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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
Now they're official:

Fiesta Bowl- Boise St.-Oklahoma
Sugar Bowl- LSU-Notre Dame
Rose Bowl- Michigan-USC
Orange Bowl- Wake Forest-Louisville

National Championship Game- Ohio St.- Florida

For the record, as the coaches make their final top-25 polls of the season public, Ohio St. coach Jim Tressel abstained from voting.

And pity the LSU fans who basically snapped up every university-sponsored travel package to the Rose Bowl, where they were probably going to face Michigan (or USC) before UCLA ruined those plans.



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Well I'm sure the LSU fans can sell those tickets pretty easily. Plus they're now playing in New Orleans. Uh oh. Watch out Irish.



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Tressel abstaining may be a bigger story than anyone might know, since the computers scored Michigan and Florida dead even and Florida made the National Title game by less than a percentage point.


    Ultimately, it was the human component of the BCS formula that determined that Florida (12-1) would make for a more worthy opponent for undefeated and undisputed No. 1 Ohio State. The computers awarded the Gators and Wolverines identical scores of .940. But Florida passed Michigan to finish No. 2 in both the Harris and coaches polls, providing the narrow .011 margin in the standings.


Question: Would Tressel voting in Michigan have ultimately tipped the scales?



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.65
    Originally posted by It's False
    Tressel abstaining may be a bigger story than anyone might know, since the computers scored Michigan and Florida dead even and Florida made the National Title game by less than a percentage point.


      Ultimately, it was the human component of the BCS formula that determined that Florida (12-1) would make for a more worthy opponent for undefeated and undisputed No. 1 Ohio State. The computers awarded the Gators and Wolverines identical scores of .940. But Florida passed Michigan to finish No. 2 in both the Harris and coaches polls, providing the narrow .011 margin in the standings.


    Question: Would Tressel voting in Michigan have ultimately tipped the scales?


I don't think so. Florida finished 26 points ahead of Michigan in the final coaches poll. A first place vote is worth 25 points and on down the line. Remember too, the final coaches poll votes are made public, so if it had come out that Tressel was trying to manipulate the votes (like voting Michigan #1 and leaving Florida off the ballot entirely or something like that), it really couldn't be hidden.

USA Today, who helps run the poll, has said that Tressel abstaining may affect his status for next season, as far as being one of the coaches who fills out the poll.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Well I'm sure the LSU fans can sell those tickets pretty easily. Plus they're now playing in New Orleans. Uh oh. Watch out Irish.

Yeah, I feel bad for Notre Dame now. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like they're going to be toast.

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by Quezzy
      Well I'm sure the LSU fans can sell those tickets pretty easily. Plus they're now playing in New Orleans. Uh oh. Watch out Irish.

    Yeah, I feel bad for Notre Dame now. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like they're going to be toast.

    - StingArmy


Hmmmm, their own personal tv deal, special consideration making it easier to be a BCS team, extra coverage from every mag and network because they are who they are even in years they suck....yeah nope. Not feeling very sorry for Notre Dame at all. :)
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.78
    Originally posted by StingArmy
      Originally posted by Quezzy
      Well I'm sure the LSU fans can sell those tickets pretty easily. Plus they're now playing in New Orleans. Uh oh. Watch out Irish.

    Yeah, I feel bad for Notre Dame now. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like they're going to be toast.

    - StingArmy





I welcome the challenge for Notre Dame. Let the Bayou Bengals break out the purple jerseys and let the crowd go nuts. LSU is a hell of a team, but their offense is inconsistent against non-directional schools. I think the Notre Dame offensive weapons have one monster game left inside them.
Urban Meyer is actually going to force me to root for Ohio State. I didn't think anything other than Alabama or Miami could force me to do that.
Will USC perform an exorcism of the Rose Bowl prior to their match-up with Michigan. Now, does Michigan come out pissed and try to stake a disputed claim to #1 with a monster win, or do they wallow in self-pity and get blown out of the building.
Bowl Schedule and personal interest, if any, in these games:

Dec 19th Poinsetta Bowl: Northern Illinois vs. TCU: Very little interest except for first college game in a few weeks.

Dec 21st Las Vegas Bowl: Oregon vs. BYU: Mild interest, probably will be a high scoring game.

Dec 22nd New Orleans Bowl: Rice vs. Troy: Except for it maybe being the only time in my lifetime that Rice goes to a bowl, no interest.

Dec 23rd Birmingham Bowl: South Florida vs. East Carolina: If South Florida wants to enter the conversation with the other 3 Florida schools, they better win this game. Very little interest.

Dec 23rd New Mexico Bowl: New Mexico vs. San Jose State: There is a New Mexico Bowl?

Dec 23rd Armed Services Bowl: Utah vs. Tulsa: No.

Dec 24th Degenerate Gambler Hawaii Bowl: Arizona State vs. Hawaii: Game will return to its former glory next year when there is no NFL on X-Mas Eve. Still, it is either this or dealing with family, so, let the Degenerate Gambler Bowl Commence. High level of interest.

Dec 26th Motor City Bowl: Central Michigan vs. Middle Tennessee State: 2 directional teams in this bowl. That is all.

Dec 27th Emerald Bowl: UCLA vs. Florida State: Unusual match-up. Will give the game a shot but will bail quickly on it if it is a Jeff Bowden Special.

Dec 28th Independence Bowl: Alabama vs. Oklahoma State: Didn't think Alabama was going to accept a bowl bid. Can't even pretend to care about a match-up of 6-6 teams.

Dec 28th Holiday Bowl: Texas A@M vs. California: The option vs. the pro style offense. Contrast of styles. It's the Holiday Bowl, generally an exciting game. High level of interest, should Cal decide to actually show up.

Dec 28th Texas Bowl: Rutgers vs. Kansas State: Banished to the NFL Network opposite the Holiday Bowl. Zero interest.

Dec 29th Music City Bowl: Clemson vs. Kentucky: If Clemson had a kicker, they would be in a good bowl game. Very little interest.

Dec 29th Sun Bowl: Oregon State vs. Missouri: Generally a dull game, however was a shootout last year between UCLA and Northwestern. No feel on this game. Slight interest.

Dec 29th Liberty Bowl: South Carolina vs. Houston: Spurrier wouldn't take the Alabama or Miami job so he could go to the Liberty Bowl? Very minor interest.

Dec 29th Insight Bowl: Texas Tech vs. Minnesota: Tech might win by 50. Unwatchable.

Dec 29th Champs Sports Bowl: Purdue vs. Maryland: If you take the DU from Purdue and doubled the L in Maryland, you would get an apt description of this game. Next.

Dec 30th Meineke Bowl: Navy vs. Boston College: Since BC is in this bowl, it needs to take its proper title: The Who Gives a Shit Bowl. Charlotte 2 years ago, Boise last year, Charlotte again this year. Hopefully BC goes back to Boise next year. As for Navy, hopefully they have one of those quarter long drives they had in the Emerald Bowl a few years ago. Only interesting if BC is losing.

Dec 30th Alamo Bowl: Texas vs. Iowa: From the national title chase to the Alamo Bowl in 2 close losses. How the mighty have fallen. If the game was outside the state of Texas, I'd think Texas would no-show. In Texas, they'll destroy Iowa. Little interest.

Dec 30th Peach Bowl(I don't care what the sponsor calls it, it is the Peach Bowl): Georgia vs. Virginia Tech: Both teams struggled in mid-season and played well down the stretch. Should be a nice game.

Dec 31st MPC Computers Bowl: Miami vs. Nevada: Watchable to see Miami playing on the blue turf on New Years Eve and seeing whether they no-show a bowl for the second straight year.

Jan 1st Outback Bowl: Tennessee vs. Penn State: Should be a good game to begin New Years Day. Highly watchable.

Jan 1st Cotton Bowl: Auburn vs. Nebraska: If it was Auburn/Texas it would be a very good game. Seeing how senile Pat Summerall is could be entertaining. Mildly watchable.

Jan 1st Gator Bowl: Georgia Tech vs. West Virginia: I can't watch a game QB'd by Reggie Ball again. Not watchable due to the Georgia Tech QB.

Jan 1st Capital One Bowl: Wisconsin vs. Arkansas: The Arkansas speed vs. the Wisconsin brawn. Interesting match-up, unless you are a fan of the forward pass. Should be a nice game.

Jan 1st Rose Bowl: USC vs. Michigan: Should be a great game. Must watch.

Jan 1st Fiesta Bowl: Boise State vs. Oklahoma: Since it is on a different network from the Rose Bowl, it should be in the 2nd quarter by the time the Rose Bowl ends. I'll give Boise a chance to prove they belong, plus RAW should suck that night. Will watch until Oklahoma goes up 2 scores.

Jan 2nd Orange Bowl: Louisville vs. Wake Forest: Interesting for the Wake Forest novelty. That novelty will last until Louisville goes up 2 scores on their way to a 5 touchdown win.

Jan 3rd Sugar Bowl: Notre Dame vs. LSU: Discussed earlier, will watch more intently than the National Title Game.

Jan 6th International Bowl: Western Michigan vs. Cincinnati: Would not watch if paid to watch.

Jan 7th GMAC Bowl: Ohio vs. Southern Miss: Does Favre have any eligibility left? If not, see International Bowl.

Jan 8th BCS Title Game: Florida vs. Ohio State: Should be a very good game. Possibly an all-time classic. Either that or Ohio State does to Florida what Nebraska did to them 11 years ago. Must watch.


It is still a hollow year without the XMAS tradition of Gary Bender calling the Blue-Gray game without its weird and wacky scoring rules.

(edited by redsoxnation on 3.12.06 2254)
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My one wish is that Rutgers would have beaten West Virginia so we could have had an awesome "Battle of Underdogs" between Wake & Rutgers in the Orange.

Otherwise, I think the BCS nailed it perfectly this year.

    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Yeah, I feel bad for Notre Dame now. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like they're going to be toast.

Well, everyone said the same thing about West Virginia having to play Georgia in Atlanta last year, and look what happened there. You never know.

(edited by Texas Kelly on 3.12.06 2310)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    My one wish is that Rutgers would have beaten West Virginia so we could have had an awesome "Battle of Underdogs" between Wake & Rutgers in the Orange.

    Otherwise, I think the BCS nailed it perfectly this year.

      Originally posted by StingArmy
      Yeah, I feel bad for Notre Dame now. I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like they're going to be toast.

    Well, everyone said the same thing about West Virginia having to play Georgia in Atlanta last year, and look what happened there. You never know.

    (edited by Texas Kelly on 3.12.06 2310)


Difference being Georgia had zero desire to play that game last year. I don't see Notre Dame being that lucky here.

Though honestly I don't see that game as a blowout anyway. I think ND matches up with LSU better than they did USC and Michigan. Not great, but I think they can hang with them.

As for the title game, I kinda hope ...and this is killing me....that Leak has a killer game and they pull the upset. Just to make Gator fans realize how god damned retarded they've been bashing a great QB all these years now that he's leaving.

Oh and put me in the Michigan pity party group, as I see them getting bashed hard for some reason in that bowl game.

(edited by wmatistic on 3.12.06 2026)
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.40
    Originally posted by kwik
      Originally posted by It's False
      Tressel abstaining may be a bigger story than anyone might know, since the computers scored Michigan and Florida dead even and Florida made the National Title game by less than a percentage point.


        Ultimately, it was the human component of the BCS formula that determined that Florida (12-1) would make for a more worthy opponent for undefeated and undisputed No. 1 Ohio State. The computers awarded the Gators and Wolverines identical scores of .940. But Florida passed Michigan to finish No. 2 in both the Harris and coaches polls, providing the narrow .011 margin in the standings.


      Question: Would Tressel voting in Michigan have ultimately tipped the scales?


    I don't think so. Florida finished 26 points ahead of Michigan in the final coaches poll. A first place vote is worth 25 points and on down the line. Remember too, the final coaches poll votes are made public, so if it had come out that Tressel was trying to manipulate the votes (like voting Michigan #1 and leaving Florida off the ballot entirely or something like that), it really couldn't be hidden.

    USA Today, who helps run the poll, has said that Tressel abstaining may affect his status for next season, as far as being one of the coaches who fills out the poll.


I just did a quick calculation, and had Tressel voted Michigan #2 and Florida #3, it would make no difference. So I calculated again leaving Florida out of the poll, and it STILL doesn't make a difference. Florida would have held a two point margin in the coach's poll, and with the tie in the computers, the Harris poll would still make Florida the winner. The only way Michigan could go to the championship game based on the Tressel vote would if he had actually voted them #1 and left Florida out of the poll. Needless to say, that wouldn't have looked good at all.

(edited by ges7184 on 3.12.06 2237)


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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.05
Tressel made a smart political move. If he votes for Michigan, then a significant portion of his own fans are pissed for giving the hated Wolverines a rematch. If he votes for Florida, then a significant portion of his own fans are pissed for passing up another chance to possibly beat Michigan (on the biggest stage possible).

Quick picks on the big bowls.....Oklahoma over Boise State, LSU over Notre Dame in a rout, Louisville in a rout, Michigan over USC, and Florida over Ohio State. I'll take a battle-tested SEC team over an OSU squad that had fewer really tough games.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Tressel made a smart political move. If he votes for Michigan, then a significant portion of his own fans are pissed for giving the hated Wolverines a rematch. If he votes for Florida, then a significant portion of his own fans are pissed for passing up another chance to possibly beat Michigan (on the biggest stage possible).

    Quick picks on the big bowls.....Oklahoma over Boise State, LSU over Notre Dame in a rout, Louisville in a rout, Michigan over USC, and Florida over Ohio State. I'll take a battle-tested SEC team over an OSU squad that had fewer really tough games.


While I'm leaning toward Louisville whipping up like everyone else, I must say I'm hesitant. Wake can play some D for sure and we've seen what a good D can do to Louisville. I'll have to think about it some more.
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.04
Bring it on!!!

Predictions:
OU over Boise State
LSU over ND
Louisville over Wake Forest
scUM over USC

and The Ohio State University over Florida big. I like both coaches, but OSU has too much talent. The only thing that makes me nervous is I feel like OSU is in the same position as Miami (FL) was in '02. However, I don't think that Florida's D will be able to slow down the OSU offense enough to keep it close.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.78
    Originally posted by wmatistic
      Originally posted by Big Bad
      Tressel made a smart political move. If he votes for Michigan, then a significant portion of his own fans are pissed for giving the hated Wolverines a rematch. If he votes for Florida, then a significant portion of his own fans are pissed for passing up another chance to possibly beat Michigan (on the biggest stage possible).

      Quick picks on the big bowls.....Oklahoma over Boise State, LSU over Notre Dame in a rout, Louisville in a rout, Michigan over USC, and Florida over Ohio State. I'll take a battle-tested SEC team over an OSU squad that had fewer really tough games.


    While I'm leaning toward Louisville whipping up like everyone else, I must say I'm hesitant. Wake can play some D for sure and we've seen what a good D can do to Louisville. I'll have to think about it some more.




I don't see any middle ground in the Louisville/Wake Forest game. It is either a 13-10 defensive scrum or it is 45-6 Louisville. I can't see Wake losing a 27-17 type game because their offense is bad, and, once they fall behind and have to start throwing and having 3 and out drives, the game will break quickly. I have a feeling Wake experiences the jitters early in the game, falls behind, and the avalanche occurs on them.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by whatever
    Bring it on!!!

    Predictions:
    OU over Boise State
    LSU over ND
    Louisville over Wake Forest
    scUM over USC

    and The Ohio State University over Florida big. I like both coaches, but OSU has too much talent. The only thing that makes me nervous is I feel like OSU is in the same position as Miami (FL) was in '02. However, I don't think that Florida's D will be able to slow down the OSU offense enough to keep it close.


I think you're being a bit of a homer if you expect a blowout in the OSU vs Florida game. Yeah Ohio State has a lot of talent, but in case you didn't notice so does Florida. They have just as much talent, although they aren't as experienced overall I would say.

I think Ohio State will win, but I don't think this will be a boring game by any means. Be interesting to see what Urban comes up with for the Buckeyes, mostly in terms of how he uses the QB's.

And I agree with you redsox that it will either be a Louisville blowout or a very close low scoring game. I'm just not sure which still.

Also if anyone is bored enough, which two teams would have been left out if they hadn't gone to the extra game this year? Quick guess would be Boise and LSU but I'm not sure.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.25
    Originally posted by wmatistic
      Originally posted by whatever
      Bring it on!!!

      Predictions:
      OU over Boise State
      LSU over ND
      Louisville over Wake Forest
      scUM over USC

      and The Ohio State University over Florida big. I like both coaches, but OSU has too much talent. The only thing that makes me nervous is I feel like OSU is in the same position as Miami (FL) was in '02. However, I don't think that Florida's D will be able to slow down the OSU offense enough to keep it close.


    I think you're being a bit of a homer if you expect a blowout in the OSU vs Florida game. Yeah Ohio State has a lot of talent, but in case you didn't notice so does Florida. They have just as much talent, although they aren't as experienced overall I would say.

    I think Ohio State will win, but I don't think this will be a boring game by any means. Be interesting to see what Urban comes up with for the Buckeyes, mostly in terms of how he uses the QB's.

    And I agree with you redsox that it will either be a Louisville blowout or a very close low scoring game. I'm just not sure which still.

    Also if anyone is bored enough, which two teams would have been left out if they hadn't gone to the extra game this year? Quick guess would be Boise and LSU but I'm not sure.


While I do think Florida was the best choice to face OSU, I don't think the Florida offense will be able to do much against the Bucks defense. The only way the Gators win this game is if they force several turnovers on defense, and I just don't see Tryo Smith allowing that to happen. I say the game is close at the half, with Ohio State pulling away after that. But it's still a month away.

My early guesses at the other games have Oklahoma, LSU and Louisville all winning big and USC beating Michigan in the only BCS game I'm expecting to be really close.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.52
    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    Otherwise, I think the BCS nailed it perfectly this year.


Really? I think it's a huge load of crap, and I don't even like Michigan OR Florida, and I'd really rather see Ohio State/USC, were is SHOULD be, in the Rose Bowl, even though USC lost to UCLA. (<-- Pac-10 homer talking, I admit it.)

The BS the voters pulled on this is RIDICULOUS. USC was the #2 team in the country before they lost to UCLA, now they are ranked #7 in both polls, BEHIND two-loss LSU. That is COMPLETELY typical when a ranked team loses, right? Well, Michigan just lost, but they were still ranked, by people, as the #2 team in the country, because the voters were making a statement: "We think Michigan is the best one-loss team in the country." Fine. Then USC beat Notre Dame and vaulted above Michigan. WHAT?! Notre Dame has a fine record, but they probably aren't as good as Wisconsin, who Michigan beat, and Michigan's loss to Ohio State is still "better" than USC's loss to Oregon State, right?

But, USC loses to fall from #2, and Florida wins, and FLORIDA is suddenly #2? Seriously? All the voters did is manipulate this thing, and it's pathetic, because based on how the polls look TODAY, they should've looked like THIS on 11/20.

1. Ohio State (12-0)
2. USC (9-1)
3. Florida (10-1)
4. Mchigan (11-1)

Right? And would anyone really have thought twice about it if that had been the case? I'd guess "no".

IF that had happened, then we wouldn't have had to listen to all the silly talk about a rematch that APPARENTLY not enough people wanted to see, and who was "deserving" and all that. But, the FACT is if the voters would've acted like they've acted for DOZENS of years, they would've have dropped Michigan to #4 (like they dropped USC to #7) and we wouldn't really have had any kind of controversy at all, and people like Jim Walden voting Florida #1 (NUMBER ONE!) in the Harris poll while others voted them as low as #5 to try and sway things. People suck, S-U-C-K, at making these kind of decisions, which is why this should all be settled ON THE FIELD.



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.57
Ohio State: 417 yards per game against some decent teams
Florida: 410 yards per game against by far the best defensive conference

I don't see how Florida's offense is any worse than Ohio State's. If they play in the Big Ten they have better offensive numbers than Ohio State easily.

As for Florida's defense stopping Ohio State's offense? Well Arkansas, LSU, and Tennessee's offenses would all have just as good numbers if they played in the Big Ten but if it wasn't for a bad half quarter by Leak the Gators would've held all three to 20 points or less. Hell, the Gators one loss against Auburn they didn't even give up a touchdown, they only gave up field goals.



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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.08
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
      Originally posted by Texas Kelly
      Otherwise, I think the BCS nailed it perfectly this year.


    Really? I think it's a huge load of crap, and I don't even like Michigan OR Florida, and I'd really rather see Ohio State/USC, were is SHOULD be, in the Rose Bowl, even though USC lost to UCLA. (<-- Pac-10 homer talking, I admit it.)

    The BS the voters pulled on this is RIDICULOUS. USC was the #2 team in the country before they lost to UCLA, now they are ranked #7 in both polls, BEHIND two-loss LSU. That is COMPLETELY typical when a ranked team loses, right? Well, Michigan just lost, but they were still ranked, by people, as the #2 team in the country, because the voters were making a statement: "We think Michigan is the best one-loss team in the country." Fine. Then USC beat Notre Dame and vaulted above Michigan. WHAT?! Notre Dame has a fine record, but they probably aren't as good as Wisconsin, who Michigan beat, and Michigan's loss to Ohio State is still "better" than USC's loss to Oregon State, right?

    But, USC loses to fall from #2, and Florida wins, and FLORIDA is suddenly #2? Seriously? All the voters did is manipulate this thing, and it's pathetic, because based on how the polls look TODAY, they should've looked like THIS on 11/20.

    1. Ohio State (12-0)
    2. USC (9-1)
    3. Florida (10-1)
    4. Mchigan (11-1)

    Right? And would anyone really have thought twice about it if that had been the case? I'd guess "no".

    IF that had happened, then we wouldn't have had to listen to all the silly talk about a rematch that APPARENTLY not enough people wanted to see, and who was "deserving" and all that. But, the FACT is if the voters would've acted like they've acted for DOZENS of years, they would've have dropped Michigan to #4 (like they dropped USC to #7) and we wouldn't really have had any kind of controversy at all, and people like Jim Walden voting Florida #1 (NUMBER ONE!) in the Harris poll while others voted them as low as #5 to try and sway things. People suck, S-U-C-K, at making these kind of decisions, which is why this should all be settled ON THE FIELD.


rant, rant, rant, rant. blah blah blah. Hey, maybe if you keep posting these rants time and time again they'll change everything to be the way you want it?

Or maybe you should come back from fantasy land and try to enjoy what we have! I just don't get why you waste so much time and energy on something that is clearly not going to be changed. You do get that right? That no matter how much you bitch, it makes zero difference and just looks like you repeating yourself with zero end game or point, right?

Not to mention, it was decided on the field. Michigan lost to Ohio State, USC was upset by UCLA so now Florida gets the shot. I don't care about poll voters and how they came up with the proper matchup in the end or what their votes looked like three weeks ago. They got it right, and it was because of what happened on the field(michigan losing, remember? Florida beating Arkansas? Hello?)
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    rant, rant, rant, rant. blah blah blah. Hey, maybe if you keep posting these rants time and time again they'll change everything to be the way you want it?

    Or maybe you should come back from fantasy land and try to enjoy what we have! I just don't get why you waste so much time and energy on something that is clearly not going to be changed. You do get that right? That no matter how much you bitch, it makes zero difference and just looks like you repeating yourself with zero end game or point, right?

    Not to mention, it was decided on the field. Michigan lost to Ohio State, USC was upset by UCLA so now Florida gets the shot. I don't care about poll voters and how they came up with the proper matchup in the end or what their votes looked like three weeks ago. They got it right, and it was because of what happened on the field(michigan losing, remember? Florida beating Arkansas? Hello?)


Sorry, Mr. High 'n Mighty. Let me dumb this down for you, since you seemed to infer a bunch of stuff that wasn't there, based on past discussions we've had.

On the 18th, Michigan LOST. The voters on the 19th said Michigan was still better than Florida.

On the 25th, Michigan didn't play, and Florida WON. The voters on the 26th said Michigan was still better than Florida.

On the 2nd, Michigan didn't play, and Florida won. The voters on the 3rd decided, hey NOW they think Florida is better?

What. The. Fuck.

*ALL* I said was if they had acted like they usually do, the voters would've put Michigan behind Florida right after they lost to OSU. No one would've questioned it if they did. Instead, they said Michigan was BETTER than Florida until the chips were down and it was time to make the title game, and they changed their minds.

If that's how they are going to be about it, they ought to just not vote until the very end of the season, so this kind of shaky-looking flip-flopping doesn't occur. Why should I take any poll seriously when this kind of stuff happens? Did they just assume USC was going to win out and not cause this question to happen?

It's no secret that I'd much rather see a playoff, I know, but I'm not talking about that right now. I'm SPECIFICALLY talking about the voters' integrity or judgment or both being highly questionable, OK? If you are going to try and defend how this played out, don't come at me with some weak-assed "that's how it is can't you just enjoy it"-BS. Just because it's how it IS, doesn't means it's RIGHT or even GOOD.

The TRUTH is there isn't really any way to differentiate between Florida and Michigan that justifies this flip-flop in voting. The BEST reason I've heard for Florida getting the nod over Michigan is that Michigan didn't win their conference. Well, guess what, they weren't going to win it no matter what, once they lost to OSU, so why were they the #2 in the country after they lost?

The bottom line is that this would be a lot easier for me to take if (1) the computers had made them switch or (2) they had simply voted Florida ahead of Michigan after the OSU game, which they would have done 99% of the rest of the time.



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