to help anybody get to that level.

Hardcore Title: I always thought Norman Smiley was funnier than hell as Hardcore Champion. And since the belt was used primarily for comedic purposes, I'll go with Smiley as best Hardcore Champion. Runner-up is Meng-- just because he's so damn scary with his no-selling and acting insane.



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#3 Posted on
I'll assume we're talking about the NWA/WCW when making my choices:

World title: Ric Flair. The man who carried the NWA/WCW. Runners-up: Harley Race, Vader, Sting

U.S title: Steve Austin. Before he was Stone Cold, he was Stunning. He knew how to play the heel champ role well, getting himself DQ'ed to save the title. He was the perfect foil for Ricky Steamboat in their classic feud. Runners-up: Sting, Ricky Steamboat, Rick Rude

Tag titles: Road Warriors. Back in the day, the LOD were the badasses of all tag-teams. They had the greatest feuds with the Horsemen and the Midnight Express, but really turned it up as monster heels in their tag-team title run. Runners-up: Steiners, Outsiders, Tully Blanchard and Arn Anderson

TV title: Chris Benoit. Had a great best-of-seven series with Booker T. Runners-up: Booker T, Steven Regal, Steve Austin

CW title: Rey Mysterio, Jr. The best representative of a hot division, one of WCW's bright spots during their tenure. Runners-up: Chris Jericho, Dean Malenko, Ultimo Dragon

Hardcore title: Meng. Not many memorable champions in this division. Meng wins this one almost by default. Runners-up: Terry Funk, nobody else worth mentioning.

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#4 Posted on
WCW Title: Ric Flair

He's the man. Enough said.

US Title: Sting

Just because I should probably include hims somewhere in the list and I remember him beings a good champion.

TV Title: Booker T.

He's the one who really (with Benoit) elevated this division to it's highest high (before WCW destroyed it)

Cruiserweight Title: Rey Misterio

The best Lucha I've ever had the honor of watching compete. He's slowed down quite a bit now a days, but he was one of the best in the first few years of Nitro.

Tag Titles: The Outsiders

Division killers? Yes. Entertaining television: Sometimes. Good Tag Team: Definately.

Hardcore Title: Crowbar

Why not. He was entertaining, a good bumper, and he seemed to genuinely like holding the title. I'll give him the nod.



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#5 Posted on
I didn't watch WCW in it's later years, as a result, these won't have any newer ones, except the hardcore, since it only existed 2 years.

World Title: Ric Flair

Yeah.

US Title: Ricky Steamboat

As much as I wanted to go with Austin, because I used to love his work in WCW, he didn't have any great matches during his reign other than with Mero. So we'll go with one of the other WCW greats.

TV Title: Steven Regal

He owned this division for a few years.

Tag Titles: Harlem Heat

How many reigns did they have? 10? Easy choice.

Hardcore Title: Terry Funk

He's the most hardcore wrestler I have seen, I think.

Cruiserwight Title: Jushin "Thunder" Liger

Before the Light Heavyweight title went AWOL, there were some really good matches, especially Liger vs. Pillman at SuperBrawl II. If we are going with post-1996 title it's Chris Jericho.





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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
Harlem Heat marks, keep in mind that the Heat's last three reigns were clearly designed to get them up to 10 as quickly as possible. Reigns 8, 9 and 10 were ultra-short.



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#7 Posted on
Aw, come on. So what if they had 3 short reigns? They had 7 other, longer reigns...



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#8 Posted on
My picks might seem off the wall to some ... but keep in mind, the period of time where I was paying the most attention to the NWA/WCW was from around 1989 to 1993. Being a Randy Savage mark at the time (1989), I got seriously pissed off at the end result of WMV -- and the thought of another Hogan title reign in the WWF made me nauseous. So I tuned into an NWA match in the Chi-Town rumble card that year, featuring Flair vs. Steamboat in the main event. Needless to say, it wasn't hard to see which Fed was more enjoyable. My time with WCW diminished when Hogan was brought into their picture ... and with Hart and Michaels starting to receive big attention in the WWF at the same time, it was an easy decision for me to get back into the WWF.

Best World Champion: Ric Flair. An apparently unanimous pick. Whether you like it, or don't like it; learn to LOVE it. Honorable mention goes to Sting.

Best U.S. Champion: Sting. Honorable mention to Stan Hansen, if for nothing else than for whipping Lex Luger's candy ass for this very title.

Best World Tag Team Champions: Rick and Scott Steiner. This team was PURE GOLD in the late 80's-early 90's. Honorable mention to the Road Warriors, and manager "Precious" Paul Ellering. Ellering was one of my idols, the definition of "cool" to me at that time. I marked out for Paul more than I did the LOD.

Best Television Champion: The Great Muta. Muta and Sting was one of the best and most unique rivalries I've ever seen. Muta's manager, Gary Hart, was a hell of an entertaining guy to watch. Honorable mention to Arn Anderson.

Best Cruiserweight Champion: Rey Misterio, who I enjoyed watching so much more than "The Man of 1000 Ways To Cure Insomnia" Dean Malenko. Honorable mention to Jushin Liger.

I couldn't give half a crap about the Hardcore "Championship", so I'll go with Fat Meng.




"Ohh, do I care? I don't even care. That's OK. It's just a PIECE of what I really wanted from you, Ric Flair. THIS IS WHAT MAKES YOU TICK!! This is what makes you tick ... from the inside out. And, I just took a piece of you. You haven't been beat up properly!! But I'm gonna do that for ya, yeah. This isn't all I want from you, Flair. I want the whoooole Nature Boy. I want the whole Flair package!! You call yourself the Real World Wrestlin' Federation Champion. Well, I guess I am now. And, after what you did to Elizabeth -- I guess you couldn't make me any madder than I was before I went into the ring, but somehow YOU DID IT!!! Made it possible, yeah. Now I'm gonna get the rest of him. Doesn't matter -- in the street, parking lot; doesn't even maaatter to me, yeeah. 'Cause I'll do anything to win. If I didn't PROVE IT, I'll prove it next time ... oooooohhhh yeaaaahhh!!"

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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
I thought having 1000 ways to cure insomnia was supposed to be a good thing, because that would mean one's wrestling was exciting. LOL... But you seem to be using it as an insult in reference to Malenko.



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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    I thought having 1000 ways to cure insomnia was supposed to be a good thing, because that would mean one's wrestling was exciting. LOL... But you seem to be using it as an insult in reference to Malenko.


... It WAS a good thing. I've always been an insomniac, and Malenko was a proven cure. Whenever he showed up on my TV -- I fell right asleep. It was great for those nights where I knew I couldn't afford to sleep the next day at work (haha). Malenko was a better cure for my insomnia than reading "War and Peace".




"Ohh, do I care? I don't even care. That's OK. It's just a PIECE of what I really wanted from you, Ric Flair. THIS IS WHAT MAKES YOU TICK!! This is what makes you tick ... from the inside out. And, I just took a piece of you. You haven't been beat up properly!! But I'm gonna do that for ya, yeah. This isn't all I want from you, Flair. I want the whoooole Nature Boy. I want the whole Flair package!! You call yourself the Real World Wrestlin' Federation Champion. Well, I guess I am now. And, after what you did to Elizabeth -- I guess you couldn't make me any madder than I was before I went into the ring, but somehow YOU DID IT!!! Made it possible, yeah. Now I'm gonna get the rest of him. Doesn't matter -- in the street, parking lot; doesn't even maaatter to me, yeeah. 'Cause I'll do anything to win. If I didn't PROVE IT, I'll prove it next time ... oooooohhhh yeaaaahhh!!"

- Randy Savage, to Gene Okerlund regarding using the tights to beat Ric Flair for the WWF Title at WMVIII
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
Oh. Yeah. Duh.

A wrestler curing insomnia is a bad thing, because you fall asleep during his matches.

Duh. Silly me.



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#12 Posted on
I'm giving separate [in some cases] choices depending on if we're talking about WCW or the NWA.

World Title: Ric Flair, and the choice is the same if you count the NWA years. Not picking Sting because he was always better when he was chasing the belt. With Flair, it's the opposite.

Tag Team titles: Either the Steiners or Tully and Arn. The NWA period is a lot harder to pick than if you're just counting WCW--there were so many great teams. I'm not picking the Road Warriors because ironically they weren't the world champs during their best period. If you went way back and gave an award for the National Tag Team Titles they'd win hands-down. I liked Doom a whole lot for this too.

US Champion: Rick Rude/Mangum T.A. I don't think that WCW ever really managed to succeed with the US title the way the WWF did with the I-C belt, or the way the NWA did with the title way back when. Rude gets the nod because he held the belt for so long. Magnum T.A. was the perfect US champion during the eighties--a face counterpart to Flair.


World Television Title: Arn Anderson. This was his title, in the same way the World title was Flair's. But Steve Austin gets a second place vote.

Cruiserweight: Chris Jericho.

I wasn't watching WCW when they started the Hardcore Championshp, so I'll leave that one blank.




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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.09
World Title: Ric Flair, Runner Up: Tie between Russo and Arquette

U.S. Title: Steve Austin, Runner Up: David Flair

Tag Team: Outsiders, Runner Up: Rick Steiner & Judy Bagwell

TV Title: Booker T, Runner Up: None

CW Title: Chris Jericho, Runner Up: Tie between Oklahoma and Madusa
You know, Jericho may have goneo n fron CW champ to WWF world champ, but he had to jump promotions to do it. If he had stayed in WCW, does anyone think he would be anywhere even remotely close to the level he is at today? Remember, once a cruiserweight/light-heavyweight, always one, unless you jump ship to go elsewhere.

Hardcore Title: Norman Smiley, Runner Up: Eric Bischoff

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#14 Posted on
I'll spare some of the justifications since most have already been named.

World title- Ronnie Garvin
Ha, just kidding. Ric Flair, of course.

U.S. title- Ravishing Rick Rude


TV title- Lord Steven Regal

Tag titles- Steiners

Cruiserweight- Rey Misterio
I would have gone with Jericho, but Misterio has more of that CW feel to me

Hardcore- Terry Funk

U.S. tag titles- Midnight Express
I can't believe these titles were left out by you guys! They had a better run than the Hardcore title. But honestly, I can't remember any other champs besides Pillman/Z-Man, a short reign by the Strieners and the ...Patriots: Firebreaker Chip and Todd Champion!

Six Man tag title- Ok, so these were the most useless titles ever. I actually remember them trying to revive these in the early 90s, but can't remember any specific champions. I think the York Foundation (Thomas Rich, Terrance Taylor and Richard Morton) may have held them. Besides that I seem to remember hearign that the Road Warriors and Dusty held them in the 80s, so I'll go with them.

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#15 Posted on
Pre-Invasion:

World Title: Ric Flair

International Title: Flair, again

US Title: Sting

World Tag Team: Midnight Express (Stan Lane & Bobby Eaton)

TV Title: Booker T

Cruserweight Title: Chris Jericho

Hardcore Title: Norman Smiley

US Tag Team Titles: The Freebirds (Michael "P.S." Hayes & Jimmy "Jam" Garven)

Six-Man Tag Titles: The Freebirds (Michael "P.S." Hayes, Jimmy "Jam" Garven, & Brad "Badstreet" Armstrong)

Cruserweight Tag Title: Rey Mysterio, jr & Billy Kidman

--------------------------------------------------------

POST-Invastion

World Title: Booker T

US Title: Booker T, again

Tag Title: Booker T(Again!) & Test

Cruserweight: Tajiri


Does anyone remember the ill-fated WCW Women's Title? I kinow there was a tournament for it, then nothing. Did they EVER finish that tournament?





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#16 Posted on
Okay,
I can't argue with Ric Flair as best *anything involving wrestling* ever, and I'm not saying he was better (because he wasn't, not by a long shot), by why does Goldberg never really seem to get any respect? It's not like he was INCREDABLY over in 98-99. If they hadn't shat on his booking, he and wCw would probably still be around now. He could carry a promotion. You may not like him, he may only have 3 moves in the ring, but he was still one of the most sellable wrestlers ever, and that's saying something.



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#17 Posted on
My turn

Champ: Flair

U.S. I don't care how he's perceived now, the best U.S. champ of all time is Lex Luger.

Tag Champs: It's sad when only one person named the Midnights as the best tag champs and only one person named AA as the best TV champ.

TV: Arn Anderson made that belt

Cruiserweight: Flyin Brian!! Cmon people!






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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00

    Originally posted by Saruman
    why does Goldberg never really seem to get any respect?
Remember that thread you started about Billy Gunn? Your answer is in there.



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#19 Posted on
I can't believe I will be saying this, since I am a huge mark for Ric Flair, but Ric was a much better NWA champ than WCW champ. By the time WCW made the switch from the NWA, Ric was already heading downhill. If we talk about NWA/WCW champs, then Ric is da man. If it's only WCW, I gotta go with Sting.

US Champ: Barry Windham, nod to Steve Austin and Rick Rude.
TV Champ: Steve Austin, nods to Arn Anderson and Chris Benoit.
Tag Team Champs: If it's just WCW, I go with Harlem Heat. If it's NWA/WCW, its a toss-up between The Road Warriors and The Steiners.
Cruiserweight: Jushin Liger. I loved Chris Jericho's runs with the belts as well.
Hardcore Title: Terry Funk
Cruiser Tag: Skipper and Kid Romeo.



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#20 Posted on
World: Flair
US: Steamboat
Tag: Road Warriors

US TAG CHAMPS
Come on guys, this was an important title

Midnight express Owned it.


TV Title: Double A
Cruiser: Jericho

Hardcore: None
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